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    Incredibly stupid or genious ?

    Found out a buddy of mine has been juicing - thought he was natty based on how long he has been dieting/training, oh well. I also noticed he visits the bank ALOT for 3-4 months at a time then never goes back (we use the same bank and he openly communicates with me). So I'm like sure 90% this guy keeps his gear in his safety deposit box. Is this just incredibly stupid ? I know you get a private room with your box and I could see him hiding pins and syringes in his coat and drawing up what he needs then leaving. The bank doesn't ask what you do or what's in it. They open your compartment, ask if you need to use the private room and bugger off until you come back. Only 1 client is allowed in the back to use their box at a time and I know staff isn't allowed back there during the process. But still honestly wouldn't it just take a small slip up and get yourself thrown in jail ?

    I'm going to try and talk him out of it - thoughts ? The only reason I could see him doing it is because he lives in student housing with 4/5 other people.
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    i wouldnt do it. But you could keep your pins and everything in the box.
    I dont see why anyone would do that unless you are trying to hide it from other people in your home. Its no safer police wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    i wouldnt do it. But you could keep your pins and everything in the box.
    I dont see why anyone would do that unless you are trying to hide it from other people in your home. Its no safer police wise.
    Well I know he lives with atleast 4 other people and I think a 5th person comes and goes. They are all students doing their PHD / Masters. I have no idea the logistics or dynamics of the living situation but I would assume he would be doing it to hide it from them.

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    that is retarded.

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    Probably hiding it from his wife.

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    It seems like a lot of trouble to go through to hide gear from people. However, if the bank ensures privacy then what is the harm? They grant you the service of coming and going without questions. If they breached that client trust by searching his box and subsequently turning over the contents to the police they would be putting their whole security box "product" into question by all current and potential future clients. I believe it is a risk they would not want to take. The confidentiality and security of the clients items is paramount to the service. Its a tedious yet genious move to stash your gear in a bank in my opinion!

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    People.... This is coming from a 3 x felon who had his house raided 4x over 15 years.
    BURY YOUR SHIT IN YOUR YARD. NEVER have they found mine .

    No wise ass comments please .
    Telling you from experience !

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    Mate swears by burying his shit in the yard. Personally I keep my gear in my wardrobe.

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    What do you mean burn your shit in your yard?
    To cover where you buried it?
    I've thought about a safe deposit box but I remember reading about the risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjuice View Post
    People.... This is coming from a 3 x felon who had his house raided 4x over 15 years.
    BURY YOUR SHIT IN YOUR YARD. NEVER have they found mine .

    No wise ass comments please .
    Telling you from experience !
    Do you keep it buried all the time? How do you know when you are getting busted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pac Man View Post
    What do you mean burn your shit in your yard?
    To cover where you buried it?
    I've thought about a safe deposit box but I remember reading about the risk.
    Exactly what did you read Pac Man ? O_o.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppz View Post
    Probably hiding it from his wife.
    Reading the first post would tell you he lives with 4-5 other guys. It seems reasonable I suppose I mean I Have no clue what kind of people these guys are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjuice View Post
    People.... This is coming from a 3 x felon who had his house raided 4x over 15 years.
    BURY YOUR SHIT IN YOUR YARD. NEVER have they found mine .

    No wise ass comments please .
    Telling you from experience !
    Here is your wise ass comment.

    You can not be serious. Bury it in your yard? How do you go about this? Do you really go out and dig it up every few days?

    If this is what you do it may be one of the stupidest things i have ever heard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12 View Post
    Here is your wise ass comment.

    You can not be serious. Bury it in your yard? How do you go about this? Do you really go out and dig it up every few days?

    If this is what you do it may be one of the stupidest things i have ever heard
    Lmfao!

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    Haha burying it is hilarious! I guess I forget sometimes how fortunate I am with just leaving it out in my closet since no one would ever be snooping around. As far as needles...don't you boys in the south get free ones at the clinic? Here in Canada they provide them to you and even do a mobile dropoff service. ****ing amazing it's like calling it in for a pizza when you need every cycle lol. I am pretty sure it is also not illegal up here to carry needles and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minion0812 View Post
    Haha burying it is hilarious! I guess I forget sometimes how fortunate I am with just leaving it out in my closet since no one would ever be snooping around. As far as needles...don't you boys in the south get free ones at the clinic? Here in Canada they provide them to you and even do a mobile dropoff service. ****ing amazing it's like calling it in for a pizza when you need every cycle lol. I am pretty sure it is also not illegal up here to carry needles and such.
    I'm Canadian too mate..I have never heard of this service though wtf (makes sense as I don't cycle). You in the GTA ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Exactly what did you read Pac Man ? O_o.
    That if LEO suspects you are hiding illegal or controlled substances in your safe deposit box the bank will allow them to search it without much of an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pac Man View Post
    That if LEO suspects you are hiding illegal or controlled substances in your safe deposit box the bank will allow them to search it without much of an issue.
    they would need a warrant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I'm Canadian too mate..I have never heard of this service though wtf (makes sense as I don't cycle). You in the GTA ?
    haha yeah bro! Just outside TO towards Hamilton way. Send me an inbox and I will shoot you over all the info and mobile number. It is ****ing hilarious! They come all secretive after you tell them what to bring and they pass it out of the car in a brown paper bag.....They will meet you anywhere and give you all rubbing alcohal, swabs, pins, syringes, waste disposal, etc. Even a pamphlet of how to inject. ****ing love canada! lol

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    OK. I read the entire thread. the risk at home is that of discovery while living with 4 other roomates. to offset this risk, it would be very easy to get a safe box and bolt it to the floor, possibly under the bed. but there is still the risk of discoveringthe safe box. and there is the risk of discovery by the police if there is a search. they would need a warrant to open, but that would probalby only slow them down, if their original warrant didn't allow for them to do that.

    The safe box at the bank is alot of work. It does seem safer than the house, especially if the other roomates partake in risky behavior.

    Personally, If i was that concerned about having my gear at the house, then a safe box at the bank is a smart alternative.

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    agreed Noles.......

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    I keep mine in my pocket at all times

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    To some commenting..... Smarten Up !

    Fellas,

    I'll give all of you the detailed run down on how,why and what situations I've been thru to help you absorb what I am saying about burying your STUFF.
    Funny reading some of the comments knowing that not once have The "Commentors" have dealt with the DEA OR a task force.
    Smarten up or allow me to help you.
    Wardrobe, Closet, in your pocket, all dumb. Though safety deposit does seem ok but still risky as there are interactions with others and any warrant will get that box open. I only depend on my self for my safety. Another lesson costing 200k learned.
    I will send the details in 4 hours after I get JACKED and back to my office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjuice View Post
    Fellas,

    I'll give all of you the detailed run down on how,why and what situations I've been thru to help you absorb what I am saying about burying your STUFF.
    Funny reading some of the comments knowing that not once have The "Commentors" have dealt with the DEA OR a task force.
    Smarten up or allow me to help you.
    Wardrobe, Closet, in your pocket, all dumb. Though safety deposit does seem ok but still risky as there are interactions with others and any warrant will get that box open. I only depend on my self for my safety. Another lesson costing 200k learned.
    I will send the details in 4 hours after I get JACKED and back to my office.
    I guess it has to do with not putting myself in the position to have to even worry about something like that. If you really are in such a situation that requires you to bury anything in your yard, then why even risk it? I know i would give up gear if it meant i had to be so paranoid to the point of burying it in my yard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjuice View Post
    Fellas,

    I'll give all of you the detailed run down on how,why and what situations I've been thru to help you absorb what I am saying about burying your STUFF.
    Funny reading some of the comments knowing that not once have The "Commentors" have dealt with the DEA OR a task force.
    Smarten up or allow me to help you.
    Wardrobe, Closet, in your pocket, all dumb. Though safety deposit does seem ok but still risky as there are interactions with others and any warrant will get that box open. I only depend on my self for my safety. Another lesson costing 200k learned.
    I will send the details in 4 hours after I get JACKED and back to my office.
    hey don i understand where your coming form totally.... but id much rather leace it at a friends house then dig up my gear ever other day. I have been set up and steaked out by police too and when they strike im alwasy like "wtf was i thinking? i coulda avoided taking this loss by not getting comfterble and complacent" lol

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    do you put it in a star wars lunch box when you bury it?

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    Gixxer... Your on the right path. Keep thinking this thru . Cause when the shit hits the fan you will go over every detailed to where or what ****ed you up.
    Guys here need to pay a little respect to your Suppliers.
    Don't see much of it.
    Then you get guys tying to barter prices , want it right now, deliver it now.
    All while there are guys out there risking for YOU.
    Making sure your gear is real. Safety in your source , price is right on.
    Same MF ers that don't put money on your books , write you and try to bang your girl while your out in the DOC.

    This comment is not directly towards you Gixxer. To the many of other dumb other Fuxxx with no understanding or respect for The Game.

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    ^^^ Oh I know. i was just having some fun. I know how it can be. i had a good scare once.
    A good friend of mine from HS became a cop. We lost touch over the years. He stopped at my house once after not talking for a few years. He told me he was now in the narcotics squad. He must have said to me 10 times that if people keep moving their stuff around they hardly get caught. That how many times they went on searches and the product wasnt there and they let the people go. He left and i never talked to him again. I took that as a big warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    ^^^ Oh I know. i was just having some fun. I know how it can be. i had a good scare once.
    A good friend of mine from HS became a cop. We lost touch over the years. He stopped at my house once after not talking for a few years. He told me he was now in the narcotics squad. He must have said to me 10 times that if people keep moving their stuff around they hardly get caught. That how many times they went on searches and the product wasnt there and they let the people go. He left and i never talked to him again. I took that as a big warning.
    haha yeah cops and freinds is kinda an oxy moron... they dont really mix.
    To don----- No money on the books sucks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad1986 View Post
    haha yeah cops and freinds is kinda an oxy moron... they dont really mix.
    To don----- No money on the books sucks!!!
    Agreed! But hey truth is I buried my gold and silver too ! Thus saving my ass in every way!

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    I had a close scare as well, I changed my forum name because of it.
    Still not positive that shit blew over but I've found quite a few different ways to hide large amounts of gear safely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjuice View Post
    Agreed! But hey truth is I buried my gold and silver too ! Thus saving my ass in every way!
    You have a buried treaure of gold and silver...are you some sort of 18th century pirate? lol

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    I want to reply properly as I said I would but typing on the little IPhone blows.Going to make a lot of long stories short here.
    Well at first when the pigs raided me 15 years ago while in college I had plenty of illegal goods in a large locking briefcase.
    Our house was on a steep hill. So we seen the Pigs. Running up the step lengthy steps, no backdoor to Jet out of so I took it and ran to the back room and out the window it went... Quickly pushing snow over it. They never found it! Thank the Lords! Idea !!
    Since then i just always decided to bury my goods. .
    2nd time 5 years later. Bounty hunters barge in at 6 am. Take me, checking everything! Closet , cloths, pockets , under the bed.... Nothing! But I still get taken in because my cousins Ex got pissed they broke up so the Bitch pulled my bond with no warning. I post a new bond 24hrs later. But no new charges. Hell Yea !
    3rd time.... Yes a 3rd time! Hatters! Good friend ( or so I thought prior) set me up.
    DEA raids my 2 million $ home tearing apart everything . I mean everything ... They also brought the Dogs! They went thru my duct work, sliced open my leather couches , took apart the refrigerator , sliced the , mattresses , panels off the cabinets. Cars in the garage BMW torn out.
    Obviously there we re watching me along with the rat out.
    Guess what ???? They got NOTHING. even with the Dogs. When your dog continually pisses on your " plant" in your back yard which sits so nicely over your stash. I don't know if it was sheer luck or the cop pulling on the dog or what but they released me after extensive questioning.
    Be it I did have the best attorneys $$ can buy.
    4th time . Set up Jacking. 20k on case on the line amongst other valuble goodies.
    What did those dumb Fxxxs get ? Zero! Lesson: while driving everything goes under the hood , no matter how small. The only reason ANY one gies there is cause they know it's there.

    Now I agree I was a dumb **** for continuing my actions for years. No excuse, but I was addicted to the $$$$ big $$$.
    Never even tried the many different goods.

    Life is very different these days. Outta the Game with a beautiful family that means a lot more than $$
    I'm free and clear. The minimal risk I take now to get Jacked on the Juice I pay others to take.
    Hell I even have a script from the Doc handy.

    Probably some questions or blanks to fill but I'm tapped out

    Lesson bury your SHIT for quick easy access.
    In a box, under a potted plant. Let your dog piss on it

    Cause really no one looks to get popped but when it happens you will mental kill yourself for the thoughtless laziness.

    Stay Free Brothers !

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    A pirate by some standards , yup! They couldn't seize or find my buried Gold and silver .
    Paid my attorneys while sitting in jail beat the case.. $ on the books and keeped a roof over the GF now wife's head.
    Cost 200k.
    = Fredom

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    Guys need to find legit doctors to help you with prescriptions!

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    Which is easy to do

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    So the answer to the original post is ....not a smart idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjuice View Post
    So the answer to the original post is ....not a smart idea.
    I still disagree with you in this particular case. The impression I got after reading the OP is that this guy is using steroids and wants to hide his usage from his med school roomies, not that he is a controlled substance trafficker. It seems to me you've spun the OP into your brand of advice for concealing amounts that would actually get you into real legal trouble. A few bottles of gear and PCT pills are not that serious... my ¢.02

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    Donjuice, it sounds like you were a big time dealer in some illicit substances. Guessing steroids . There's no reason to hide your stuff in the backyard if you're just a user. I have my vials just sitting on my computer table since I'm injecting everyday. The only reason a cop would come in here would be if they had a warrant. But there is absolutely zero change of them getting one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjuice View Post
    I want to reply properly as I said I would but typing on the little IPhone blows.Going to make a lot of long stories short here.
    Well at first when the pigs raided me 15 years ago while in college I had plenty of illegal goods in a large locking briefcase.
    Our house was on a steep hill. So we seen the Pigs. Running up the step lengthy steps, no backdoor to Jet out of so I took it and ran to the back room and out the window it went... Quickly pushing snow over it. They never found it! Thank the Lords! Idea !!
    Since then i just always decided to bury my goods. .
    2nd time 5 years later. Bounty hunters barge in at 6 am. Take me, checking everything! Closet , cloths, pockets , under the bed.... Nothing! But I still get taken in because my cousins Ex got pissed they broke up so the Bitch pulled my bond with no warning. I post a new bond 24hrs later. But no new charges. Hell Yea !
    3rd time.... Yes a 3rd time! Hatters! Good friend ( or so I thought prior) set me up.
    DEA raids my 2 million $ home tearing apart everything . I mean everything ... They also brought the Dogs! They went thru my duct work, sliced open my leather couches , took apart the refrigerator , sliced the , mattresses , panels off the cabinets. Cars in the garage BMW torn out.
    Obviously there we re watching me along with the rat out.
    Guess what ???? They got NOTHING. even with the Dogs. When your dog continually pisses on your " plant" in your back yard which sits so nicely over your stash. I don't know if it was sheer luck or the cop pulling on the dog or what but they released me after extensive questioning.
    Be it I did have the best attorneys $$ can buy.
    4th time . Set up Jacking. 20k on case on the line amongst other valuble goodies.
    What did those dumb Fxxxs get ? Zero! Lesson: while driving everything goes under the hood , no matter how small. The only reason ANY one gies there is cause they know it's there.

    Now I agree I was a dumb **** for continuing my actions for years. No excuse, but I was addicted to the $$$$ big $$$.
    Never even tried the many different goods.

    Life is very different these days. Outta the Game with a beautiful family that means a lot more than $$
    I'm free and clear. The minimal risk I take now to get Jacked on the Juice I pay others to take.
    Hell I even have a script from the Doc handy.

    Probably some questions or blanks to fill but I'm tapped out

    Lesson bury your SHIT for quick easy access.
    In a box, under a potted plant. Let your dog piss on it

    Cause really no one looks to get popped but when it happens you will mental kill yourself for the thoughtless laziness.

    Stay Free Brothers !
    Though it sounds like your situations may have needed the burying of your goods, i think i will pass on letting my dog piss on mine

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