Sus250 first cycle - advice!

**Squawks** · 03-07-2012, 12:14 AM

Going to be running a 10week cycle of sus250 (first cycle)

500mg a week monday morning & thursday night! (250mg per shot)

Diet and training is in check!!

Don't want to take any chances with gyno, so i will be taking letro @ 0.25 from day 1.

Lowering dosage after last pin for 1-2 weeks coming of it slowly!!

then starting liquid tamox (nolva) 21 days after last pin @ 40mg/20mg/20mg!!

Question: should I start nolva sooner and not worry about lowering letro as much, I just hear it has hard side effects coming straight off with estrogen rebound!!

Any advice & thoughts would be great

92kg 10% bf 6ft1

**Razor** · 03-07-2012, 12:20 AM

.25mg of letro how many times a week?
Why are you not using clomid or torem as well with nova?

**Squawks** · 03-07-2012, 01:10 AM

I was going to run it ed to start, seeing I already have a small lump under my right nipple and i think prevention could be the best cure in this situation ?

Just thinking i could get away with it just running nolva, seeing its not the longest cycle!!

but now you have me thinking seeing its my first cycle i dont know how my body will react, maybe stacking clomid and nolva first time wouldnt be such a bad idea thoughts?

**The Situation** · 03-07-2012, 01:17 AM

Pct needs to be started two weeks after your last pin. Run Nolva 40,40,20,20 clomid 50,50,50,50.

**Razor** · 03-07-2012, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by The Situation

Pct needs to be started two weeks after your last pin. Run Nolva 40,40,20,20 clomid 50,50,50,50.

off of that cycle you do not need to run clomid at 50mg for 4 weeks.its overkill..50/50/25/25 is fine and with the nova. 40/40/20/20 is fine too

**Squawks** · 03-07-2012, 01:28 AM

Thanks a lot, Thoughts on running letro through out the cycle?

**Razor** · 03-07-2012, 01:30 AM

I dont use it..xelnaga uses it and is very knowledgeable about it...I run adex or aromisan..
adex is easier to dial in..you can start with .25 EOD or 3Xweek..if its too much and you get ED loose motivation for sex you back off.

**The Situation** · 03-07-2012, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Razr.

off of that cycle you do not need to run clomid at 50mg for 4 weeks.its overkill..50/50/25/25 is fine and with the nova. 40/40/20/20 is fine too

I've seen a lot of people do it this way even with just basic test cycles. How is it an overkill?

**songdog** · 03-07-2012, 12:46 PM

Beacuse it is really strong shit bro.

**Squawks** · 03-07-2012, 04:56 PM

Update:

weeks 1-10 - 500mg sus250 per week -mon -thursday 250mg each injection.
weeks 1-10 - .25mg ed letro (depending on how i feel, will back off if sex drive lowers)

PCT 2 weeks after last pin

Nolva - 40/40/20/20
Clomid - 50/50/25/25

Diet and training in check!!!

Should I slowly back off Letro till pct or stop after last pin? Final Thoughts?

**gixxerboy1** · 03-07-2012, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by The Situation

Pct needs to be started two weeks after your last pin. Run Nolva 40,40,20,20 clomid 50,50,50,50.

please make sure you give out correct information.

the correct time to start pct after sust is 18 days

**Squawks** · 03-08-2012, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

please make sure you give out correct information.

the correct time to start pct after sust is 18 days

Thanks for clearing that up !!! Anyone have advice with what i should do regarding letro after last pin come of it slowly till pct or just stop after last pin?

**Squawks** · 03-26-2012, 11:11 PM

bump

**JDBeretta** · 03-26-2012, 11:45 PM

Why do I feel I was yelled at reading this thread?

WHY!!!?

**Squawks** · 03-27-2012, 12:08 AM

Dont know

**ghettoboyd** · 03-27-2012, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by Razr.

off of that cycle you do not need to run clomid at 50mg for 4 weeks.its overkill..50/50/25/25 is fine and with the nova. 40/40/20/20 is fine too

agreed...

**NotConvincedYet** · 03-27-2012, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

please make sure you give out correct information.

the correct time to start pct after sust is 18 days

Why 18 days and not 14 like the usual recommended?

Squawks good luck with your cycle. As a bit of motivation I just finished my sust 10 week cycle, it was my first ever. Went from 180 to 195lbs. Am now a week away from PCT. Still gaining strength, still maintaining size. I didn't use adex or any other AI during as I didn't have a need, but have it on hand in case. The only problem I had/have is back acne. Annoying. Skin was glowing for 5 weeks then it goes to acne!

All the best.

**gixxerboy1** · 03-27-2012, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by NotConvincedYet

Why 18 days and not 14 like the usual recommended?

pct start time varies but what you are using and the amount of time it is active in your system after yuor last injection. so sust has longer esters so it active longer then test enanthate

**NotConvincedYet** · 03-27-2012, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

pct start time varies but what you are using and the amount of time it is active in your system after yuor last injection. so sust has longer esters so it active longer then test enanthate

Cheers. Makes perfect sense really.