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    Quote Originally Posted by user12345
    I don't mean to be rude here, but this is just too much writing. Keep it simpler in the future and more people will help.
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    Honestly, if your TRT is 200mg/wk, then you'll need to bump it up to more than 400mg/wk to see any real results.

    You could try a blast at 600mg/wk and see how that goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClinch View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    well, my comment was on a general level, there are exceptions. the thing to measure is "Free" test, not total test. What are your free test levels?
    Here were the results from August 4th blood work

    Testosterone , Free 211.8 Range 46.0-224.0 pg/mL
    Testosterone , Bioavalable 490.8 Range 110.0-575.0 ng/dL
    Sex Hormone Binding Globulin 24 Range 10-50 nmol/L

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    Honestly, if your TRT is 200mg/wk, then you'll need to bump it up to more than 400mg/wk to see any real results.

    You could try a blast at 600mg/wk and see how that goes.
    Thank you for the suggestion.

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    I would assume that with the added Test quantity per week my Anastrozole dosage needs to go up also? I have always heard it is 1mg AI per 100mg of Test. Is this pretty much correct?

    Do you also add AI dosage for the mg's of another compound if I decide to add one?

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    Be careful with the AI. I tried 12.5mg Liquidex every other day once, and it made my joints hurt. I stopped and the pain went away. I am almost positive that I didn't need it and all I did was drop my E too low.

    I wouldn't add another compound. Test alone will have a huge effect. Don't go crazy.
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    Thanks a lot for the help guys. Any more suggestions/opinions would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    Honestly, if your TRT is 200mg/wk, then you'll need to bump it up to more than 400mg/wk to see any real results.

    You could try a blast at 600mg/wk and see how that goes.
    do you think he needs 600 with what his goals are. They are pretty modest thats why i recommended 400.

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    I figure 600 is just going to blow me up with water weight and increase my acne.

    Let ne put this question out there. Let's say starting in November I start cutting and lose 20 pounds of fat but maintain muscle, should I do a cycle to put on muscle and then maybe do something before summer for a cutting cycle? Or will that not be enough time in between blast?

    Maybe I am going about this a**backwards.

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    Bump

    Am I doing this backwards guys? Should I bulk or go ahead and try to cut and lose some fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1;5***091
    do you think he needs 600 with what his goals are. They are pretty modest thats why i recommended 400.
    I agree with you guys that with his modest goals, he probably doesn't even need to up his TRT dose and cycle.

    But if he does, he'll need to raise it more than 200mg/wk. (In fact, my 600mg is conservative, which I why I added the caveat, "see how that goes").

    At least, that's been my experience on TRT. Slight raises in test dose really don't have much effect at all (sides or gains).

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOSUPERMODEL;5***987
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    Am I doing this backwards guys? Should I bulk or go ahead and try to cut and lose some fat.
    Cut first.

    Getting leaner creates a perfect anabolic environment for growth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    Cut first.

    Getting leaner creates a perfect anabolic environment for growth.
    Agreeing with above. Not only is his statement correct, but why gain muscle only to lose some of it when doing a later cut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M;5***997
    I agree with you guys that with his modest goals, he probably doesn't even need to up his TRT dose and cycle.

    But if he does, he'll need to raise it more than 200mg/wk. (In fact, my 600mg is conservative, which I why I added the caveat, "see how that goes").

    At least, that's been my experience on TRT. Slight raises in test dose really don't have much effect at all (sides or gains).
    shows how everyone is different. I jump to 500mg from my 200mg every 10 days on trt and can tell a big difference

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    ^^ yup

    For OP,, ill state it again,, for the goals you are looking for i would keep test at 200mg and try a diff compound. var, mast, primo etc

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    Thanks guys for the opinions. I have so many questions as I have never done this before. I certainly don't want to lose any muscle mass that I have now but it sounds like I am probably going to lose some before I decide to do my blast in January. Maybe I can lose enough in November and December naturally that I can do a bulk in January instead of looking at an AAS that will help me lean up. I would much rather lose it naturally then be able to bulk up with an AAS blast.

    I have about 2.5 months to see how much I can cut naturally and decide what I want to do in January. Until then I am going to keep researching and asking questions.

    Thanks again and feel free to keep adding suggestions.

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