How much time between a bulking and cutting cycle?

**Bicycle4Cardio** · 02-18-2011, 11:59 PM

Is there a recommended wait time or a general consensus between a bulking and cutting cycle. For example, if someone was to do 400mg/wk of Test Cyp for 12wks how much time should they wait before going to a cutting cycle such as 100mg/EOD Test Prop and 75mgs/EOD Tren ?

The reason I ask is most I have seen that do cycles also put on a good amount of body fat along with the muscle mass. It would seem like trying to cut directly after a cycle without being on another would be MUCH more difficult due to the catabolic and low-Test state the body is now in?

**cjBeast** · 02-19-2011, 12:06 AM

I would suggest your standard 2-3 wk PCT followed by an additional 2-3 wks of maintenance with no AS. Toss in some ZMAs to up regulate your natural test production and then assuming all 'feels' good, start your cut cycle. A good idea is to buy a few home testosterone test kits, test before bulk and after PCT to check levels.

**bmit** · 02-19-2011, 11:07 AM

Lots of factors to consider. If you are past or close to your genetic limit you may not be able to cut without AAS (or even without high-dose AAS) without losing a good deal of muscle. If you gained a lot of muscle relative to what you had prior to the cycle you want to give your body a chance to reach homeostasis at that new weight and muscle level. You certainly don't want to be doing anything till you are out of PCT, and then consider how much muscle you gained to figure out how long your body will take to adjust to the weight?

I.e. what were your stats before the cycle and what are they now?

**dec11** · 02-19-2011, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by cjBeast

I would suggest your standard 2-3 wk PCT followed by an additional 2-3 wks of maintenance with no AS. Toss in some ZMAs to up regulate your natural test production and then assuming all 'feels' good, start your cut cycle. A good idea is to buy a few home testosterone test kits, test before bulk and after PCT to check levels.

absolute crap 'advice'

**dec11** · 02-19-2011, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Bicycle4Cardio

Is there a recommended wait time or a general consensus between a bulking and cutting cycle. For example, if someone was to do 400mg/wk of Test Cyp for 12wks how much time should they wait before going to a cutting cycle such as 100mg/EOD Test Prop and 75mgs/EOD Tren ?

The reason I ask is most I have seen that do cycles also put on a good amount of body fat along with the muscle mass. It would seem like trying to cut directly after a cycle without being on another would be MUCH more difficult due to the catabolic and low-Test state the body is now in?

age and stats please

**Bicycle4Cardio** · 02-20-2011, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by dec11

age and stats please

28yo
5'7"
190 lbs
6 years training
1st cycle

**cro** · 02-20-2011, 07:23 AM

bf%?

Originally Posted by Bicycle4Cardio

28yo
5'7"
190 lbs
6 years training
1st cycle

**Bicycle4Cardio** · 02-20-2011, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by cro

bf%?

~15%

**Shroud83** · 02-20-2011, 04:35 PM

You definitely don't want to jump onto a cutting cycle right after an AAS cycle, you will lose your gains. Your body is already trying to restore "normality" so you really need to stay on the mass building diet until you are WELL out of PCT. Also cutting while on AAS is a common practice. My strategy is this (based on 16 weeks combined of aas and pct):

16 weeks bulking while on AAS and PCT
16 weeks bulking (taking a break from AAS)
16 weeks cutting while on AAS
16 weeks bulking (taking a break from AAS)

In this example, out of the roughly year and a half of training, 1/4 of the time is spent cutting while on AAS. This way when you're not on AAS you're still eating enough to maintain your gains. This isn't going to work for everyone and it depends on your goals, and I'm certainly no expert on the matter, so take my advice with a grain of salt

-Shroud

**Ashop** · 02-20-2011, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Bicycle4Cardio

Is there a recommended wait time or a general consensus between a bulking and cutting cycle. For example, if someone was to do 400mg/wk of Test Cyp for 12wks how much time should they wait before going to a cutting cycle such as 100mg/EOD Test Prop and 75mgs/EOD Tren ?

The reason I ask is most I have seen that do cycles also put on a good amount of body fat along with the muscle mass. It would seem like trying to cut directly after a cycle without being on another would be MUCH more difficult due to the catabolic and low-Test state the body is now in?

General rule of thumb for cycle lengths is,, TIME ON=TIME OFF