Got a Couple Comparative Questions...

**Loadedyup** · 11-07-2010, 02:54 AM

I'm 32 about 170 lbs and 10% BF. My diet is lean and I avoid sugar and alcohol. I feel like I'm what you call a "hardgainer" but I'm down to my last 6/7lbs of fat that I would like to lose and I'm having a helluva time doing it.
I have run a couple cycles of Methandrol before I knew what I was doing and got good results. I ran my last bottle of it about 3 months ago, and didn't have a lot of weight gain at all. I noticed some firming etc, and I wasn't worn out in the gym ever...the purpose of my cycles is typically for cutting.
My current cycle consideration is this M-drol 20mg, Epistane 1pill whatever that dose is, Tamox cit 25ml, Animal Stack and Flex, and Cycle Support 4 pills. Daily...
I have a feeling Mdrol is going to be a real b****. I'm reading all these great reviews from the 12yr old's, but when I take ONE pill it makes my right nipple super sore almost immediately and makes my liver hurt. I have a bottle of Sustarol as a substitue if this falls apart, but I'm seriously considering cutting the bs, and moving to real gear.
Is Mdrol typical in these symptoms I'm referencing and should I just try to stick it out and let my body get accustomed to it?
Is Sustadrol a viable alternative at all or is it a total waste of time?
I would rather do PH's than cross any legal boundaries, honestly, but from a health perspective, if it's going to be just as rude on my body, or not, hopefully, I would rather have the real deal. Perhaps an Anavar or Dianabol cycle wouldn't mess with the liver so much.
Is real gear worth the risks?
I feel like the results from PH's are pretty lame. Especially after the ban. That Methandrol was some clean stuff and did impress me. I never slapped on 20lbs of muscle, but I did gain 4/5 and keep about 3 on a 4 week cycle. I was always eating to manage fat gain as well. No 10k calorie ice cream diet.
I would appreciate a good recommendation, having no experience with real gear. My biggest concern is from a health perspective as I don't want to look great in a coffin.
If not real gear, then please recommend me something I might be able to actually buy that will do some good!

Thanks!

**scotty51312** · 11-07-2010, 03:10 AM

I will make a recommendation that you start in the diet forum whil you read up on the possibilities of using gear. I didn't make any gains till i learned to eat right. The sad thing was i thought i was eating right when i wasn't

**Loadedyup** · 11-07-2010, 03:24 AM

You are probably right on with that one...kindof a sample of what a typical day is like...
Breakfast - 1 cup nonfat sugar free yogurt, and 2 scoops protein
snack - 1/2 cup o nuts
lunch - chicken wings or 3 hamburger patties
snack - chicken wings 6
dinner - 2 chicken breasts or 6 eggs

Something like that. I run some options on that...I feel like I could probably use some improvement in this area. Thanks for the response!

**scotty51312** · 11-07-2010, 03:41 AM

yeah bro, thats the issue. Read up in the diet section and learn how to eat and i guarantee you'll grow

**cro** · 11-07-2010, 05:40 AM

listen i have been natural for 20 yrs im bigger built than alot of my friends that have juiced. i have one many of natural comps.so i know you can do it natural.with alittle amino/no/creatine/super diet

**cro** · 11-07-2010, 06:12 AM

chicken wings..... you ok bro

**ROXXXTAR** · 11-07-2010, 06:33 AM

Your diet is terrible and AAS are not even a logical option unless you work on that...Take some time, read some stuff, then ask some questions, and after all that you will hopefully be able to answer your own questions