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    Proper Pct for 12 wk test prop cycle

    Guys could someone help me with a proper pct .. This is currenty my second cycle as first time around I did not pct right... So I would like some feedback before I start a cycle of test prop for 12 weeks ...

    Clomid
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    Any specific amounts?

    Any specific things to consider on cycle or off besides pct ?

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    What are your stats?

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    I suggest you wait another 1.5 - 2 years before you cycle again. This will give you plenty of time to research. The PCT you suggest is inadequate.

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    I'm asking for help with pct not an *** remark ... My stats are 25 , been lifting for 7 years , diet is in check , I work construction so I
    Lift heavy all day..I'm about 5"10 I weigh about 185 and about 9% bodyfat .. This is My second cycle I've about to run

    Prop 50mg Ed or 100mg eod


    Please help with proper pct

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    Nolvadex : 20mg for 4 weeks should be good enough.

    Oh wait you have dex and clomid and hcg only? In that case, I'd use either 50mg of clomid every day for 4 weeks, or do 1000ius of hcg every third day with arimidex .25mg every other day and clomid 50mgs for 3 weeks AFTER the hcg and dex is finished.
    Last edited by LolWuter; 05-02-2012 at 12:59 PM.

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    nolvadex /clomid every dAY FOR 4-6 WEEKS MATE 40/40/20/20 50/50/25/25 THIS SHOULD BE THE ANSWER YOUR LOOKING FOR MATE LOL

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    You should be using hcg through out your cycle 2 x 250iu a week one every 3 days are you near your end now bud???

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    I just started up .. I am 2 weeks in

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    Ok mate grab your nolvadex and youll be fine at the end m8 you do need it really and its easy to get so see if you can bud!

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    Also after my last shot when should I start pct and my hcg shots should I raise them after my last shot ?

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    hcg if using throughout cycle is not needed during pct so pct starts 3 days after your last shot bud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CmyZFly View Post
    I'm asking for help with pct not an *** remark ... My stats are 25 , been lifting for 7 years , diet is in check , I work construction so I
    Lift heavy all day..I'm about 5"10 I weigh about 185 and about 9% bodyfat .. This is My second cycle I've about to run

    Prop 50mg Ed or 100mg eod


    Please help with proper pct
    He didn't give you an "*** remark" he gave you good advice in a respectful & polite manner. You're not 25 you're 23 & you're a liar..................how's that for an "*** remark"

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    Your telling me how old I. Am?

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    Don't forget the liar part...................I'm calling you a liar too.
    Quote Originally Posted by CmyZFly View Post
    My Body Fat is about 9%, I'm currently 23 years old and I'm looking to bulk. I weigh about 183 pounds to 185 pounds but that tends up go up and down...

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    Dude first off this is a information board where people are suppose to ask questions , second it's non of your business how old I am ... I asked a question ... Posted my stats and wanted to find out information... If your that presistant on commenting on a thread that you have no good information to share than you should probably stfu and not comment at all... Simple as that

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    Lmao.

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    he has already started his cycle. there is no point in repeating he is to young and all that stuff. tell him once he made a bad choice if you wish then help him out with some pct so he doesnt do it wrong. think about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by binsser View Post
    nolvadex/clomid every dAY FOR 4-6 WEEKS MATE 40/40/20/20 50/50/25/25 THIS SHOULD BE THE ANSWER YOUR LOOKING FOR MATE LOL
    and here is what you came for

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    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by CmyZFly View Post
    Dude first off this is a information board where people are suppose to ask questions , second it's non of your business how old I am ... I asked a question.....Posted my stats and wanted to find out information... If your that presistant on commenting on a thread that you have no good information to share than you should probably stfu and not comment at all... Simple as that
    I have plenty of "good information to share", just not with people looking for cycle advice under the age of 25, or people that lie about their stats to gain advice they know they wouldn't get otherwise. You got busted lying & now you think you can turn the tables on me & me the bad guy...............that's hilarious. Truth is, 90% of the board feels the same way I do. With the exception of a careless few a you can see. You have made an immature, foolish decision, good luck to you. Stop lying to people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standby View Post
    he has already started his cycle. there is no point in repeating he is to young and all that stuff. tell him once he made a bad choice if you wish then help him out with some pct so he doesnt do it wrong. think about it
    Just because he stupidly started his cycle, doesn't mean I'm suddenly forced to advise him, I stand my ground, I WILL NOT give cycle advice to anyone under 25, if these kids ignorantly insist on fvcking themselves up, I refuse to be a part of it, & again, 90% of the board feels the same way........................with the exception of a careless few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    Just because he stupidly started his cycle, doesn't mean I'm suddenly forced to advise him, I stand my ground, I WILL NOT give cycle advice to anyone under 25, if these kids ignorantly insist on fvcking themselves up, I refuse to be a part of it, & again, 90% of the board feels the same way........................with the exception of a careless few.
    thats where your wrong. this boards goal is to steer the young away from using aas. but the ones that do and need help we dont just point in there face and laugh and say oh well. matter of fact here is a post from Matt

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    Why on earth would we do that???

    We welcome the younger members whether they cycle or not, if you feel they shouldn't be cycling then make your point in a concise and constructive manner. Any member under 25 seeking cycle advice will receive all the help they need including "how to cycle as safely as possible"...
    if you decide not to help him then go for it but your reason is stupid.

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    The Bear is literally the worst poster I've seen so far. He won't even give PCT advice to somebody whose of age to cycle. PCT ADVICE for god's sake.

    And the Branch Warren avatar makes it funnier.

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    Agree with the last two posts. OP you received some good advice from some of the better and more knowledgable people posting here. Get your order in, get your pct product in. Run your HCG . You should recover. But jumping into cycle two because your first cycles pct was less then perfect isn't going to make this go around any easier to recover from. Don't give into temptation if things are rough going the first few weeks of pct. Doing so will just keep increasing the risks you will end up on hrt for life.
    Last edited by swm1972; 05-02-2012 at 07:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standby View Post
    thats where your wrong. this boards goal is to steer the young away from using aas. but the ones that do and need help we dont just point in there face and laugh and say oh well. matter of fact here is a post from Matt .if you decide not to help him then go for it but your reason is stupid.
    Just because Matt says so, doesn't make it a rule, I dint have to advise anyone I don't want to.

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    Geez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LolWuter View Post
    The Bear is literally the worst poster I've seen so far. He won't even give PCT advice to somebody whose of age to cycle. PCT ADVICE for god's sake.

    And the Branch Warren avatar makes it funnier.
    He IS NOT of age. And lets compare post history's & let the board take a vote on the "worst poster".........lol..........you're an uneducated, inexperienced, bull sh!t spewing clown, & everyone knows it.

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    And yet another useless thread I am done with & wont return to.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by LolWuter
    Nolvadex : 20mg for 4 weeks should be good enough.

    Oh wait you have dex and clomid and hcg only? In that case, I'd use either 50mg of clomid every day for 4 weeks, or do 1000ius of hcg every third day with arimidex .25mg every other day and clomid 50mgs for 3 weeks AFTER the hcg and dex is finished.
    Bad advise^^^^^

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    Advice*

    How is it bad advice to do hcg for 3 weeks if he didn't use it during cycle? Then do your pct? That's actually what many members of this board follow? But since he's midway through his cycle he could start using it now.

    As for The Bear, there are many endos that agree with my point of view, and being 23 is of age as being 25 isn't really that much of a difference. This is the prime time for him to cycle. And be that as it may, how would you not give him PCT advice, so he won't take as while to get back to normal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79
    He IS NOT of age. And lets compare post history's & let the board take a vote on the "worst poster".........lol..........you're an uneducated, inexperienced, bull sh!t spewing clown, & everyone knows it.
    There goes 'personal attack not being welcome on this board'......

    Hitler once had a strong following. Didn't make him or his beliefs any less disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79
    And yet another useless thread I am done with & wont return to.............
    And we will all be better for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bear 79 View Post
    Just because Matt says so, doesn't make it a rule, I dint have to advise anyone I don't want to.
    had nothing to do with "matt said so" and i didnt want thing to turn around on attacking you. i simply rather see people that are to far past the dont do a cycle youll regret it stage get a good pct going and hope they learn and dont do it again

    and i said if you choose not to help him then so be it. if anything you showed his lie and thats pretty funny

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    Deadlyd what do you recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LolWuter View Post
    The Bear is literally the worst poster I've seen so far. He won't even give PCT advice to somebody whose of age to cycle. PCT ADVICE for god's sake.

    And the Branch Warren avatar makes it funnier.
    thats the stupidest thing iv heard. "The Bear 79" is probably the only bit of the few posters we have that will refuse to help those under age maybe the youth might get the idea next time "hey they wont help those guys cycle so whos going to help me? oh no one? better not cycle then" but its a piety the board is filled with ignorance fools that attempt to seek advice on the matter mid way through their cycle, which then it isnt Bears fault for not wanting to help. Clearly the OP should of investigated the matter before he pinned or should have got the idea he was too young and shouldn't of pinned at all! Dont worry bear i may be of under-age but i understand where your coming from with this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bevsta123

    thats the stupidest thing iv heard. "The Bear 79" is probably the only bit of the few posters we have that will refuse to help those under age maybe the youth might get the idea next time "hey they wont help those guys cycle so whos going to help me? oh no one? better not cycle then" but its a piety the board is filled with ignorance fools that attempt to seek advice on the matter mid way through their cycle, which then it isnt Bears fault for not wanting to help. Clearly the OP should of investigated the matter before he pinned or should have got the idea he was too young and shouldn't of pinned at all! Dont worry bear i may be of under-age but i understand where your coming from with this!
    Fortunately, he is in the extreme minority on that matter. Once the damage is done trying to get the guy on the right track seems like the right thing to do. Bear made a post that he doesn't have to prove the 25y/o theory because it's the responsible thing to do and that it was the right thing to do because he cares about people and them not messing themselves up. This sounds contradictory to his original statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CmyZFly
    Deadlyd what do you recommend?
    A typical PCT is 4 weeks nolvadex
    40/40/20/20
    4 weeks Clomid
    100/100/50/50

    Hcg fro entire cycle or last 3 weeks leading to pct @ 250iu 2x week

    AI for entire cycle up until pct.
    Arimadex @ .25mgs eod is a good start

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    Quote Originally Posted by binsser
    nolvadex/clomid every dAY FOR 4-6 WEEKS MATE 40/40/20/20 50/50/25/25 THIS SHOULD BE THE ANSWER YOUR LOOKING FOR MATE LOL
    ^^^^^this is good too, sorry binsser didn't read all the posts.

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