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    Quote Originally Posted by gymnerd View Post
    Its not, IMO most everyone who makes those kinds of gains are newbs with little training and or never done an anabolic before so they respond well. 20 lbs in 4 wks? I would not get that off 1500mg of test and 200mg of anadrol soo take those claims with a grain of salt
    This is the point I was trying to make with the pencil neck comment. 20 lbs is a massive amount of weight, and is 5 lbs per week..experienced guys have trouble getting 3-5 lbs net a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by nhl1
    I am pleased, but it's scary, because I feel like I could run this shit forever, which of course I will not do.
    Cycling is not just about reducing sides either. We make better gains by coming off [or low dose test] over the longer term. Hence why pros use cruise and blasts.

    Quote Originally Posted by SMcB
    Which makes me wonder, is a 4 week superdrol cycle superior to a 10-12 week steroid cycle?
    You cant really make any true, mature muscle in 4 weeks time. Scale weight can go up, as well as strength shorter term. But to gain quality muscle takes months. This matured muscle is easier to maintain, generally the quicker gain the easier/faster you will loose. This might confuse newbies who are far under their genetic potential and can gain and maintain muscle more quickly

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike View Post
    How can we say you have no side effects with no medical basis? Was any bloodwork at all done?? That being said superdrol is complete shit IMO. If you are a pencil neck you might pack on some muscle and water but I didnt gain one damn thing: weight or strength.
    Why is this not the first thought^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMcB View Post
    This superdrol/m-drol compound is pretty intriguing. I can't believe the ridiculous amount of weight/strength that people put on in such a short period of time. Which makes me wonder, is a 4 week superdrol cycle superior to a 10-12 week steroid cycle? If you can gain the same amount in 4 weeks as you could on a long injectable cycle, wouldn't it be better to do a 4 week cycle instead? Wouldn't HPTA recovery be that much quicker, which would mean more gains kept after cycle?
    Obviously, everyone reacts a little different to each compound. Most users will always have a favorite, because it seems to work better with their body chemistry and gives them desired results.

    I've taken test(all blends)/deca /winny/primabolan/eq/dbol -and probably a couple more I can't think of, and I've tried them in several different combinations. Unfortunately, I could never get the exact look I desired because I'd either be spending too much money (primobolan ) or holding too much water weight (test/deca/dbol).

    The Superdrol clone I'm taking has finally given me the exact physique I have always desired. No water, vascularity, lean and hard muscle. I'll be getting bloodwork done in a few weeks to see what kind of (if any) damage this substance did to my body, and, if (as I suspect) my levels are fine, I'll never take any other steroid again.

    In fact, I'll probably look into purchasing a large supply of this substance and see what I need to do in order to properly store it for years. It is that good.

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    You cant really make any true, mature muscle in 4 weeks time. Scale weight can go up, as well as strength shorter term. But to gain quality muscle takes months. This matured muscle is easier to maintain, generally the quicker gain the easier/faster you will loose. This might confuse newbies who are far under their genetic potential and can gain and maintain muscle more quickly
    100% Agree. The reason I was able to gain 20 lbs in a few weeks is because I was only 202 lbs when I started taking my SD clone, but I have been as large as 242 lbs in the past because of AAS. I think it's that whole muscle memory thing.

    That seems to happen to me anytime I hit something hard after having not taken anything for a large amount of time. I gained 18 lbs in 14 days from Test/Deca once.

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    I haven't read any replies yet but why aren't you taking any on off days? Whoever gave you that advice should be shot. And 40mg on your first run with SD????!!! You should need no more than 20mg, perhaps even 30mg

    I took it recently at 20mg and the sides killed me. My appetite was destroyed and had to force feed myself every day. Also felt lethargic all day. on dbol I had no such sides, but the water retention is far worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    I haven't read any replies yet but why aren't you taking any on off days? Whoever gave you that advice should be shot. And 40mg on your first run with SD????!!! You should need no more than 20mg, perhaps even 30mg
    That was a personal decision. The first few weeks I simply lowered the dosage to 20mg on rest days, but after reading so much information concerning its hepatoxicity, I decided I would give my liver a total break when I could.

    Here is some new information I've found regarding the substance I'm taking. This is from a rep at the manufacturer.

    The original Superdrol (2a,17a-Dimethyl-17Ã-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one) and the Primabol (2a-17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one ) are ALMOST identical. The only difference is that the Primabol is methylated in a the 17b position, whereas the superdrol is in the 17a conformation. As for results, you can expect very similar results.

    The company--which has been around for years and offers many prohormones--has sponsored trials to users running cycles up to 8 weeks, and very little side effects have been reported. In addition to the compound being methylated at a different position, they employ an "Absorbtech" technology that is supposed to help ease strain on the liver.

    The different methylated position not only makes the substance a bit weaker than the original SD, it makes it considerably less toxic as well. Hence why I didn't get any side effects. So in conclusion, I am not taking SD and I'm not sure you could even call it a clone.

    I'll take a less potent compound if it won't give me side effects any day of the week. Good shit.

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    I took it recently at 20mg and the sides killed me. My appetite was destroyed and had to force feed myself every day. Also felt lethargic all day.
    Those are perfect examples of the warning signs that I've been looking for (but haven't found). Loss of appetite is a red flag for liver issues and lethargy is one for lipid values.

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    h drol is a ton easier on the sides.
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    I haven't read any replies yet but why aren't you taking any on off days? Whoever gave you that advice should be shot. And 40mg on your first run with SD????!!! You should need no more than 20mg, perhaps even 30mg

    I took it recently at 20mg and the sides killed me. My appetite was destroyed and had to force feed myself every day. Also felt lethargic all day. on dbol I had no such sides, but the water retention is far worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhl1 View Post
    Those are perfect examples of the warning signs that I've been looking for (but haven't found). Loss of appetite is a red flag for liver issues and lethargy is one for lipid values.
    yea my appetite was gone. even when I take stim fat burners I still have a huge appetite. I normally have the appetite of a sumo wrestler. I could easily down 6k calories per day if it wasn't so expensive and benefitted me. with SD, the appetite was gone completely. Even protein shakes were painful to drink

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    h drol is a ton easier on the sides.
    but not nearly as effective
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    i found h-drol to be a real quick gainer.
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    yea my appetite was gone. even when I take stim fat burners I still have a huge appetite. I normally have the appetite of a sumo wrestler. I could easily down 6k calories per day if it wasn't so expensive and benefitted me. with SD, the appetite was gone completely. Even protein shakes were painful to drink



    but not nearly as effective

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    Quote Originally Posted by cro View Post
    i found h-drol to be a real quick gainer.
    I'm not saying it's not good.

    However, SD is known to be the granddaddy of all prohormes. Definitely one of the two bests out there. Superior to dbol and anadrol when it comes to pure muscle gains, however, it's more toxic

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    there is still a little good super-drol on shelves attic stock...
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    I'm not saying it's not good.

    However, SD is known to be the granddaddy of all prohormes. Definitely one of the two bests out there. Superior to dbol and anadrol when it comes to pure muscle gains, however, it's more toxic

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