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    So, today was the longest shot ever in once, consisting in:

    1. 150 mg T Prop
    2. 100 mg NPP
    3. 100 mg DP
    4. 400 mg EQ

    5.5 cc into my right tight and so far I feel fine.

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    The ankles bloat from Hyper starts to worry me because it did not decrease even lowering the dose from 10 to 5 iu ed.

    Not even taking exemestane I have noticed any improvement like heppened before with Hyge and they also hurt!

    If, by tomorrow morning the situation has not changed, I will use furosemide @ 100 mg ed (2x) for a couple of days.

    I do not like it much, I mean this version of rHGH, so I hope for a quick bw response to confirm my happenings.

    Might that have something to do with rHuEPO?
    I would love to know the answer...

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    Since I am not using rHGH, 2 days so far (Hypertropin), I have less bloat and lost 2 lbs of water.

    Today, day 4, I shot 500 mcg of Cobalamin a couple of hours before the work out (IM).

    Also, I decided to take furosemide on the week-end.
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    Considering Mesterolone vs Drostanolone Propionate at the same dosage (100 mg ed), the second one is much stronger, at least for me.
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    Wow. This is the most detailed cycle log ive ever seen. Interested to see your end results. Scribed

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    Post Week 1

    DAY -6

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 50 mg - NPP 50 mg - T4 150 mcg
    KCAL: 3.237
    MACROS (g): Protides 284, Lipides 86, Glucides 323
    TRAINING: Chest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
    SIDES: Head Cutes Ache, Light Headache
    INJECTION SITES: L Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (29g ½")
    BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 124 (mmHg), DIA 51 (mmHg), BPM 81

    DAY -5

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 1000 iu - Test SP 80 mg - NPP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.358
    MACROS (g): Protides 389, Lipides 54, Glucides 329
    TRAINING: Biceps, Forearms & ABS
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
    SIDES: Tiredness, Head Cutes Ache
    INJECTION SITES: R Delt (23g 1¼"), R Glut (22g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")

    DAY -4

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test SP 80 mg - Test P 70 mg - NPP 70 mg - EQ 300 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.499
    MACROS (g): Protides 350, Lipides 80, Glucides 327
    TRAINING: Shoulders & Triceps
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Diazepam (20 mg)
    SIDES: Tiredness
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Tummy (27g 1")

    DAY -3

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 3000 iu - Test SP 100 mg - Test P 80 mg - NPP 80 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.390
    MACROS (g): Protides 324, Lipides 78, Glucides 331
    TRAINING: Cardio 20'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Ketoprofen (5 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
    SIDES: Tiredness, Musclular Pain (R, Shoulder & Dorsal)
    INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")

    DAY -2

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 3000 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 90 mg - NPP 90 mg - EQ 340 mg - DP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.201
    MACROS (g): Protides 310, Lipides 85, Glucides 287
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Paracetamol (1 g), Nimesulide (100 mg), Ketoprofen (5 g)
    SIDES: Tiredness, Musclular Pain (R, Shoulder & Dorsal)
    INJECTION SITES: L Chest (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1"), Oblique (27g 1")

    DAY -1

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 100 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 80 mg - Mes 50 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.113
    MACROS (g): Protides 243, Lipides 125, Glucides 245
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
    SIDES: Musclular Pain (R Dorsal)
    INJECTION SITES: R Chest (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½")

    Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 317
    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.300

    -1 WEEK NOTES
    When injecting a water based compound with an oil based drug, it is best to draw first the water and then the oil, otherwise in the opposite case, the water drug will mix instantly, due to its less weight, with the oil compound already drew into the syringe, and it will be difficult to figure out how much of a water compound one has drawn from the vial.

    Today (day -4), I started to feel the tiredness I used to cope with in my previous cycle due to test suspension. It is not easy, with this compound, to setup proper time of injections in order to keep the blood levels as steady as possible. Also, the muscular pain associated to the injections begin to bug me and I want to push as much as possible in this burst cycle. I thought NPP could have helped me with this issue but I just do not want to wait and in case be disappointed. So, I decided to keep using test suspension till the first day of the first week as a front load and to add from today test propionate @ 70 mg ed to raise it to 150 mg ed once the test susp has gone.
    Though, I will keep using test suspension 30' before any leg work-out @ 50 mg.

    DAY 1

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 50 mcg - T3 25 mcg - EXE 12.5 mg - CAB 0.25 mg - HCG 300 iu
    KCAL: 3.180
    MACROS (g): Protides 390, Lipides 80, Glucides 225
    TRAINING: Biceps & Shoulders, Cardio 15'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Nimesulide (100 mg)
    SIDES: Muscular Pain (R Quadriceps)
    INJECTION SITES: R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1"), Oblique (29g ½")
    BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 116 (mmHg), DIA 44 (mmHg), BPM 86
    BLOOD WORK & PRESSURE: 1st Burst Cycle Blood Work

    DAY 2

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg - T3 25 mcg
    KCAL: 3.534
    MACROS (g): Protides 391, Lipides 90, Glucides 290
    TRAINING: Dorsal, Cardio 10'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
    SIDES: Severe Bloat (Ankles)
    INJECTION SITES: R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")

    DAY 3

    AAS: rHuEPO 4000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.406
    MACROS (g): Protides 366, Lipides 98, Glucides 265
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Ketoprofen (10 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
    SIDES: Bloat (Ankles)
    INJECTION SITES: L Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (27g 1")

    DAY 4

    AAS: rHuEPO 4000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - EXE 25 mg - HCG 300 iu - B12 500 mcg
    KCAL: 4.060
    MACROS (g): Protides 389, Lipides 116, Glucides 365
    TRAINING: Biceps & Triceps, Cardio 20'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
    SIDES: Bloat (Ankles), Diarrhoea
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Glut (23g 1¼"), Oblique (27g 1"), R Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (29g ½")

    DAY 5

    AAS: rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 4.176
    MACROS (g): Protides 434, Lipides 100, Glucides 385
    TRAINING: Dorsal, Cardio 20'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Neomycin (50000 iu), Bacitracin (5000 iu), Loperamide (6 mg)
    SIDES: Diarrhoea
    INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), Tummy (27g 1")

    DAY 6

    AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 150 mg - MES 100 mg
    KCAL: 4.768
    MACROS (g): Protides 267, Lipides 204, Glucides 466
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼")

    DAY 7

    AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
    KCAL: 4.114
    MACROS (g): Protides 344, Lipides 158, Glucides 329
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: R Quad (23g 1¼")

    Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 369
    Cycle Average Protides Intake (g): 343

    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.891
    Cycle Average KCalories Intake: 3.595

    TOTAL INJECTIONS: 41
    Trapezius:
    Deltoids: 4
    Pectorals: 2
    Dorsal: 2
    Biceps:
    Triceps:
    Forearms:
    Gluteus: 6
    Quadriceps: 4
    Femoral Biceps:
    Calfs:
    Tummy: 4
    Oblique: 16
    Lost Attempts: 3

    1st WEEK NOTES
    Since I am not using rHGH, 2 days so far (Hypertropin), I have less bloat and lost 2 lbs of water.

    Today, day 4, I shot 500 mcg of Cobalamin a couple of hours before the work out (IM). It gave me diarrhoea.

    At day 6, the bloat is finally gone. I lost 5 pounds of water.

    Considering Mesterolone vs Drostanolone Propionate at the same dosage (100 mg ed), the second one is much stronger.
    Last edited by BJJ; 09-01-2010 at 08:12 AM.

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    Well thought out BJJ, nice work. will you be posting any pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Considering Mesterolone vs Drostanolone Propionate at the same dosage (100 mg ed), the second one is much stronger, at least for me.
    Thanks for the info. I always suspected this but had no other data than my own opinion. Keep up the log BJJ.

    Have you felt the NPP yet btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous dan View Post
    Well thought out BJJ, nice work. will you be posting any pictures?
    Yes I will.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aizen Sosuke View Post
    Thanks for the info. I always suspected this but had no other data than my own opinion. Keep up the log BJJ.

    Have you felt the NPP yet btw?
    I would say no.

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    u lookin any bigger bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by iraqiwarrior View Post
    u lookin any bigger bro
    I have put 2 kgs on but you really do not notice it.

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    Are you going to be posting any progress pics up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    Are you going to be posting any progress pics up?
    I do not see the point of progress pics, so only at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizen Sosuke View Post
    Thanks for the info. I always suspected this but had no other data than my own opinion. Keep up the log BJJ.

    Have you felt the NPP yet btw?
    I guess I did from yesterday.

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    Blood work updated ^^^

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    Post Week 2

    DAY -6

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 50 mg - NPP 50 mg - T4 150 mcg
    KCAL: 3.237
    MACROS (g): Protides 284, Lipides 86, Glucides 323
    TRAINING: Chest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
    SIDES: Head Cutes Ache, Light Headache
    INJECTION SITES: L Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (29g ½")
    BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 124 (mmHg), DIA 51 (mmHg), BPM 81

    DAY -5

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 1000 iu - Test SP 80 mg - NPP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.358
    MACROS (g): Protides 389, Lipides 54, Glucides 329
    TRAINING: Biceps, Forearms & ABS
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
    SIDES: Tiredness, Head Cutes Ache
    INJECTION SITES: R Delt (23g 1¼"), R Glut (22g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")

    DAY -4

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test SP 80 mg - Test P 70 mg - NPP 70 mg - EQ 300 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.499
    MACROS (g): Protides 350, Lipides 80, Glucides 327
    TRAINING: Shoulders & Triceps
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Diazepam (20 mg)
    SIDES: Tiredness
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Tummy (27g 1")

    DAY -3

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 3000 iu - Test SP 100 mg - Test P 80 mg - NPP 80 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.390
    MACROS (g): Protides 324, Lipides 78, Glucides 331
    TRAINING: Cardio 20'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
    SIDES: Tiredness, Musclular Pain (R, Shoulder & Dorsal)
    INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")

    DAY -2

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 3000 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 90 mg - NPP 90 mg - EQ 340 mg - DP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.201
    MACROS (g): Protides 310, Lipides 85, Glucides 287
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Paracetamol (1 g), Nimesulide (100 mg), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g)
    SIDES: Tiredness, Musclular Pain (R, Shoulder & Dorsal)
    INJECTION SITES: L Chest (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1"), Oblique (27g 1")

    DAY -1

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 100 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 80 mg - Mes 50 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.113
    MACROS (g): Protides 243, Lipides 125, Glucides 245
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
    SIDES: Musclular Pain (R Dorsal)
    INJECTION SITES: R Chest (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½")

    Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 317
    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.300

    -1 WEEK NOTES
    When injecting a water based compound with an oil based drug, it is best to draw first the water and then the oil, otherwise in the opposite case, the water drug will mix instantly, due to its less weight, with the oil compound already drew into the syringe, and it will be difficult to figure out how much of a water compound one has drawn from the vial.

    Today (day -4), I started to feel the tiredness I used to cope with in my previous cycle due to test suspension. It is not easy, with this compound, to setup proper time of injections in order to keep the blood levels as steady as possible. Also, the muscular pain associated to the injections begin to bug me and I want to push as much as possible in this burst cycle. I thought NPP could have helped me with this issue but I just do not want to wait and in case be disappointed. So, I decided to keep using test suspension till the first day of the first week as a front load and to add from today test propionate @ 70 mg ed to raise it to 150 mg ed once the test susp has gone.
    Though, I will keep using test suspension 30' before any leg work-out @ 50 mg.

    DAY 1

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 50 mcg - T3 25 mcg - EXE 12.5 mg - CAB 0.25 mg - HCG 300 iu
    KCAL: 3.180
    MACROS (g): Protides 390, Lipides 80, Glucides 225
    TRAINING: Biceps & Shoulders, Cardio 15'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Nimesulide (100 mg)
    SIDES: Muscular Pain (R Quadriceps)
    INJECTION SITES: R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1"), Oblique (29g ½")
    BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 116 (mmHg), DIA 44 (mmHg), BPM 86
    BLOOD WORK & PRESSURE: 1st Burst Cycle Blood Work

    DAY 2

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg - T3 25 mcg
    KCAL: 3.534
    MACROS (g): Protides 391, Lipides 90, Glucides 290
    TRAINING: Dorsal, Cardio 10'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
    SIDES: Severe Bloat (Ankles)
    INJECTION SITES: R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")

    DAY 3

    AAS: rHuEPO 4000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.406
    MACROS (g): Protides 366, Lipides 98, Glucides 265
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (10 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
    SIDES: Bloat (Ankles)
    INJECTION SITES: L Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (27g 1")

    DAY 4

    AAS: rHuEPO 4000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - EXE 25 mg - HCG 300 iu - B12 500 mcg
    KCAL: 4.060
    MACROS (g): Protides 389, Lipides 116, Glucides 365
    TRAINING: Biceps & Triceps, Cardio 20'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
    SIDES: Bloat (Ankles), Diarrhoea
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Glut (23g 1¼"), Oblique (27g 1"), R Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (29g ½")

    DAY 5

    AAS: rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 4.176
    MACROS (g): Protides 434, Lipides 100, Glucides 385
    TRAINING: Dorsal, Cardio 20'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Neomycin (50000 iu), Bacitracin (5000 iu), Loperamide (6 mg)
    SIDES: Diarrhoea
    INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), Tummy (27g 1")

    DAY 6

    AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 150 mg - MES 100 mg
    KCAL: 4.768
    MACROS (g): Protides 267, Lipides 204, Glucides 466
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼")

    DAY 7

    AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
    KCAL: 4.114
    MACROS (g): Protides 344, Lipides 158, Glucides 329
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: R Quad (23g 1¼")

    Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 369
    Cycle Average Protides Intake (g): 343

    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.891
    Cycle Average KCalories Intake: 3.595

    1st WEEK NOTES
    Since I am not using rHGH, 2 days so far (Hypertropin), I have less bloat and lost 2 lbs of water.

    Today, day 4, I shot 500 mcg of Cobalamin a couple of hours before the work out (IM). It gave me diarrhoea.

    At day 6, the bloat is finally gone. I lost 5 pounds of water.

    Considering Mesterolone vs Drostanolone Propionate at the same dosage (100 mg ed), the second one is much stronger.

    DAY 8

    AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 150 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - EXE 12.5 mg - HCG 300 iu
    KCAL: 4.688
    MACROS (g): Protides 403, Lipides 156, Glucides 418
    TRAINING: Shoulders, BJJ
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Diazepam (20 mg)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½")
    BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 137 (mmHg), DIA 63 (mmHg), BPM 72

    DAY 9

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 200 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
    KCAL: 4.050
    MACROS (g): Protides 382, Lipides 106, Glucides 392
    TRAINING: Chest, Cardio 30'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Diazepam (10 mg)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (30g ½")

    DAY 10

    AAS: rHGH 20 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 4.028
    MACROS (g): Protides 375, Lipides 112, Glucides 380
    TRAINING: BJJ
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (30g ½"), Oblique (30g ½")

    DAY 11

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 650 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg - EXE 12.5 mg - CAB 0.5 mg - HCG 600 iu
    KCAL: 4.021
    MACROS (g): Protides 304, Lipides 161, Glucides 339
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Tadalafil (20 mg)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Quad (23g 1¼"), R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (30g ½"), Tummy (29g ½")

    DAY 12

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 80 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 150 mg - DP 150 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 4.011
    MACROS (g): Protides 423, Lipides 103, Glucides 348
    TRAINING: Biceps & Femoral Biceps, Cardio 20'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Paracetamol (1 g)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Bicep (30g ½"), R Bicep (30g ½"), L Tricep (30g ½"), R Tricep (30g ½"), Oblique (30g ½")

    DAY 13

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 200 mcg
    KCAL: 3.607
    MACROS (g): Protides 316, Lipides 111, Glucides 336
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Loperamide (6 mg), Diazepam (10 mg)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Tummy (30g ½")

    DAY 14

    AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 160 mg - DP 160 mg
    KCAL: 3.513
    MACROS (g): Protides 315, Lipides 157, Glucides 210
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼")

    Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 359
    Cycle Average Protides Intake (g): 348

    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.988
    Cycle Average KCalories Intake: 3.726

    TOTAL INJECTIONS: 69
    Trapezius:
    Deltoids: 6
    Pectorals: 2
    Dorsal: 6
    Biceps: 2
    Triceps: 2
    Forearms:
    Gluteus: 9
    Quadriceps: 6
    Femoral Biceps:
    Calfs:
    Tummy: 6
    Oblique: 22
    Lost Attempts: 8

    2nd WEEK NOTES
    I cannot perform a heavy work-out and after that a session of BJJ, it is one or the other.

    I decided to get rid of rHGH and T4 till the beginning of PCT. Too much water retention which slows me down while performing BJJ.
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    Blood work updated.

    In the front load period, the use of aspirin as precaution, lowered my hematocrit.
    It is increasing back and hopefully it should reach 47, considering the amount of EPO used.

    Also, the amount of exemestane I am using e3.5 days, seems to be enough to hold the estradiol to an acceptable level.
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    Am I the only one who thinks this is a heck of a lot of gear?!?!?!?!?!

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    Wow, i am interested in the end result and also learning what some of these terms mean lol. Good luck man be safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks this is a heck of a lot of gear?!?!?!?!?!
    nope.

    Trying to understand the need for so many drugs.

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    ^Thank god I am not the only one! I would like to ask you BJJ as to why so many. Do you think it is necessary when your results could be the same with less compounds? Maybe I am overstepping my bounds on this but don't understand. I like how you explain everything down to the last detail which is apprieciated but are you relying on gear too much to get you where you want to be? Just a concerned member here thats all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro View Post
    ^Thank god I am not the only one! I would like to ask you BJJ as to why so many. Do you think it is necessary when your results could be the same with less compounds? Maybe I am overstepping my bounds on this but don't understand. I like how you explain everything down to the last detail which is apprieciated but are you relying on gear too much to get you where you want to be? Just a concerned member here thats all.
    The reasons are several.
    I am preparing the best third cycle possible for the next year when I am going to have around 10 garage fights in less then 5 months. The cycle will be around 20 weeks + PCT.

    So, this burst cycle is needed to understand how I react to some drugs never used before (in terms of strength) and to figure out the best way to raise my hematocrit level by comparing my blood works with the past two cycles.

    . Erythropoietin, I need to know if the amount used is enough and for how long it will last its effect

    . Somatropin & T4, the reason is obvious but on cycle I retain too much water, so I had the confirmation I will use it only in PCT and beyond

    . Boldenone Undecylenate, to have a confirmation this drug simply does not work for me and it is useless for stamina, by comparing several blood works

    . Drostanolone Propionate, to compare its power versus mesterolone

    . Testosterone Propionate, I prefer short esters and kept susp in addition only for leg days mostly

    . Nandrolone Phenylpropionate, for its ability to strengthen the tendons since I do not want to use oxandrolone anymore

    . Exemestane, to find a proper dosage protocol to allow me to hold the estradiol to a certain level throughout the cycle

    . Chorionic Gonadotrophin, to see if the shrinkage can be reduced and PCT improved

    . Methandrostenolone, simply to see how much water retention I will have on this drug and if can be used as a kick start for my next cycle

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    10 garage fights in less then 5 months(Gear isn't going to help as much as learning and training is)
    You are trying so many substances at one time that you have never tried before. How are you really going to know which one is getting the results you want when you are using so many at one time? You are making your cycles to complex when simpler ones will for sure do much better for you and not so hard on the body.

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    I also agree with the above, how could you possibly realize what is doing what and at those doses you jumped up to so quickly with only a couple cycles behind you???

    The blasting technique, and your are using 3 grams of AAS, on top of all the other things you got going would seem to be more geared toward a athlete trying put on substantial amounts of muscle and weight very quickly

    But you say your self and the way your cals are cycling, training style indicate that this is not what is going on. Wouldn't high doses of AAS slow down your performace and create too many sides like high blood pressure, water retention etc?

    Don't know much about BJJ or MMA but is this what a typical fighters drug regiment look like leading up into the fight?

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    ^^^
    I will answer you guys tomorrow.
    Bed time now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro View Post
    10 garage fights in less then 5 months(Gear isn't going to help as much as learning and training is) wise words. I train bjj since 20 years and was the first italian to get the black belt ever, so I know the real deal is training...

    You are trying so many substances at one time that you have never tried before. so many? actually only two in relation of AAS, which are NPP and DBOL, so I see no problem with that. EPO is something else, used for other purposes. I already used all the other substances and took several blood works to know how they dealt with my organism. How are you really going to know which one is getting the results you want when you are using so many at one time? this question, after reading the above, answers itself... You are making your cycles to complex when simpler ones will for sure do much better for you and not so hard on the body. my body is fine and bw confirms it. In any case, I believe it is better a short and heavy cycle instead of a longer one even though with less compounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed View Post
    I also agree with the above, how could you possibly realize what is doing what and at those doses you jumped up to so quickly with only a couple cycles behind you??? because the only drugs used as new were DBOL and NPP and in regard of the past I had many pages of BW to know exactly what, when and why certain values raised.

    The blasting technique, and your are using 3 grams of AAS, on top of all the other things you got going would seem to be more geared toward a athlete trying put on substantial amounts of muscle and weight very quickly right, in fact I want to reach 105 kg with my current bf, more or less, and be able to roll while fighting without getting tired after 5'.

    But you say your self and the way your cals are cycling, training style indicate that this is not what is going on. Wouldn't high doses of AAS slow down your performace and create too many sides like high blood pressure, water retention etc? no sir, I have no problem with high blood pressure, not even taking EPO, HGH and test all together... , go checking if interested, my bp history either in this cycle and in the previous one. And in relation of water retention, getting rid of HGH during the bulking period solved my problem. I never experienced any sides and in spite of using nandrolone, not even my progesterone value was raised at all.

    Don't know much about BJJ or MMA but is this what a typical fighters drug regiment look like leading up into the fight? they all use a type of test, mostly prop, and keep susp in addition just before the fight. plus, they all use oxandrolone or a drug with similar properties, to protect tendons while training, and some of them but not all, use EPO. some of those who do not use it for endurance purposes, train cardio with a special helmet to reduce the oxygen intake and keep them blind while performing the exercise in total darkness...
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    In any case, agree or disagree, thanks to both of you for your argumentations, which are legit.

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    Credit to you BJJ for the way you replied to the questions asked as alot of people would have not replied in the respectful way you did.

    We are here to ask questions of each other, to learn from each other even if we dont agree with the other mans point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turk1968 View Post
    Credit to you BJJ for the way you replied to the questions asked as alot of people would have not replied in the respectful way you did.

    We are here to ask questions of each other, to learn from each other even if we dont agree with the other mans point of view.
    Well, they were both polite and never used sarcasm so it was a duty and a pleasure for me to express my opinions.

    If, all the members in this forum would ask questions or state their opinions they way they did, it could be a much better place where to learn and share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer View Post
    Wow, i am interested in the end result and also learning what some of these terms mean lol. Good luck man be safe.

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    Post Week 3

    DAY -6

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 50 mg - NPP 50 mg - T4 150 mcg
    KCAL: 3.237
    MACROS (g): Protides 284, Lipides 86, Glucides 323
    TRAINING: Chest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
    SIDES: Head Cutes Ache, Light Headache
    INJECTION SITES: L Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (29g ½")
    BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 124 (mmHg), DIA 51 (mmHg), BPM 81

    DAY -5

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 1000 iu - Test SP 80 mg - NPP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.358
    MACROS (g): Protides 389, Lipides 54, Glucides 329
    TRAINING: Biceps, Forearms & ABS
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
    SIDES: Tiredness, Head Cutes Ache
    INJECTION SITES: R Delt (23g 1¼"), R Glut (22g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")

    DAY -4

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test SP 80 mg - Test P 70 mg - NPP 70 mg - EQ 300 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.499
    MACROS (g): Protides 350, Lipides 80, Glucides 327
    TRAINING: Shoulders & Triceps
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Diazepam (20 mg)
    SIDES: Tiredness
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Tummy (27g 1")

    DAY -3

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 3000 iu - Test SP 100 mg - Test P 80 mg - NPP 80 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.390
    MACROS (g): Protides 324, Lipides 78, Glucides 331
    TRAINING: Cardio 20'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
    SIDES: Tiredness, Musclular Pain (R, Shoulder & Dorsal)
    INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")

    DAY -2

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 3000 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 90 mg - NPP 90 mg - EQ 340 mg - DP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.201
    MACROS (g): Protides 310, Lipides 85, Glucides 287
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Paracetamol (1 g), Nimesulide (100 mg), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g)
    SIDES: Tiredness, Musclular Pain (R, Shoulder & Dorsal)
    INJECTION SITES: L Chest (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1"), Oblique (27g 1")

    DAY -1

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 100 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 80 mg - Mes 50 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.113
    MACROS (g): Protides 243, Lipides 125, Glucides 245
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
    SIDES: Musclular Pain (R Dorsal)
    INJECTION SITES: R Chest (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½")

    Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 317
    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.300

    -1 WEEK NOTES
    When injecting a water based compound with an oil based drug, it is best to draw first the water and then the oil, otherwise in the opposite case, the water drug will mix instantly, due to its less weight, with the oil compound already drew into the syringe, and it will be difficult to figure out how much of a water compound one has drawn from the vial.

    Today (day -4), I started to feel the tiredness I used to cope with in my previous cycle due to test suspension. It is not easy, with this compound, to setup proper time of injections in order to keep the blood levels as steady as possible. Also, the muscular pain associated to the injections begin to bug me and I want to push as much as possible in this burst cycle. I thought NPP could have helped me with this issue but I just do not want to wait and in case be disappointed. So, I decided to keep using test suspension till the first day of the first week as a front load and to add from today test propionate @ 70 mg ed to raise it to 150 mg ed once the test susp has gone.
    Though, I will keep using test suspension 30' before any leg work-out @ 50 mg.

    DAY 1

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 50 mcg - T3 25 mcg - EXE 12.5 mg - CAB 0.25 mg - HCG 300 iu
    KCAL: 3.180
    MACROS (g): Protides 390, Lipides 80, Glucides 225
    TRAINING: Biceps & Shoulders, Cardio 15'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Nimesulide (100 mg)
    SIDES: Muscular Pain (R Quadriceps)
    INJECTION SITES: R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1"), Oblique (29g ½")
    BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 116 (mmHg), DIA 44 (mmHg), BPM 86
    BLOOD WORK & PRESSURE: 1st Burst Cycle Blood Work

    DAY 2

    AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg - T3 25 mcg
    KCAL: 3.534
    MACROS (g): Protides 391, Lipides 90, Glucides 290
    TRAINING: Dorsal, Cardio 10'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
    SIDES: Severe Bloat (Ankles)
    INJECTION SITES: R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")

    DAY 3

    AAS: rHuEPO 4000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 3.406
    MACROS (g): Protides 366, Lipides 98, Glucides 265
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (10 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
    SIDES: Bloat (Ankles)
    INJECTION SITES: L Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (27g 1")

    DAY 4

    AAS: rHuEPO 4000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - EXE 25 mg - HCG 300 iu - B12 500 mcg
    KCAL: 4.060
    MACROS (g): Protides 389, Lipides 116, Glucides 365
    TRAINING: Biceps & Triceps, Cardio 20'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
    SIDES: Bloat (Ankles), Diarrhoea
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Glut (23g 1¼"), Oblique (27g 1"), R Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (29g ½")

    DAY 5

    AAS: rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 4.176
    MACROS (g): Protides 434, Lipides 100, Glucides 385
    TRAINING: Dorsal, Cardio 20'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Neomycin (50000 iu), Bacitracin (5000 iu), Loperamide (6 mg)
    SIDES: Diarrhoea
    INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), Tummy (27g 1")

    DAY 6

    AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 150 mg - MES 100 mg
    KCAL: 4.768
    MACROS (g): Protides 267, Lipides 204, Glucides 466
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼")

    DAY 7

    AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
    KCAL: 4.114
    MACROS (g): Protides 344, Lipides 158, Glucides 329
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: R Quad (23g 1¼")

    Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 369
    Cycle Average Protides Intake (g): 343

    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.891
    Cycle Average KCalories Intake: 3.595

    1st WEEK NOTES
    Since I am not using rHGH, 2 days so far (Hypertropin), I have less bloat and lost 2 lbs of water.

    Today, day 4, I shot 500 mcg of Cobalamin a couple of hours before the work out (IM). It gave me diarrhoea.

    At day 6, the bloat is finally gone. I lost 5 pounds of water.

    Considering Mesterolone vs Drostanolone Propionate at the same dosage (100 mg ed), the second one is much stronger.

    DAY 8

    AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 150 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - EXE 12.5 mg - HCG 300 iu
    KCAL: 4.688
    MACROS (g): Protides 403, Lipides 156, Glucides 418
    TRAINING: Shoulders, BJJ
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Diazepam (20 mg)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½")
    BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 137 (mmHg), DIA 63 (mmHg), BPM 72

    DAY 9

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 200 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
    KCAL: 4.050
    MACROS (g): Protides 382, Lipides 106, Glucides 392
    TRAINING: Chest, Cardio 30'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Diazepam (10 mg)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (30g ½")

    DAY 10

    AAS: rHGH 20 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 4.028
    MACROS (g): Protides 375, Lipides 112, Glucides 380
    TRAINING: BJJ
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (30g ½"), Oblique (30g ½")

    DAY 11

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 650 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg - EXE 12.5 mg - CAB 0.5 mg - HCG 600 iu
    KCAL: 4.021
    MACROS (g): Protides 304, Lipides 161, Glucides 339
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Tadalafil (20 mg)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Quad (23g 1¼"), R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (30g ½"), Tummy (29g ½")

    DAY 12

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 80 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 150 mg - DP 150 mg - T4 100 mcg
    KCAL: 4.011
    MACROS (g): Protides 423, Lipides 103, Glucides 348
    TRAINING: Biceps & Femoral Biceps, Cardio 20'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Paracetamol (1 g)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Bicep (30g ½"), R Bicep (30g ½"), L Tricep (30g ½"), R Tricep (30g ½"), Oblique (30g ½")

    DAY 13

    AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 200 mcg
    KCAL: 3.607
    MACROS (g): Protides 316, Lipides 111, Glucides 336
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Loperamide (6 mg), Diazepam (10 mg)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Tummy (30g ½")

    DAY 14

    AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 160 mg - DP 160 mg
    KCAL: 3.513
    MACROS (g): Protides 315, Lipides 157, Glucides 210
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼")

    Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 359
    Cycle Average Protides Intake (g): 348

    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.988
    Cycle Average KCalories Intake: 3.726

    2nd WEEK NOTES
    I cannot perform a heavy work-out and after that a session of BJJ, it is one or the other.

    I decided to get rid of rHGH and T4 till the beginning of PCT. Too much water retention which slows me down while performing BJJ.

    DAY 15

    AAS: Test SP 80 mg - Test P 200 mg - NPP 200 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 200 mg - EXE 12.5 mg - HCG 300 iu
    KCAL: 3.806
    MACROS (g): Protides 366, Lipides 91, Glucides 380
    TRAINING: Quadriceps, Adductors, Abductors & Calfs
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Delt (30g ½"), R Delt (30g ½"), L Bicep (30g ½"), R Bicep (30g ½"), Tummy (30g ½")
    BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 125 (mmHg), DIA 47 (mmHg), BPM 79
    BLOOD WORK & PRESSURE: 1st Burst Cycle Blood Work

    DAY 16

    AAS: Test SP 80 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
    KCAL: 3.661
    MACROS (g): Protides 366, Lipides 101, Glucides 322
    TRAINING: Triceps & Dorsal, Cardio 20'
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Trap (30g ½"), R Trap (30g ½"), L Bicep (30g ½"), R Bicep (30g ½")

    DAY 17

    AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
    KCAL: 3.947
    MACROS (g): Protides 346, Lipides 143, Glucides 319
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼")

    DAY 18

    AAS: Test SP 80 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - EXE 25 mg - HCG 300 iu
    KCAL: 4.481
    MACROS (g): Protides 430, Lipides 141, Glucides 373
    TRAINING: Chest & Biceps
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Tricep (30g ½"), R Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (30g ½")

    DAY 19

    AAS: Test SP 120 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
    KCAL: 4.774
    MACROS (g): Protides 413, Lipides 166, Glucides 407
    TRAINING: Quadriceps, Femoral Biceps, Adductors, Abductors & Calfs
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Loperamide (6 mg), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g), Diazepam (10 mg)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Quad (23g 1¼"), R Quad (23g 1¼")

    DAY 20

    AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 150 mg
    KCAL: 4.446
    MACROS (g): Protides 349, Lipides 170, Glucides 380
    TRAINING: Rest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (10 g), Diazepam (10 mg)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼")

    DAY 21

    AAS: Test SP 100 mg - Test P 210 mg - NPP 200 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 200 mg - MES 100 mg
    KCAL: 4.616
    MACROS (g): Protides 416, Lipides 136, Glucides 432
    TRAINING: Chest
    ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g)
    SIDES: Nil
    INJECTION SITES: R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Chest (23g 1¼"), R Chest (23g 1¼")

    Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 384
    Cycle Average Protides Intake (g): 357

    Daily Average KCalories Intake: 4.247
    Cycle Average KCalories Intake: 3.856

    TOTAL INJECTIONS: 107
    Trapezius: 2
    Deltoids: 9
    Pectorals: 4
    Dorsal: 11
    Biceps: 6
    Triceps: 3
    Forearms: 0
    Gluteus: 18
    Quadriceps: 8
    Femoral Biceps:
    Calfs: 0
    Tummy: 8
    Oblique: 22
    Lost Attempts: 16

    3rd WEEK NOTES
    In the front load period, the use of Aspirin as precaution lowered my hematocrit in spite of using rHuEPO. So, there was no need for it.
    At day 21, adding the front load period too, my hematocrit is increasing back and hopefully it should reach a value around 47%.

    The amount of Exemestane I am using e3.5 days (12.5 mg), seems to be enough to hold the estrogens to an acceptable level.

    As usual, just 0.25 mg of Cabergoline is enough to halve the PRL value.
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    Thanks for the input on exemestane and cabergoline. Question how often are you taking the .25mg of caber?

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    wow, thanks for all of the effort to go through and to design this thread and attempt to educate guys like me who, prior to reading this thread thought THEY were anal about having a good cycle. Subscribed!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by turk1968 View Post
    Credit to you BJJ for the way you replied to the questions asked as alot of people would have not replied in the respectful way you did.

    We are here to ask questions of each other, to learn from each other even if we dont agree with the other mans point of view.
    x2, I was going to say the same but a quote works. Very good response and shows a lot of maturity. Even though there questions did not have any sarcasm a lot of people would have read it into it. I have also seen you especially reply to obvious sarcasm with like restraint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizen Sosuke View Post
    Thanks for the input on exemestane and cabergoline. Question how often are you taking the .25mg of caber?
    I took it at day 1 and day 11 only.
    In my case, every couple of weeks is enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    x2, I was going to say the same but a quote works. Very good response and shows a lot of maturity. Even though there questions did not have any sarcasm a lot of people would have read it into it. I have also seen you especially reply to obvious sarcasm with like restraint.

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    BJJ, thank you for keeping such an extensive log. I myself have been looking into the use of EPO for MMA but have not taken the plunge yet because I was still researching the proper dosing protocol. It is such a taboo drug due to the negative attention it gets in the media because of cycling sports...And finding trustworthy information on the internet is hard to come by. May I ask, what led you to your current EPO dosing protocol?

    How important of a role does the aspirin play to control blood viscosity?Are you only using aspirin in the frontload stage or daily?

    What is your goal hematocrit level? I have heard that 55 is optimal for athletic endurance, but going about that is dangerous.

    THanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGBnine View Post
    BJJ, thank you for keeping such an extensive log. I myself have been looking into the use of EPO for MMA but have not taken the plunge yet because I was still researching the proper dosing protocol. It is such a taboo drug due to the negative attention it gets in the media because of cycling sports...And finding trustworthy information on the internet is hard to come by. May I ask, what led you to your current EPO dosing protocol? a few calculations that I made after several researches on newspapers dedicated to endurance sports.

    How important of a role does the aspirin play to control blood viscosity?Are you only using aspirin in the frontload stage or daily? aspirin is very strong in keeping the hematocrit level down. I used it only in my front load because I was scared I could raise the hematocrit too much and too soon but I was wrong. if I could turn back time, I would not use aspirin as a front load.

    What is your goal hematocrit level? I have heard that 55 is optimal for athletic endurance, but going about that is dangerous. my target is 50%, anything above that especially for those who trains mostly anaerobic, it is too dangerous.

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    how long do you have left bjj?

    do you prefer this to longer cycling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tembe View Post
    how long do you have left bjj?

    do you prefer this to longer cycling?
    Including this week, 3 more.

    It depends from the target one wants to achieve.
    Next year, I will probably try a 20 weeks cycle with 10 bulk, 4 bridge and 6 bulk.

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