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08-23-2010, 02:54 AM #41
So, today was the longest shot ever in once, consisting in:
1. 150 mg T Prop
2. 100 mg NPP
3. 100 mg DP
4. 400 mg EQ
5.5 cc into my right tight and so far I feel fine.
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08-24-2010, 12:57 PM #42
The ankles bloat from Hyper starts to worry me because it did not decrease even lowering the dose from 10 to 5 iu ed.
Not even taking exemestane I have noticed any improvement like heppened before with Hyge and they also hurt!
If, by tomorrow morning the situation has not changed, I will use furosemide @ 100 mg ed (2x) for a couple of days.
I do not like it much, I mean this version of rHGH, so I hope for a quick bw response to confirm my happenings.
Might that have something to do with rHuEPO?
I would love to know the answer...
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08-26-2010, 07:42 AM #43
Since I am not using rHGH, 2 days so far (Hypertropin), I have less bloat and lost 2 lbs of water.
Today, day 4, I shot 500 mcg of Cobalamin a couple of hours before the work out (IM).
Also, I decided to take furosemide on the week-end.Last edited by BJJ; 08-26-2010 at 02:12 PM.
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08-29-2010, 04:53 AM #44
Considering Mesterolone vs Drostanolone Propionate at the same dosage (100 mg ed), the second one is much stronger, at least for me.
Last edited by BJJ; 08-29-2010 at 04:57 AM.
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08-29-2010, 09:17 AM #45
Wow. This is the most detailed cycle log ive ever seen. Interested to see your end results. Scribed
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08-29-2010, 02:17 PM #46
Week 1
DAY -6
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 50 mg - NPP 50 mg - T4 150 mcg
KCAL: 3.237
MACROS (g): Protides 284, Lipides 86, Glucides 323
TRAINING: Chest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
SIDES: Head Cutes Ache, Light Headache
INJECTION SITES: L Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (29g ½")
BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 124 (mmHg), DIA 51 (mmHg), BPM 81
DAY -5
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 1000 iu - Test SP 80 mg - NPP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.358
MACROS (g): Protides 389, Lipides 54, Glucides 329
TRAINING: Biceps, Forearms & ABS
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
SIDES: Tiredness, Head Cutes Ache
INJECTION SITES: R Delt (23g 1¼"), R Glut (22g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")
DAY -4
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test SP 80 mg - Test P 70 mg - NPP 70 mg - EQ 300 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.499
MACROS (g): Protides 350, Lipides 80, Glucides 327
TRAINING: Shoulders & Triceps
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Diazepam (20 mg)
SIDES: Tiredness
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Tummy (27g 1")
DAY -3
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 3000 iu - Test SP 100 mg - Test P 80 mg - NPP 80 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.390
MACROS (g): Protides 324, Lipides 78, Glucides 331
TRAINING: Cardio 20'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Ketoprofen (5 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
SIDES: Tiredness, Musclular Pain (R, Shoulder & Dorsal)
INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")
DAY -2
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 3000 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 90 mg - NPP 90 mg - EQ 340 mg - DP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.201
MACROS (g): Protides 310, Lipides 85, Glucides 287
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Paracetamol (1 g), Nimesulide (100 mg), Ketoprofen (5 g)
SIDES: Tiredness, Musclular Pain (R, Shoulder & Dorsal)
INJECTION SITES: L Chest (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1"), Oblique (27g 1")
DAY -1
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 100 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 80 mg - Mes 50 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.113
MACROS (g): Protides 243, Lipides 125, Glucides 245
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
SIDES: Musclular Pain (R Dorsal)
INJECTION SITES: R Chest (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½")
Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 317
Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.300
-1 WEEK NOTES
When injecting a water based compound with an oil based drug, it is best to draw first the water and then the oil, otherwise in the opposite case, the water drug will mix instantly, due to its less weight, with the oil compound already drew into the syringe, and it will be difficult to figure out how much of a water compound one has drawn from the vial.
Today (day -4), I started to feel the tiredness I used to cope with in my previous cycle due to test suspension. It is not easy, with this compound, to setup proper time of injections in order to keep the blood levels as steady as possible. Also, the muscular pain associated to the injections begin to bug me and I want to push as much as possible in this burst cycle. I thought NPP could have helped me with this issue but I just do not want to wait and in case be disappointed. So, I decided to keep using test suspension till the first day of the first week as a front load and to add from today test propionate @ 70 mg ed to raise it to 150 mg ed once the test susp has gone.
Though, I will keep using test suspension 30' before any leg work-out @ 50 mg.
DAY 1
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 50 mcg - T3 25 mcg - EXE 12.5 mg - CAB 0.25 mg - HCG 300 iu
KCAL: 3.180
MACROS (g): Protides 390, Lipides 80, Glucides 225
TRAINING: Biceps & Shoulders, Cardio 15'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Nimesulide (100 mg)
SIDES: Muscular Pain (R Quadriceps)
INJECTION SITES: R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1"), Oblique (29g ½")
BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 116 (mmHg), DIA 44 (mmHg), BPM 86
BLOOD WORK & PRESSURE: 1st Burst Cycle Blood Work
DAY 2
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg - T3 25 mcg
KCAL: 3.534
MACROS (g): Protides 391, Lipides 90, Glucides 290
TRAINING: Dorsal, Cardio 10'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
SIDES: Severe Bloat (Ankles)
INJECTION SITES: R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")
DAY 3
AAS: rHuEPO 4000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.406
MACROS (g): Protides 366, Lipides 98, Glucides 265
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Ketoprofen (10 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
SIDES: Bloat (Ankles)
INJECTION SITES: L Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (27g 1")
DAY 4
AAS: rHuEPO 4000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - EXE 25 mg - HCG 300 iu - B12 500 mcg
KCAL: 4.060
MACROS (g): Protides 389, Lipides 116, Glucides 365
TRAINING: Biceps & Triceps, Cardio 20'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
SIDES: Bloat (Ankles), Diarrhoea
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Glut (23g 1¼"), Oblique (27g 1"), R Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (29g ½")
DAY 5
AAS: rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 4.176
MACROS (g): Protides 434, Lipides 100, Glucides 385
TRAINING: Dorsal, Cardio 20'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Neomycin (50000 iu), Bacitracin (5000 iu), Loperamide (6 mg)
SIDES: Diarrhoea
INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), Tummy (27g 1")
DAY 6
AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 150 mg - MES 100 mg
KCAL: 4.768
MACROS (g): Protides 267, Lipides 204, Glucides 466
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼")
DAY 7
AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
KCAL: 4.114
MACROS (g): Protides 344, Lipides 158, Glucides 329
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: R Quad (23g 1¼")
Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 369
Cycle Average Protides Intake (g): 343
Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.891
Cycle Average KCalories Intake: 3.595
TOTAL INJECTIONS: 41
Trapezius:
Deltoids: 4
Pectorals: 2
Dorsal: 2
Biceps:
Triceps:
Forearms:
Gluteus: 6
Quadriceps: 4
Femoral Biceps:
Calfs:
Tummy: 4
Oblique: 16
Lost Attempts: 3
1st WEEK NOTES
Since I am not using rHGH, 2 days so far (Hypertropin), I have less bloat and lost 2 lbs of water.
Today, day 4, I shot 500 mcg of Cobalamin a couple of hours before the work out (IM). It gave me diarrhoea.
At day 6, the bloat is finally gone. I lost 5 pounds of water.
Considering Mesterolone vs Drostanolone Propionate at the same dosage (100 mg ed), the second one is much stronger.Last edited by BJJ; 09-01-2010 at 08:12 AM.
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08-29-2010, 03:34 PM #47
Well thought out BJJ, nice work. will you be posting any pictures?
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08-29-2010, 04:32 PM #48
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08-29-2010, 04:47 PM #49
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08-30-2010, 12:16 AM #50Associate Member
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u lookin any bigger bro
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08-30-2010, 01:47 AM #51
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Are you going to be posting any progress pics up?
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08-30-2010, 07:24 AM #53
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08-31-2010, 07:21 AM #54
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09-01-2010, 08:10 AM #55
Blood work updated ^^^
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09-06-2010, 04:11 AM #56
Week 2
DAY -6
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 50 mg - NPP 50 mg - T4 150 mcg
KCAL: 3.237
MACROS (g): Protides 284, Lipides 86, Glucides 323
TRAINING: Chest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
SIDES: Head Cutes Ache, Light Headache
INJECTION SITES: L Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (29g ½")
BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 124 (mmHg), DIA 51 (mmHg), BPM 81
DAY -5
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 1000 iu - Test SP 80 mg - NPP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.358
MACROS (g): Protides 389, Lipides 54, Glucides 329
TRAINING: Biceps, Forearms & ABS
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
SIDES: Tiredness, Head Cutes Ache
INJECTION SITES: R Delt (23g 1¼"), R Glut (22g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")
DAY -4
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test SP 80 mg - Test P 70 mg - NPP 70 mg - EQ 300 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.499
MACROS (g): Protides 350, Lipides 80, Glucides 327
TRAINING: Shoulders & Triceps
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Diazepam (20 mg)
SIDES: Tiredness
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Tummy (27g 1")
DAY -3
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 3000 iu - Test SP 100 mg - Test P 80 mg - NPP 80 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.390
MACROS (g): Protides 324, Lipides 78, Glucides 331
TRAINING: Cardio 20'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
SIDES: Tiredness, Musclular Pain (R, Shoulder & Dorsal)
INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")
DAY -2
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 3000 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 90 mg - NPP 90 mg - EQ 340 mg - DP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.201
MACROS (g): Protides 310, Lipides 85, Glucides 287
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Paracetamol (1 g), Nimesulide (100 mg), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g)
SIDES: Tiredness, Musclular Pain (R, Shoulder & Dorsal)
INJECTION SITES: L Chest (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1"), Oblique (27g 1")
DAY -1
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 100 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 80 mg - Mes 50 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.113
MACROS (g): Protides 243, Lipides 125, Glucides 245
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
SIDES: Musclular Pain (R Dorsal)
INJECTION SITES: R Chest (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½")
Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 317
Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.300
-1 WEEK NOTES
When injecting a water based compound with an oil based drug, it is best to draw first the water and then the oil, otherwise in the opposite case, the water drug will mix instantly, due to its less weight, with the oil compound already drew into the syringe, and it will be difficult to figure out how much of a water compound one has drawn from the vial.
Today (day -4), I started to feel the tiredness I used to cope with in my previous cycle due to test suspension. It is not easy, with this compound, to setup proper time of injections in order to keep the blood levels as steady as possible. Also, the muscular pain associated to the injections begin to bug me and I want to push as much as possible in this burst cycle. I thought NPP could have helped me with this issue but I just do not want to wait and in case be disappointed. So, I decided to keep using test suspension till the first day of the first week as a front load and to add from today test propionate @ 70 mg ed to raise it to 150 mg ed once the test susp has gone.
Though, I will keep using test suspension 30' before any leg work-out @ 50 mg.
DAY 1
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 50 mcg - T3 25 mcg - EXE 12.5 mg - CAB 0.25 mg - HCG 300 iu
KCAL: 3.180
MACROS (g): Protides 390, Lipides 80, Glucides 225
TRAINING: Biceps & Shoulders, Cardio 15'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Nimesulide (100 mg)
SIDES: Muscular Pain (R Quadriceps)
INJECTION SITES: R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1"), Oblique (29g ½")
BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 116 (mmHg), DIA 44 (mmHg), BPM 86
BLOOD WORK & PRESSURE: 1st Burst Cycle Blood Work
DAY 2
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg - T3 25 mcg
KCAL: 3.534
MACROS (g): Protides 391, Lipides 90, Glucides 290
TRAINING: Dorsal, Cardio 10'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
SIDES: Severe Bloat (Ankles)
INJECTION SITES: R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")
DAY 3
AAS: rHuEPO 4000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.406
MACROS (g): Protides 366, Lipides 98, Glucides 265
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (10 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
SIDES: Bloat (Ankles)
INJECTION SITES: L Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (27g 1")
DAY 4
AAS: rHuEPO 4000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - EXE 25 mg - HCG 300 iu - B12 500 mcg
KCAL: 4.060
MACROS (g): Protides 389, Lipides 116, Glucides 365
TRAINING: Biceps & Triceps, Cardio 20'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
SIDES: Bloat (Ankles), Diarrhoea
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Glut (23g 1¼"), Oblique (27g 1"), R Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (29g ½")
DAY 5
AAS: rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 4.176
MACROS (g): Protides 434, Lipides 100, Glucides 385
TRAINING: Dorsal, Cardio 20'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Neomycin (50000 iu), Bacitracin (5000 iu), Loperamide (6 mg)
SIDES: Diarrhoea
INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), Tummy (27g 1")
DAY 6
AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 150 mg - MES 100 mg
KCAL: 4.768
MACROS (g): Protides 267, Lipides 204, Glucides 466
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼")
DAY 7
AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
KCAL: 4.114
MACROS (g): Protides 344, Lipides 158, Glucides 329
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: R Quad (23g 1¼")
Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 369
Cycle Average Protides Intake (g): 343
Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.891
Cycle Average KCalories Intake: 3.595
1st WEEK NOTES
Since I am not using rHGH, 2 days so far (Hypertropin), I have less bloat and lost 2 lbs of water.
Today, day 4, I shot 500 mcg of Cobalamin a couple of hours before the work out (IM). It gave me diarrhoea.
At day 6, the bloat is finally gone. I lost 5 pounds of water.
Considering Mesterolone vs Drostanolone Propionate at the same dosage (100 mg ed), the second one is much stronger.
DAY 8
AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 150 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - EXE 12.5 mg - HCG 300 iu
KCAL: 4.688
MACROS (g): Protides 403, Lipides 156, Glucides 418
TRAINING: Shoulders, BJJ
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Diazepam (20 mg)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½")
BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 137 (mmHg), DIA 63 (mmHg), BPM 72
DAY 9
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 200 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
KCAL: 4.050
MACROS (g): Protides 382, Lipides 106, Glucides 392
TRAINING: Chest, Cardio 30'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Diazepam (10 mg)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (30g ½")
DAY 10
AAS: rHGH 20 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 4.028
MACROS (g): Protides 375, Lipides 112, Glucides 380
TRAINING: BJJ
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (30g ½"), Oblique (30g ½")
DAY 11
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 650 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg - EXE 12.5 mg - CAB 0.5 mg - HCG 600 iu
KCAL: 4.021
MACROS (g): Protides 304, Lipides 161, Glucides 339
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Tadalafil (20 mg)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Quad (23g 1¼"), R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (30g ½"), Tummy (29g ½")
DAY 12
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 80 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 150 mg - DP 150 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 4.011
MACROS (g): Protides 423, Lipides 103, Glucides 348
TRAINING: Biceps & Femoral Biceps, Cardio 20'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Paracetamol (1 g)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Bicep (30g ½"), R Bicep (30g ½"), L Tricep (30g ½"), R Tricep (30g ½"), Oblique (30g ½")
DAY 13
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 200 mcg
KCAL: 3.607
MACROS (g): Protides 316, Lipides 111, Glucides 336
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Loperamide (6 mg), Diazepam (10 mg)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Tummy (30g ½")
DAY 14
AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 160 mg - DP 160 mg
KCAL: 3.513
MACROS (g): Protides 315, Lipides 157, Glucides 210
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼")
Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 359
Cycle Average Protides Intake (g): 348
Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.988
Cycle Average KCalories Intake: 3.726
TOTAL INJECTIONS: 69
Trapezius:
Deltoids: 6
Pectorals: 2
Dorsal: 6
Biceps: 2
Triceps: 2
Forearms:
Gluteus: 9
Quadriceps: 6
Femoral Biceps:
Calfs:
Tummy: 6
Oblique: 22
Lost Attempts: 8
2nd WEEK NOTES
I cannot perform a heavy work-out and after that a session of BJJ, it is one or the other.
I decided to get rid of rHGH and T4 till the beginning of PCT. Too much water retention which slows me down while performing BJJ.Last edited by BJJ; 09-10-2010 at 07:27 AM.
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09-10-2010, 04:26 AM #57
Blood work updated.
In the front load period, the use of aspirin as precaution, lowered my hematocrit.
It is increasing back and hopefully it should reach 47, considering the amount of EPO used.
Also, the amount of exemestane I am using e3.5 days, seems to be enough to hold the estradiol to an acceptable level.Last edited by BJJ; 09-10-2010 at 04:29 AM.
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09-10-2010, 09:24 AM #58
Am I the only one who thinks this is a heck of a lot of gear?!?!?!?!?!
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09-10-2010, 09:51 AM #59
Wow, i am interested in the end result and also learning what some of these terms mean lol. Good luck man be safe.
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09-10-2010, 09:58 AM #60
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09-10-2010, 10:49 AM #61
^Thank god I am not the only one! I would like to ask you BJJ as to why so many. Do you think it is necessary when your results could be the same with less compounds? Maybe I am overstepping my bounds on this but don't understand. I like how you explain everything down to the last detail which is apprieciated but are you relying on gear too much to get you where you want to be? Just a concerned member here thats all.
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09-10-2010, 12:00 PM #62
The reasons are several.
I am preparing the best third cycle possible for the next year when I am going to have around 10 garage fights in less then 5 months. The cycle will be around 20 weeks + PCT.
So, this burst cycle is needed to understand how I react to some drugs never used before (in terms of strength) and to figure out the best way to raise my hematocrit level by comparing my blood works with the past two cycles.
. Erythropoietin, I need to know if the amount used is enough and for how long it will last its effect
. Somatropin & T4, the reason is obvious but on cycle I retain too much water, so I had the confirmation I will use it only in PCT and beyond
. Boldenone Undecylenate, to have a confirmation this drug simply does not work for me and it is useless for stamina, by comparing several blood works
. Drostanolone Propionate, to compare its power versus mesterolone
. Testosterone Propionate, I prefer short esters and kept susp in addition only for leg days mostly
. Nandrolone Phenylpropionate, for its ability to strengthen the tendons since I do not want to use oxandrolone anymore
. Exemestane, to find a proper dosage protocol to allow me to hold the estradiol to a certain level throughout the cycle
. Chorionic Gonadotrophin, to see if the shrinkage can be reduced and PCT improved
. Methandrostenolone, simply to see how much water retention I will have on this drug and if can be used as a kick start for my next cycle
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09-10-2010, 01:07 PM #63
10 garage fights in less then 5 months(Gear isn't going to help as much as learning and training is)
You are trying so many substances at one time that you have never tried before. How are you really going to know which one is getting the results you want when you are using so many at one time? You are making your cycles to complex when simpler ones will for sure do much better for you and not so hard on the body.
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09-10-2010, 02:24 PM #64
I also agree with the above, how could you possibly realize what is doing what and at those doses you jumped up to so quickly with only a couple cycles behind you???
The blasting technique, and your are using 3 grams of AAS, on top of all the other things you got going would seem to be more geared toward a athlete trying put on substantial amounts of muscle and weight very quickly
But you say your self and the way your cals are cycling, training style indicate that this is not what is going on. Wouldn't high doses of AAS slow down your performace and create too many sides like high blood pressure, water retention etc?
Don't know much about BJJ or MMA but is this what a typical fighters drug regiment look like leading up into the fight?
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09-10-2010, 04:17 PM #65
^^^
I will answer you guys tomorrow.
Bed time now
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09-11-2010, 01:37 AM #66
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09-11-2010, 02:01 AM #67
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09-11-2010, 05:12 AM #68
In any case, agree or disagree, thanks to both of you for your argumentations, which are legit.
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09-12-2010, 12:56 PM #69Associate Member
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Credit to you BJJ for the way you replied to the questions asked as alot of people would have not replied in the respectful way you did.
We are here to ask questions of each other, to learn from each other even if we dont agree with the other mans point of view.
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09-12-2010, 01:52 PM #70
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09-12-2010, 01:54 PM #71
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09-12-2010, 02:43 PM #72
Week 3
DAY -6
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 50 mg - NPP 50 mg - T4 150 mcg
KCAL: 3.237
MACROS (g): Protides 284, Lipides 86, Glucides 323
TRAINING: Chest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
SIDES: Head Cutes Ache, Light Headache
INJECTION SITES: L Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (29g ½")
BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 124 (mmHg), DIA 51 (mmHg), BPM 81
DAY -5
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 1000 iu - Test SP 80 mg - NPP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.358
MACROS (g): Protides 389, Lipides 54, Glucides 329
TRAINING: Biceps, Forearms & ABS
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
SIDES: Tiredness, Head Cutes Ache
INJECTION SITES: R Delt (23g 1¼"), R Glut (22g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")
DAY -4
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test SP 80 mg - Test P 70 mg - NPP 70 mg - EQ 300 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.499
MACROS (g): Protides 350, Lipides 80, Glucides 327
TRAINING: Shoulders & Triceps
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Diazepam (20 mg)
SIDES: Tiredness
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Tummy (27g 1")
DAY -3
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 3000 iu - Test SP 100 mg - Test P 80 mg - NPP 80 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.390
MACROS (g): Protides 324, Lipides 78, Glucides 331
TRAINING: Cardio 20'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
SIDES: Tiredness, Musclular Pain (R, Shoulder & Dorsal)
INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")
DAY -2
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 3000 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 90 mg - NPP 90 mg - EQ 340 mg - DP 50 mg - Mes 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.201
MACROS (g): Protides 310, Lipides 85, Glucides 287
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Aspirin (500 mg), Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Paracetamol (1 g), Nimesulide (100 mg), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g)
SIDES: Tiredness, Musclular Pain (R, Shoulder & Dorsal)
INJECTION SITES: L Chest (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1"), Oblique (27g 1")
DAY -1
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 100 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 80 mg - Mes 50 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.113
MACROS (g): Protides 243, Lipides 125, Glucides 245
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
SIDES: Musclular Pain (R Dorsal)
INJECTION SITES: R Chest (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½")
Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 317
Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.300
-1 WEEK NOTES
When injecting a water based compound with an oil based drug, it is best to draw first the water and then the oil, otherwise in the opposite case, the water drug will mix instantly, due to its less weight, with the oil compound already drew into the syringe, and it will be difficult to figure out how much of a water compound one has drawn from the vial.
Today (day -4), I started to feel the tiredness I used to cope with in my previous cycle due to test suspension. It is not easy, with this compound, to setup proper time of injections in order to keep the blood levels as steady as possible. Also, the muscular pain associated to the injections begin to bug me and I want to push as much as possible in this burst cycle. I thought NPP could have helped me with this issue but I just do not want to wait and in case be disappointed. So, I decided to keep using test suspension till the first day of the first week as a front load and to add from today test propionate @ 70 mg ed to raise it to 150 mg ed once the test susp has gone.
Though, I will keep using test suspension 30' before any leg work-out @ 50 mg.
DAY 1
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 50 mcg - T3 25 mcg - EXE 12.5 mg - CAB 0.25 mg - HCG 300 iu
KCAL: 3.180
MACROS (g): Protides 390, Lipides 80, Glucides 225
TRAINING: Biceps & Shoulders, Cardio 15'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Nimesulide (100 mg)
SIDES: Muscular Pain (R Quadriceps)
INJECTION SITES: R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1"), Oblique (29g ½")
BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 116 (mmHg), DIA 44 (mmHg), BPM 86
BLOOD WORK & PRESSURE: 1st Burst Cycle Blood Work
DAY 2
AAS: rHGH 5 iu - rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg - T3 25 mcg
KCAL: 3.534
MACROS (g): Protides 391, Lipides 90, Glucides 290
TRAINING: Dorsal, Cardio 10'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
SIDES: Severe Bloat (Ankles)
INJECTION SITES: R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½"), Oblique (27g 1")
DAY 3
AAS: rHuEPO 4000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 3.406
MACROS (g): Protides 366, Lipides 98, Glucides 265
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (10 g), Nimesulide (100 mg)
SIDES: Bloat (Ankles)
INJECTION SITES: L Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (27g 1")
DAY 4
AAS: rHuEPO 4000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - EXE 25 mg - HCG 300 iu - B12 500 mcg
KCAL: 4.060
MACROS (g): Protides 389, Lipides 116, Glucides 365
TRAINING: Biceps & Triceps, Cardio 20'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
SIDES: Bloat (Ankles), Diarrhoea
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Glut (23g 1¼"), Oblique (27g 1"), R Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (29g ½")
DAY 5
AAS: rHuEPO 2000 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 4.176
MACROS (g): Protides 434, Lipides 100, Glucides 385
TRAINING: Dorsal, Cardio 20'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Neomycin (50000 iu), Bacitracin (5000 iu), Loperamide (6 mg)
SIDES: Diarrhoea
INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), Tummy (27g 1")
DAY 6
AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 150 mg - MES 100 mg
KCAL: 4.768
MACROS (g): Protides 267, Lipides 204, Glucides 466
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼")
DAY 7
AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
KCAL: 4.114
MACROS (g): Protides 344, Lipides 158, Glucides 329
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (1 g)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: R Quad (23g 1¼")
Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 369
Cycle Average Protides Intake (g): 343
Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.891
Cycle Average KCalories Intake: 3.595
1st WEEK NOTES
Since I am not using rHGH, 2 days so far (Hypertropin), I have less bloat and lost 2 lbs of water.
Today, day 4, I shot 500 mcg of Cobalamin a couple of hours before the work out (IM). It gave me diarrhoea.
At day 6, the bloat is finally gone. I lost 5 pounds of water.
Considering Mesterolone vs Drostanolone Propionate at the same dosage (100 mg ed), the second one is much stronger.
DAY 8
AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 150 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - EXE 12.5 mg - HCG 300 iu
KCAL: 4.688
MACROS (g): Protides 403, Lipides 156, Glucides 418
TRAINING: Shoulders, BJJ
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Diazepam (20 mg)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Oblique (29g ½")
BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 137 (mmHg), DIA 63 (mmHg), BPM 72
DAY 9
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 200 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
KCAL: 4.050
MACROS (g): Protides 382, Lipides 106, Glucides 392
TRAINING: Chest, Cardio 30'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Diazepam (10 mg)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (30g ½")
DAY 10
AAS: rHGH 20 iu - Test SP 50 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 4.028
MACROS (g): Protides 375, Lipides 112, Glucides 380
TRAINING: BJJ
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Delt (29g ½"), Oblique (30g ½"), Oblique (30g ½")
DAY 11
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 650 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 100 mcg - EXE 12.5 mg - CAB 0.5 mg - HCG 600 iu
KCAL: 4.021
MACROS (g): Protides 304, Lipides 161, Glucides 339
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Tadalafil (20 mg)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Quad (23g 1¼"), R Quad (23g 1¼"), Oblique (30g ½"), Tummy (29g ½")
DAY 12
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test SP 80 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 150 mg - DP 150 mg - T4 100 mcg
KCAL: 4.011
MACROS (g): Protides 423, Lipides 103, Glucides 348
TRAINING: Biceps & Femoral Biceps, Cardio 20'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCI (500 mg), Paracetamol (1 g)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Bicep (30g ½"), R Bicep (30g ½"), L Tricep (30g ½"), R Tricep (30g ½"), Oblique (30g ½")
DAY 13
AAS: rHGH 10 iu - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg - T4 200 mcg
KCAL: 3.607
MACROS (g): Protides 316, Lipides 111, Glucides 336
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Loperamide (6 mg), Diazepam (10 mg)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), Tummy (30g ½")
DAY 14
AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 160 mg - DP 160 mg
KCAL: 3.513
MACROS (g): Protides 315, Lipides 157, Glucides 210
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼")
Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 359
Cycle Average Protides Intake (g): 348
Daily Average KCalories Intake: 3.988
Cycle Average KCalories Intake: 3.726
2nd WEEK NOTES
I cannot perform a heavy work-out and after that a session of BJJ, it is one or the other.
I decided to get rid of rHGH and T4 till the beginning of PCT. Too much water retention which slows me down while performing BJJ.
DAY 15
AAS: Test SP 80 mg - Test P 200 mg - NPP 200 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 200 mg - EXE 12.5 mg - HCG 300 iu
KCAL: 3.806
MACROS (g): Protides 366, Lipides 91, Glucides 380
TRAINING: Quadriceps, Adductors, Abductors & Calfs
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Dorsal (23g 1¼"), R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Delt (30g ½"), R Delt (30g ½"), L Bicep (30g ½"), R Bicep (30g ½"), Tummy (30g ½")
BLOOD PRESSURE: SYS 125 (mmHg), DIA 47 (mmHg), BPM 79
BLOOD WORK & PRESSURE: 1st Burst Cycle Blood Work
DAY 16
AAS: Test SP 80 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
KCAL: 3.661
MACROS (g): Protides 366, Lipides 101, Glucides 322
TRAINING: Triceps & Dorsal, Cardio 20'
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Trap (30g ½"), R Trap (30g ½"), L Bicep (30g ½"), R Bicep (30g ½")
DAY 17
AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
KCAL: 3.947
MACROS (g): Protides 346, Lipides 143, Glucides 319
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Nil
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼")
DAY 18
AAS: Test SP 80 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 100 mg - EXE 25 mg - HCG 300 iu
KCAL: 4.481
MACROS (g): Protides 430, Lipides 141, Glucides 373
TRAINING: Chest & Biceps
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Tricep (30g ½"), R Delt (23g 1¼"), Tummy (30g ½")
DAY 19
AAS: Test SP 120 mg - Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 100 mg
KCAL: 4.774
MACROS (g): Protides 413, Lipides 166, Glucides 407
TRAINING: Quadriceps, Femoral Biceps, Adductors, Abductors & Calfs
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Loperamide (6 mg), Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g), Diazepam (10 mg)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Quad (23g 1¼"), R Quad (23g 1¼")
DAY 20
AAS: Test P 150 mg - NPP 100 mg - DP 150 mg
KCAL: 4.446
MACROS (g): Protides 349, Lipides 170, Glucides 380
TRAINING: Rest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (10 g), Diazepam (10 mg)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: L Dorsal (23g 1¼")
DAY 21
AAS: Test SP 100 mg - Test P 210 mg - NPP 200 mg - EQ 400 mg - DP 200 mg - MES 100 mg
KCAL: 4.616
MACROS (g): Protides 416, Lipides 136, Glucides 432
TRAINING: Chest
ADDITIONAL DRUGS: Ketoprofen Lysine Salt (5 g)
SIDES: Nil
INJECTION SITES: R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), R Dorsal (23g 1¼"), L Glut (23g 1¼"), R Glut (23g 1¼"), L Chest (23g 1¼"), R Chest (23g 1¼")
Daily Average Protides Intake (g): 384
Cycle Average Protides Intake (g): 357
Daily Average KCalories Intake: 4.247
Cycle Average KCalories Intake: 3.856
TOTAL INJECTIONS: 107
Trapezius: 2
Deltoids: 9
Pectorals: 4
Dorsal: 11
Biceps: 6
Triceps: 3
Forearms: 0
Gluteus: 18
Quadriceps: 8
Femoral Biceps:
Calfs: 0
Tummy: 8
Oblique: 22
Lost Attempts: 16
3rd WEEK NOTES
In the front load period, the use of Aspirin as precaution lowered my hematocrit in spite of using rHuEPO. So, there was no need for it.
At day 21, adding the front load period too, my hematocrit is increasing back and hopefully it should reach a value around 47%.
The amount of Exemestane I am using e3.5 days (12.5 mg), seems to be enough to hold the estrogens to an acceptable level.
As usual, just 0.25 mg of Cabergoline is enough to halve the PRL value.Last edited by BJJ; 09-12-2010 at 02:48 PM.
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09-12-2010, 04:33 PM #73
Thanks for the input on exemestane and cabergoline. Question how often are you taking the .25mg of caber?
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09-12-2010, 10:25 PM #74
wow, thanks for all of the effort to go through and to design this thread and attempt to educate guys like me who, prior to reading this thread thought THEY were anal about having a good cycle. Subscribed!!!!!
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09-12-2010, 11:49 PM #75
x2, I was going to say the same but a quote works. Very good response and shows a lot of maturity. Even though there questions did not have any sarcasm a lot of people would have read it into it. I have also seen you especially reply to obvious sarcasm with like restraint.
Last edited by lovbyts; 09-12-2010 at 11:52 PM.
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09-13-2010, 02:09 AM #76
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09-15-2010, 10:42 PM #77Anabolic Member
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BJJ, thank you for keeping such an extensive log. I myself have been looking into the use of EPO for MMA but have not taken the plunge yet because I was still researching the proper dosing protocol. It is such a taboo drug due to the negative attention it gets in the media because of cycling sports...And finding trustworthy information on the internet is hard to come by. May I ask, what led you to your current EPO dosing protocol?
How important of a role does the aspirin play to control blood viscosity?Are you only using aspirin in the frontload stage or daily?
What is your goal hematocrit level? I have heard that 55 is optimal for athletic endurance, but going about that is dangerous.
THanks!
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09-16-2010, 01:35 AM #78
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09-16-2010, 04:37 AM #79
how long do you have left bjj?
do you prefer this to longer cycling?
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09-16-2010, 12:32 PM #80
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