Clen is overrated

[Bulkn]

Elaborate please..........

Pretty sure I remember reading a study somewhere that the benadryl thing is a myth and only keto actually works.

[Bonaparte]

a lot of supp companys are starting to use it, i know its in oxy elite pro, muscle spike(one of my favorite pre-workouts) and i was told that you can order just the powder in bulk for pretty cheap

This. You can buy it on a few supp sites for a couple dollars per gram.
A lot of the better pre-workout supps also include it (Jack3d comes to mind).
And Ergopharm Clearshot obviously, as that is how Pat Arnold first introduced it to the supp world.

[PK-V]

^^ the stuff got pulled recently from a lot of supplements

buy some bulk power soon methinks

[user12345]

As a golden rule, I don't use clen . It isn't legal, so you don't know what you're getting. Stick to ephedrine.

[spykemalo]

Please do some more research on 1, 3 Dimeth
It is the primary active compound in the pre-workout Jacked. A substance that gives you energy and focus without the jitters of regular pre-workouts.
More modern studies are highlighting its dangers that were unknown before. Many veteran bodybuilders at my gym who hit up 1000mg Test per week in their cycles are not willing to touch 1, 3 Dimeth.
Buddy of mine at work ended up in hospital with cardiac arrest about 45 mins. after taking 3 scoops of the stuff.
It is not very good for your heart and your central nervous system, especially if you are older.

Essentially you can look at it as a pre-cursor or a close relative to a basic amphetamine, but not nearly as strong.
Be careful

[ata1979]

never been a big fan of clen . I have always preferred formoterol. IMHO, I think formoterol is far superior to clen because you get the energy, weight loss/fat burning and bronchilator benefits without the jitters and the heart palpitations.

[Bulkn]

^Interesting, im gonna look into that.

[ata1979]

Check out Oxis Turbohaler by Astra Zeneca. I enjoy it alot, really boosts my cardio performance. BTW its an inhaler not pills.