dball and deca

[FCVtec]

i got my blood checked before i started everything is fine the doc says i'm in great health. liver tests, chol, bp, test all normal.
...i'm 7 - 8 weeks in..and you guys are all crying like a little school girl about to lose her virginity.

i will reach my goals and there is nothing you can do about it.. yes that guy took two years to reach his goals that is because he is a moron. He took two years. i will take 3 mnths...so why don't you all munch on the big one.

It is easy to be a know it all here..It's like taking candy from a baby...bunch of blind sheep..who can think freely...it doesn't matter if you guys get big..because you are all slaves and will die not even knowing how you followed wrong principles all your life. I just talked to my doc..he is having a good laugh at some of the info here.

You know what, you are right! Just up that "DBALL" to 100mgs ED and deca to 900mg/week and run it year round. You will bee 200 pounds in no time!! GO FOR IT MAN!

[FCVtec]

Just let me know when I need to come over to screw your wife cuz your pecker is dead and you have lost all the weight you put on and can no longer gain it back by eating more "DBALL" cuz your receptors are now fried. I'll give her something to think about.

[brad1986]

haha..i'm a nutritionist so i have a clean bill of health..i don't worry about the stuff u guys worry about. I eat good.
and everything is fine so the results say.. no limp dick for this guy...it is not steroids that cause limp dick it is your lack of knowledge.

If you eat sooo good and know so much about nutrition why couldnt you get your wieght up to 155 naturally??!! You should be able to get way bigger then that naturally (and leaner too) Your diet is probably lacking. To wiegh 138 to me says you are malnurished and know nothing about sports nutrition. This is a stupid cycle and nobody with a brain in there head would recomend you do anything except get off asap

[brad1986]

if you know about what defines a healthy person..then you would know that being a heavy weight does not equate to being healthy.. it comes down to muscular capacity, body fat percentage to mention a few. To judge someone on weight clearly shows your lack of understanding on the subject. I weight 154 and i curl 100lbs for reps..think about that. Pound for pound i am doing quite well.
Being 11 per cent body fat at age of 40. All levels normal at age 40..and juicing on and off through out the years. Winning wrestling medals since 16..plus I'm a personal trainer..just to mention a few things about me. Trust me i have been in the Iron game when you were in diapers. if you think you know something. I 'm pretty sure i can prove you wrong and throw your whole world upside down. I am here for one thing only...and still no answer....what is another compound that i can mix with deca after i stop my dball..don't say anadrol...and don't say test...i need opinions..and then i will tell u what the docs recommend. Don't take offense to any of this..everyone here gets so touchy when someone doesn't agree with them. Biologically speaking we are each unique individuals..how one reacts to something..someone else may have a different reaction. We are all chemically different per say..think about interactions..they will differ in each individual..so don't be blind sheep. because some says deca dick..doesn't mean you will get it..you May but some May NOT you cannot say everyone will get it. That is just ridiculous.

Did you come on here to get flamed or what? Your ignorant about nutrition and steroids i feel bad for you because you will hate life when you get off the dbol and deca . Whya re you against using test?? That shoulda been the only thing your ran for this cycle. Ittle feel nice when all this muscle you gain is lost post cycle. Whille wt doesnt define a helathy person... if you are a nutritionist you should have know how to incease your muscel mass and decrease bf without aas. You 138lbs dude???? What are you a jockey?!

[Deen54]

you are all over weight carry around water and fat..look at your body fat levels if they are not under 13 per cent..don't even talk to me. You are not in my league.

[ghettoboyd]

you are all over weight carry around water and fat..look at your body fat levels if they are not under 13 per cent..don't even talk to me. You are not in my league.

douchbag say's what?.....didnnt you get banned man for this same shit, you are nothing but a troll imo....have you ever had a convorsation in which you didnt argue?.....

[gixxerboy1]

you are all over weight carry around water and fat..look at your body fat levels if they are not under 13 per cent..don't even talk to me. You are not in my league.

lol and if you under 170 your not in mine.
I'm sure you will meet your goal. And im sure once you eventully come of you will loose most of it.

[Lemonada8]

You wont gain the same size when u stop DBOL , it puts alot of water in the muscle which adds weight.
Deca only is typically bad for most, but u seem to be fine... good for u.
as for what to add, test would be good, so would tren . but as for reaching a weight, there isnt anything else that will work the same for weight.
good luck with everything else.

[brad1986]

i got my blood checked before i started everything is fine the doc says i'm in great health. liver tests, chol, bp, test all normal.
...i'm 7 - 8 weeks in..and you guys are all crying like a little school girl about to lose her virginity.

i will reach my goals and there is nothing you can do about it.. yes that guy took two years to reach his goals that is because he is a moron. He took two years. i will take 3 mnths...so why don't you all munch on the big one.

It is easy to be a know it all here..It's like taking candy from a baby...bunch of blind sheep..who can think freely...it doesn't matter if you guys get big..because you are all slaves and will die not even knowing how you followed wrong principles all your life. I just talked to my doc..he is having a good laugh at some of the info here.

sounds like your talking about yourself right here... im confused.. btw unless your dr is an endocrinolagist i laugh at you for listening to him. At what point in medical school is steroid cycle saftey ever taught?? Thats like taking nutrition advise from a dr thats stupid. dr's arenot educated in nutrition or steroids unless that is there specialty. Who will have the last laugh when your dick doesnt work and your back wieghing in at 138lbs. you a skinny bitch and your wasting your time on this board. People here have real life experience and extensive research knowlege that far out ways a dr's advise who does not study these drugs or stay current on info regaurding pct ect

[brad1986]

you are all over weight carry around water and fat..look at your body fat levels if they are not under 13 per cent..don't even talk to me. You are not in my league.

hahaha dude your a funkin weeny!!! I was 155lbs my whole life untill i started learning how to diet now im 190lbs (natural at the moment) and 12%bf so eat a big one

[Deen54]

You see, i am not interested in being 200 lbs..it would not look good on me, not too mention it would be a health concern. Most People are overlooking some important points here. Not everyone is meant to be 200lbs and they should not strive for it. Health does not mean put on a lot of weight. Health is body fat levels and a weight that is somewhere within the bmi..These are made for a reason. I am talking about longevity and a healthy weight. The best position is being as light as possible with as much muscle as possible that is what good health is about. Not being as heavy as possible with as much muscle as possible, because at the end of the day, lots of weight means more health concerns. Understand the concept...light with as much muscle as possible. I know many will have a hard time wrapping there heads around that. But it's proven for a longer life. It makes sense think about it. The other think is juice is like an amplifier..think about it like this..if you are healthy you take juice, it works better. It amplifies you're already great health..growth promoting effects. If you are unhealthy and you take juice..problems arise..cholesterol, bp , test converts to estrogen, like a domino effect the sides start. You should always strive for health first. Everything else follows in place. Keeping healthy will cut down on your sides.
Listen I've done juice on and off..i am 40 i have a full head of hair, i have no bitch tits, i have normal test levels. Always think health first whenever you put something down your throat. I choose not to do test..it was a choice. I suffer no mood swings, no gyno, no water retention, no acne. i weighed the options and I am looking better every week. I will let you know how it goes.. Good luck to all....always remember.... health first...the rest follows.

[MBMETC]

Post pics let us see what a healthy 138lb man on roids looks like.

[Deen54]

maybe tonight...the deen is coming out!

[Deen54]

and please refrain from fondling yourselves. lol!

[MBMETC]

maybe tonight...the deen is coming out!

congradulations on accepting your gay and telling the world

[brad1986]

You see, i am not interested in being 200 lbs..it would not look good on me, not too mention it would be a health concern. Most People are overlooking some important points here. Not everyone is meant to be 200lbs and they should not strive for it. Health does not mean put on a lot of weight. Health is body fat levels and a weight that is somewhere within the bmi..These are made for a reason. I am talking about longevity and a healthy weight. The best position is being as light as possible with as much muscle as possible that is what good health is about. Not being as heavy as possible with as much muscle as possible, because at the end of the day, lots of weight means more health concerns. Understand the concept...light with as much muscle as possible. I know many will have a hard time wrapping there heads around that. But it's proven for a longer life. It makes sense think about it. The other think is juice is like an amplifier..think about it like this..if you are healthy you take juice, it works better. It amplifies you're already great health..growth promoting effects. If you are unhealthy and you take juice..problems arise..cholesterol, bp , test converts to estrogen, like a domino effect the sides start. You should always strive for health first. Everything else follows in place. Keeping healthy will cut down on your sides.
Listen I've done juice on and off..i am 40 i have a full head of hair, i have no bitch tits, i have normal test levels. Always think health first whenever you put something down your throat. I choose not to do test..it was a choice. I suffer no mood swings, no gyno, no water retention, no acne. i weighed the options and I am looking better every week. I will let you know how it goes.. Good luck to all....always remember.... health first...the rest follows.

If you dont want to get bigger then you naturally could then why are you using aas????!!!! If health is you number one conncern then plz explain why your staying on a cycle or oral steroids for so long?!!! Your either the biggest idiot/douch in the world or your just a troll with too much time on your hands. Your diet is shit/ your cycle is terrible/ and your asking questions when you have no intention on following any advise.. Whya re you still posting on here NOBODY is going to agree with you

[brad1986]

You see, i am not interested in being 200 lbs..it would not look good on me, not too mention it would be a health concern. Most People are overlooking some important points here. Not everyone is meant to be 200lbs and they should not strive for it. Health does not mean put on a lot of weight. Health is body fat levels and a weight that is somewhere within the bmi..These are made for a reason. I am talking about longevity and a healthy weight. The best position is being as light as possible with as much muscle as possible that is what good health is about. Not being as heavy as possible with as much muscle as possible, because at the end of the day, lots of weight means more health concerns. Understand the concept...light with as much muscle as possible. I know many will have a hard time wrapping there heads around that. But it's proven for a longer life. It makes sense think about it. The other think is juice is like an amplifier..think about it like this..if you are healthy you take juice, it works better. It amplifies you're already great health..growth promoting effects. If you are unhealthy and you take juice..problems arise..cholesterol, bp , test converts to estrogen, like a domino effect the sides start. You should always strive for health first. Everything else follows in place. Keeping healthy will cut down on your sides.
Listen I've done juice on and off..i am 40 i have a full head of hair, i have no bitch tits, i have normal test levels. Always think health first whenever you put something down your throat. I choose not to do test..it was a choice. I suffer no mood swings, no gyno, no water retention, no acne. i weighed the options and I am looking better every week. I will let you know how it goes.. Good luck to all....always remember.... health first...the rest follows.

Not True at all!! where do you get your information? Are you talking to dr suess?

[brad1986]

You see, i am not interested in being 200 lbs..it would not look good on me, not too mention it would be a health concern. Most People are overlooking some important points here. Not everyone is meant to be 200lbs and they should not strive for it. Health does not mean put on a lot of weight. Health is body fat levels and a weight that is somewhere within the bmi..These are made for a reason. I am talking about longevity and a healthy weight. The best position is being as light as possible with as much muscle as possible that is what good health is about. Not being as heavy as possible with as much muscle as possible, because at the end of the day, lots of weight means more health concerns. Understand the concept...light with as much muscle as possible. I know many will have a hard time wrapping there heads around that. But it's proven for a longer life. It makes sense think about it. The other think is juice is like an amplifier..think about it like this..if you are healthy you take juice, it works better. It amplifies you're already great health..growth promoting effects. If you are unhealthy and you take juice..problems arise..cholesterol, bp , test converts to estrogen, like a domino effect the sides start. You should always strive for health first. Everything else follows in place. Keeping healthy will cut down on your sides.
Listen I've done juice on and off..i am 40 i have a full head of hair, i have no bitch tits, i have normal test levels. Always think health first whenever you put something down your throat. I choose not to do test..it was a choice. I suffer no mood swings, no gyno, no water retention, no acne. i weighed the options and I am looking better every week. I will let you know how it goes.. Good luck to all....always remember.... health first...the rest follows.

If you believe this then why are you not running test?? why would you not post cycle?? Dont pull the bs health card because at 138 that is malnurished anorexic tweeker status

[FCVtec]

Post pics let us see what a healthy 138lb man on roids looks like.

I wish he would post the pics but we all know he wont.

[Bullseye Forever]

i think he's a little confused

[brad1986]

idk if this is a joke or not... but if your serious then send me your money and i "promise" ill get you what you need.lol.

[Matt]

Just letting everyone know that this thread is being watched and those that step over the "No flame" line will enjoy a banning...

[TheClinch]

i'm 40 i ain't recovering anymore. I'm getting too much compliments and the ladies are coming out of the wood works..i can't quit now.

..........

[Deen54]

i kept my word..yes i'm 40...

[TheClinch]

i kept my word..yes i'm 40...

Deen54 test really is a good idea. Your body is so resiliant against Deca 's suppressiveness why wouldn't trying test be a good idea? It's the base of any and all cycles because all AAS will shut down your natural testosterone so without it you only lose one more piece of the pie that can aid your growth.
Try test and tren on your next cycle.
P.S. If you have honestly seen clean and normal blood test results while cycling you're my idol! You should donate your body for hormonal testing because it would make you so unique.

If honestly you are not what you claim to be then do a proper PCT and talk to an Endocrinologist.

[Deen54]

i do plan on doing test closer to the end. I am going to start that soon and run deca up to 16 weeks. i know it would add some great mass and tremendous strength. Right now i feel great, so strong, lots of energy.I feel better now than in my 30's! yes those normal blood levels..i took a break off juice for about 1 month and everything came normal. I was surprised because i was on for a longer period than usual. I really think it comes down to health..even though we are eating a body building diet..always stay throw in a variety of fruits and vegetables. I snack on blueberries, drinks juice with antioxidants..go for fresh and organic..stay away from processed and refined. Remember genetics do play a part..we all have our strengths and weaknesses..know what yours is...and work on the weaknesses.

[Deen54]

one thing i never tried was tren ..what exactly is that suppose to do? why test and tren?

[RaZr]

I'm 5'7 192 pounds 12% bf and all natural... Eat a steak killer

[Deen54]

not bad at all.. i just bought 12 new york strips yesterday.

[TheClinch]

one thing i never tried was tren..what exactly is that suppose to do? why test and tren?

Tren is known to increase feed efficiency meaning you can continue to eat the low calorie diet, I am assuming you are eating based on your body weight to height ratio being on the lower side, and still most likely see an increase in lean muscle mass. I have seen my brother accomplish a respectable gain of 12lbs after ending cycle and going through a full PCT protocol with only a mediocre diet.
Some people call it the magic steroid because of its ability to completely redefine a persons body type so to speak.
You'll probably even notice an increase in vascularity like you have never seen before.

You can find a better description of Tren in the ASS profiles on the websites main page.

[TheClinch]

I feel compelled to recommend that you come off of AAS and do a proper and complete PCT protocol to increase the chances that you will be able to sustain natural testosterone production once you have reached the desired weight goal you have set and come off anyways. With the method of coming off and doing a PCT to stimulate your natural hormone system you will reach your goal in a safer manner than the continual cycle theory you seem to employ. You may take a little longer to get to your goal, that's true, but at least you will be able to maintain that new weight properly in a real healthy body after you're done using AAS. Otherwise, you will probably end up on TRT. Or you may in fact be one of the rarely heard from few that could use for an extended period of time and still bounce back. Assumptions are the bread of a sh!t sandwich though so the smarter way to use AAS is to err on the side of caution and walk the line.
You really need to consider this. If you are a reasonable guy you will do the right thing.

[Devil_Doc]

I feel compelled to recommend that you come off of AAS and do a proper and complete PCT protocol to increase the chances that you will be able to sustain natural testosterone production once you have reached the desired weight goal you have set and come off anyways.

Dude, I agree, but why does everyone feel so "compelled" to help this guy when he doesnt wanna help himself. Its different if its a kid that has to wear a helmet to the dinner table not to drown in his soup but (oops too similar) nevermind. I guess what im trying to say is that eventually when "women come out of the wood works" but no wood comes out of Deen he'll then realize, hey, i prolly should have listened to the people i asked advice from

[PK-V]

get down to the trt section

get your self on a low dose of test

and blast and cruise

your 40





JUST DO IT

[TheClinch]

Dude, I agree, but why does everyone feel so "compelled" to help this guy when he doesnt wanna help himself. Its different if its a kid that has to wear a helmet to the dinner table not to drown in his soup but (oops too similar) nevermind. I guess what im trying to say is that eventually when "women come out of the wood works" but no wood comes out of Deen he'll then realize, hey, i prolly should have listened to the people i asked advice from

We're supposed to be bros here. You wouldn't let your bro cross the highway without looking first so that's how I came across the urge to help. After that he can cross blind or with a clear view. Nature has a way of working itself out. We'll hear from this guy again i'm certain, unless he does the sensible thing.

[Deen54]

well today i got my first sign of a sore nipple...i haven't even been on deca for 10 weeks..only 7.
looks like i have to get nolva... possibly stop the cycle short... i was going to start test but if that converts to estrogen then it will be worse.

[TheClinch]

well today i got my first sign of a sore nipple...i haven't even been on deca for 10 weeks..only 7.
looks like i have to get nolva... possibly stop the cycle short... i was going to start test but if that converts to estrogen then it will be worse.

Deen, man, you don't have Nolvadex on hand? Good lord man get your Serm, AI, PCT game together!!

[Deen54]

dude i can get that in one day..no biggie

[TheClinch]

dude i can get that in one day..no biggie

Ever heard the song I got 99 problems but a b!tch ain't one? Anything can happen...

[Deen54]

i'll pick it up tomorrow.

[paulzane]

Just letting everyone know that this thread is being watched and those that step over the "No flame" line will enjoy a banning...

So Matt how come Deen aged 12 3/4 is still here?