19 and probably going on TRT, help?

**Flier** · 09-05-2011, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by lorden24

yea i know that, I'm just worried my doc is an idiot about it, who ever it turns out to be, my last was horrible and said the nip discharge is normal and that it's probably just a mental thing, despite all my symptoms given...

The symptoms you list can all come from depression.

**lorden24** · 09-05-2011, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Flier

The symptoms you list can all come from depression.

Yea I know that, and what's more confusing is I've dealt with depression and stress since I was 15...but what about the nipple dischare before? And it stopping after PCT, doesn't that show something hormonal was up?

**Flier** · 09-05-2011, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by lorden24

Yea I know that, and what's more confusing is I've dealt with depression and stress since I was 15...but what about the nipple dischare before? And it stopping after PCT, doesn't that show something hormonal was up?

Nipple discharge can come from a range of causes, even stress.
The only reason males have nipples is for us to lactate under the right conditions. During puberty most of us do.
Why it stopped after PCT.....maybe the meds removed all fluids from your glands (Which we all have and can squeeze out if we try hard enough).
Bloodwork!

**lorden24** · 09-05-2011, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Flier

Nipple discharge can come from a range of causes, even stress.
The only reason males have nipples is for us to lactate under the right conditions. During puberty most of us do.
Why it stopped after PCT.....maybe the meds removed all fluids from your glands (Which we all have and can squeeze out if we try hard enough).
Bloodwork!

hmm, then maybe that is what happened, i also think it may have had to do with some left over gyno. I know I had during puberty, well not 100%, but I'm pretty sure because I remember I use to have these big lumps that would hurt just to touch lightly.

**lorden24** · 09-05-2011, 05:33 PM

can anyone verify this, if I had low test, would I be able to get stronger and bigger naturally? Because I actually started making gains again less than two weeks post PCT, visual ones too. and I made gains before I became un natty.

**Flier** · 09-05-2011, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by lorden24

can anyone verify this, if I had low test, would I be able to get stronger and bigger naturally? Because I actually started making gains again less than two weeks post PCT, visual ones too. and I made gains before I became un natty.

Yes.

**lorden24** · 09-05-2011, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Flier

Yes.

damn, was hoping that would maybe rule it out for me. does anyone know how long on average it takes to get blood work back?

**gixxerboy1** · 09-05-2011, 06:40 PM

holy shit, everything is just a guess. just goto the doctors
how many times are you going to ask

**lorden24** · 09-05-2011, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

holy shit, everything is just a guess. just goto the doctors
how many times are you going to ask

i appreciate your help but do not understand your frustration, no one is making you answer my thread, if it's bothering you, don't bother with it.

**dec11** · 09-05-2011, 08:20 PM

i think one person is behind three trolls causing crap on this board tonight

**lorden24** · 09-05-2011, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

i think one person is behind three trolls causing crap on this board tonight

if your accusing me of being a troll could you stop? I'm not even sure how you can consider this post a troll post.

**gixxerboy1** · 09-05-2011, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by lorden24

i appreciate your help but do not understand your frustration, no one is making you answer my thread, if it's bothering you, don't bother with it.

cause your question was legitimate and answered to the best of anyone's ability. Asking thew same thing 200 times inst going to change the answers

**Honkey_Kong** · 09-06-2011, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by dec11

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...und-you./page2

*post 43*

Good work there, Inspector Dec11. I never would've bothered to catch it.

**Honkey_Kong** · 09-06-2011, 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by lorden24

does anyone else have any suggestions of what MAY be wrong? I suspect test, prolactin, pituitary, or thyroid.

After reading that other thread, I think your problem is you ran a ****ING CYCLE. What do you expect? The doctor is going to run a bunch of tests and compare them to your physical appearance and see if they correlate. Bottomline is he's going to know you took steroids and will just be like "stop juicing and you'll get better."

So you might as well save him the effort of Dr. Housing you. And you also might want to save your dad's chequebook in the process too and wait 6 months before you go.

**yungone501** · 09-06-2011, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

holy shit, everything is just a guess. just goto the doctors
how many times are you going to ask

My god, someone spoke with wisdom!

**yungone501** · 09-06-2011, 06:32 AM

Double post

**chuckt12345** · 09-06-2011, 12:35 PM

I just lost 20 iq points reading this

**Granovich** · 09-07-2011, 09:38 AM

im 23 and i f*cked my self with PH cycle
couldnt get erection for months
and even after agressive extensive PCT it took month to get back to normal, thats if im normal
next month i will do blood work. i had to use nolvadex clomid HCG . all kind of test boosters
its even worse than real steroids !

**Honkey_Kong** · 09-07-2011, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Granovich

im 23 and i f*cked my self with PH cycle
couldnt get erection for months
and even after agressive extensive PCT it took month to get back to normal, thats if im normal
next month i will do blood work. i had to use nolvadex clomid HCG . all kind of test boosters
its even worse than real steroids!

That sucks. Has to be worse than dying and going to hell. Have you tried Cialis or Viagra?

**yungone501** · 09-07-2011, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Granovich

its even worse than real steroids!

How would you know?

**Honkey_Kong** · 09-08-2011, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by yungone501

How would you know?

At 23? He's probably got 10 cycles under his belt. All orals though with no pct.

**lorden24** · 11-11-2011, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

After reading that other thread, I think your problem is you ran a ****ING CYCLE. What do you expect? The doctor is going to run a bunch of tests and compare them to your physical appearance and see if they correlate. Bottomline is he's going to know you took steroids and will just be like "stop juicing and you'll get better."

So you might as well save him the effort of Dr. Housing you. And you also might want to save your dad's chequebook in the process too and wait 6 months before you go.

big bump of course, but hey Honkey_Kong, F**K you man. Believe what you want but I've been totally honest with all my posting here, yes I ran a PH cycle underage, but as I said, the issues that I've told you all in the this thread all started happening WAAAAY before I even knew what prohormones were, or ever considered taking steroids. If your gonna come in here and give stupid opinions like the one I've quoted then please, f**k off and stop wasting your time.

**lorden24** · 11-11-2011, 09:26 AM

So like I said before, I've been having issues, all ones that would seem to be some type of hormone issue. Before my status was that I was trying to get insurance, and get into a doc's office and get some bloods done and see what the hell is going on.

As of now, I've got insurance, had my bloods done, and I'm awaiting to know my results. But there are issues with this (I swear when you learn a bit, you learn there a LOT of stupid docs). I'm not sure why he did this, but instead of getting a full blood screen done, he only tested me for these: Free test, thyroid, and prolactin. And what is scary is I'm not sure what he would have done had I not told him what I've been reading and suspect...for example, I'm sure he wouldn't have tested prolactin had I not said something about it. Why did he not have my total test, or estrogen looked at? I'm really pissed about that, and frankly I'm now quite worried that like a lot of guys who go to the doc with hormone issues, mine are not being, or will be dealt with correctly. All I can do now is wait for him to call and hope for the best...

Does anyone have a theory as to why he would be so stupid and not test other important things that may have a role in me losing my libido at 17?

**leobol** · 11-11-2011, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by lorden24

So like I said before, I've been having issues, all ones that would seem to be some type of hormone issue. Before my status was that I was trying to get insurance, and get into a doc's office and get some bloods done and see what the hell is going on.

As of now, I've got insurance, had my bloods done, and I'm awaiting to know my results. But there are issues with this (I swear when you learn a bit, you learn there a LOT of stupid docs). I'm not sure why he did this, but instead of getting a full blood screen done, he only tested me for these: Free test, thyroid, and prolactin. And what is scary is I'm not sure what he would have done had I not told him what I've been reading and suspect...for example, I'm sure he wouldn't have tested prolactin had I not said something about it. Why did he not have my total test, or estrogen looked at? I'm really pissed about that, and frankly I'm now quite worried that like a lot of guys who go to the doc with hormone issues, mine are not being, or will be dealt with correctly. All I can do now is wait for him to call and hope for the best...

Does anyone have a theory as to why he would be so stupid and not test other important things that may have a role in me losing my libido at 17?

Dude, anything could be causing that. Low test could be one factor, but who knows what's going on in your body or you brain for that matter. The doctor will figure it out with the blood work -- that is all. If you don't trust the doctor, just post your bloods on here after and thats all we can help you with. If you previously did a cycle, you may have f*cked up badly. Really who knows, you just have to wait.

**lorden24** · 11-11-2011, 10:54 AM

I've ran one cycle, I know it wasn't a smart move, but I'm sure you all understand taking big steps to get your body where you want to be. But I just want to clarify it again, the cycle is not the cause of my symptoms, it can't be. I started experiencing the symptoms a few months after I turned 17, I ran the cycle one month before I turned 19. The cycle I did was the most mild thing in the world, and I'm not even sure I was fully shut down honestly...the gains were weak, I had no ball shrinking, and I made gains in PCT. I feel the same way I did before I ran the PH, so really I'm pretty sure that it did nothing harmful to me for now.

**MikeRazz** · 11-11-2011, 12:00 PM

OP, im 23 and just came off of TRT a month ago. I started it because i did 2 cycles of PH's without doing proper research, now im paying for it. Fortunately my test and other hormone levels are back in normal range and stable but at 23 TRT should not have been an option for me. Just because you see guys in great shape and with the build you want, do not think that test injections at 19 are the answer. before you do anything get seen by an endocronologist, trust me.

**wkwkw** · 11-11-2011, 11:06 PM

this is absolutely ridiculous, if you say your symptoms werent from your cycle then the first thing that pops into mind is depression. just wait till you get your bloods back.