Is this guy on steroids?

[sharmabrah]

I've followed this guy on facebook and formspring a fair bit and he has always, and I mean always strongly denied any use of AAS. I find this hard to believe. He has a very strict diet (he posts his cutting and bulking diets as well as posting some training routines on facebook) but surely he couldn't look the way he does just with a good diet. Also he only turned twenty three this year. Please just have a look at the pictures and videos I post below.

Seeing as most of you guys on here could probably tell if someone was on the juice, I just want your opinion on the guy (called Naso). Here are some pics:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater.
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=na...9,r:1,s:0,i:76.
http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=na...r:10,s:0,i:104.

Here are some videos too, this first one is from SBS (a TV station in Australia, LOL at how they portray bodybuilding in a negative light they are a joke):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw9XvPEcGn0.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6GS4a97prI.

Taking into account he only turned twenty three this year, and look when he was seventeen that's got to be a load of bullshit! And he claims to be six foot one, bullshit if you were that big at seventeen son! This isn't meant to be a phaggy time thread I don't want any negative comments towards me, just want your opinions cause I could swear this kid is juicing but just want some answers from first hand users.

[gixxerboy1]

sorry but whats with guys from Australia following other guys and constantly checking them out

[warchild]

who cares?

[sharmabrah]

who cares?

I don't care, but I just wanted some opinions for **** sake, can't be that too hard to ask. He just strongly denies it and I find it insecure if you can't admit to steroid use .

[gixxerboy1]

^^^ then atleast post stuff like this in the lounge.
why do you care if he is insecure or not. Honestly it sound like you are insecure. He probably is bigger then you and you want to feel more secure by saying well he is on steroids . Cause if he isnt then you could look like that too and you feel bad because you dont

[sharmabrah]

sorry but whats with guys from Australia following other guys and constantly checking them out

No homo, if he is natural at only twenty three then good on him - I'm admiring. But if he isn't natural and can't admit it then he's insecure. He replies to people asking how are you on steroids with "haters gonna hate" or something along those lines. And when someone asked him if they should take clenbuterol he said "no, it makes your heart larger", how else would he know this?

[Wazzap]

I don't care, but I just wanted some opinions for **** sake, can't be that too hard to ask. He just strongly denies it and I find it insecure if you can't admit to steroid use.

You obviously care since you made this thread, phaggot (lol j/k). Please stop using misc lingo here.

[gixxerboy1]

maybe he isnt stupid and going to put on face book that he is taking illegal drugs

[sharmabrah]

^^^ then atleast post stuff like this in the lounge.
why do you care if he is insecure or not. Honestly it sound like you are insecure. He probably is bigger then you and you want to feel more secure by saying well he is on steroids. Cause if he isnt then you could look like that too and you feel bad because you dont

LOL that is one big assumption. Why is it so hard for you people to answer a simple question? Jesus christ these boards are a joke sometimes. And sure he is bigger than me, he is no doubt more aesthetic than you mate. But if he got there with steroids then I'm laughing, cause he will have ****ed himself up and I'll be staying natural and getting to that size in four years anyway - I can wait unlike some.

[sharmabrah]

maybe he isnt stupid and going to put on face book that he is taking illegal drugs

Yeah this is true. I just wasn't sure mate that's all. Says he trains six times a week so no doubt his recovery must be great lol.

[< <Samson> >]

I compare myself to other people a bit, but still - who cares.

Most likely on juice though if it matters.

[gixxerboy1]

LOL that is one big assumption. Why is it so hard for you people to answer a simple question? Jesus christ these boards are a joke sometimes. And sure he is bigger than me, he is no doubt more aesthetic than you mate. But if he got there with steroids then I'm laughing, cause he will have ****ed himself up and I'll be staying natural and getting to that size in four years anyway - I can wait unlike some.

actually we look pretty similar. if he is 6'0 he is bigger then me, he looks good, im not taking anything away from him, steroids or not. I dont get why it bothers you. why worry about other people

[AcquireMass]

LOL that is one big assumption. Why is it so hard for you people to answer a simple question? Jesus christ these boards are a joke sometimes. And sure he is bigger than me, he is no doubt more aesthetic than you mate. But if he got there with steroids then I'm laughing, cause he will have ****ed himself up and I'll be staying natural and getting to that size in four years anyway - I can wait unlike some.

Aren't you the xyzz nuthugger? Stop worrying about other people and worry about doing your own thing and being the best you can be(natty or not).

[sharmabrah]

Aren't you the xyzz nuthugger? Stop worrying about other people and worry about doing your own thing and being the best you can be(natty or not).

This is Naso you illiterate ****. I'm not one of the Zyzz fan boys. Everyone has people they look up to in the gym for **** sake. You are ignorant to think that they don't. Older people who take bodybuilding seriously have people like Arnold, Frank etc who they look up to (depending on their own height and physique) and younger people like seeing what Naso and other young people their age have accomplished. He does similar things to what I do (play soccer and still be big, lift weights, go clubbing and to festivals) so I can relate to his lifestyle. You are just a dumb **** mate. I don't worship Zyzz or Naso - I can just relate to the latter which is why he's an admiration for me and quite a few others (even more so if natural).

[dooie]

Like others said,
Who cares!

But he isn't massive, he doesn't have alot of muscle mass, he has a good body, and when I was 23 I wasn't far off him, he has better genetics than I do though,

If he is on the juice, he is hindering his gains trying to look natty haha

This could be done, with proper diet!
You will never know what he has used unless he says it himself, so who cares!
Train hard and eat like a horse!

[sharmabrah]

Like others said,
Who cares!

But he isn't massive, he doesn't have alot of muscle mass, he has a good body, and when I was 23 I wasn't far off him, he has better genetics than I do though,

If he is on the juice, he is hindering his gains trying to look natty haha

This could be done, with proper diet!
You will never know what he has used unless he says it himself, so who cares!
Train hard and eat like a horse!

Yeah I don't care, I was JUST WONDERING. Jesus people on these boards don't seem to understand this (not aiming at you). Yeah I'm only twenty and with this new diet I've created I hope I can get to somewhere near him at twenty three - I would be pretty satisfied. I just don't see why he should deny it. One thing I don't understand though is the term genetics. It is used so much. Does it mean that only people with broad shoulders, have a v-shape and have narrow waists are the only ones who can go to the gym?

[ADSONE]

Not sure, but it looks like it...and def. Needs to hop of zyzz dick....

[dooie]

Yeah I don't care, I was JUST WONDERING. Jesus people on these boards don't seem to understand this (not aiming at you). Yeah I'm only twenty and with this new diet I've created I hope I can get to somewhere near him at twenty three - I would be pretty satisfied. I just don't see why he should deny it. One thing I don't understand though is the term genetics. It is used so much. Does it mean that only people with broad shoulders, have a v-shape and have narrow waists are the only ones who can go to the gym?

Yeah I understand what your saying, this build is a perfect build to aim for naturally IMO before you start steroids ! Try aim for this!

For Me good genetics are
Things such as:
Great p-ratio (the way you partion cals)
More fast twitch muscle fibres
Full muscle bellies
Small waist, things like skeleton widths/proportions & muscle insertions & bellies
Etc etc

In the end you work with what you're given so who cares.

Although It's kind of all of those things....if you have great structure but have terrible genes for putting on muscle and can never seem to add to your frame what's needed, then although you have great structure/aestheticism/muscle bellies etc....they won't grow enough and you're stuck with what you can do....on the flip side if you can gain gain gain (marcus ruhl comes to mind) but never have the structure and proportions that are needed to be the best on stage...then you're stuck there as well.

Good genetics to me primarily means the ability to put on muscle, and the tie-ins/aestheticism is secondary

[Bonaparte]

Christ, is that Zyzz Jr?
Is Australia like the new New Jersey or something? And do you guys have a specific name for these tools? (they look a lot like our "guidos")

BTW, I doubt that guy was natural in any of those pics (probably taking OTC orals since high school).

[jasc]

He looks exactly the same from 17-22 except he discovered a tanning bed.

[frank13]

what the fvck is with Australian people and Zyzz in the first place he looks just like him what a bunch of f-ing weirdos

[jsn23]

i bet he is, i feel like most people on steroids want to feel good about themselves so they lie about their usage

[Bonaparte]

i bet he is, i feel like most people on steroids want to feel good about themselves so they lie about their usage

Really?
So you don't think that the possible threat of federal "pound me in the ass" prison factors in there heavily?

Not to mention the social stigma and all the bullshit you have to listen to from idiots when you admit to using AAS.

No, I'm sure he's just hiding his illegal drug use to "feel good about himself", because nothing boosts one's self-esteem like living a lie.

[dooie]

This is Naso, they have named themselves, everyone in Australia follows these losers, Naso, supaturk, chest brah, zyzz, only reason ppl know them is because of zyzz death! And all they do is juice up for festivals haha!

I don't hate zyzz, but **** I hate the rest of the Aussie guys that idolize him, u mad?

[dooie]

Christ, is that Zyzz Jr?
Is Australia like the new New Jersey or something? And do you guys have a specific name for these tools? (they look a lot like our "guidos")

BTW, I doubt that guy was natural in any of those pics (probably taking OTC orals since high school).

Yeah all these boys are Serbian or whatever they are! They are all tools, I hate saying I'm Australian and ppl asking if I know zyzz!

[Ashop]

Its hard to say. Only he really knows for sure. I hate to guess and judge.

[Lil man]

Damn I just put on Facebook that I'm using and my preacher, employer and parents are not happy. I didn't wanna be a loser

[Lil man]

Damn I just put on Facebook that I'm using and my preacher, employer and parents are not happy. I didn't wanna be a loser

[sharmabrah]

This is Naso, they have named themselves, everyone in Australia follows these losers, Naso, supaturk, chest brah, zyzz, only reason ppl know them is because of zyzz death! And all they do is juice up for festivals haha!

I don't hate zyzz, but **** I hate the rest of the Aussie guys that idolize him, u mad?

I don't mind Naso to be honest, Supaturk is a fat ****, Chestbrah is a joke who tries to be Zyzz and Zyzz should've just been himself instead some gay persona he wanted to take on to impress all the fanboys. I knew about Zyzz way before his death mate - I'm not saying this to excuse myself but I didn't follow him after his death like most Australians did. I didn't even idolize him - I could just relate to SOME aspects of his lifestyle. The only reason I relate to Naso and Zyzz is for one they are my same height and two they don't want to be pro bodybuilders - neither do I. I just want to look physically better, be healthier and prove to myself I can change my lifestyle for the better. I'm not doing it for the vag either (although that comes naturally with looking aesthetically better) - I'm doing it for myself and no one else.

[Razor]

You should be asking is she on steroids ?

[sharmabrah]

You should be asking is she on steroids ?
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WTF is with dat ass? Lol...

[Lil man]

You should be asking is she on steroids ?
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I'm a fan of your idea razor

[austinite]

Why the heck would anyone admit to AAS usage in public or on social networks? This is just silly.

[papa-g]

Op, why can't you post these silly "lets talk about other dudes" threads in the lounge section. This place is divided into subforums for a reason. This one is dedicated to guys who have question regarding aas use and cycle info. This crap about "check this guy out, he's gotta be on something" is taking up space. I'm not trying to be a d!ck even though I'm good at it. But please have some regard for others who are looking for guidance or have legit Q&A and post thus stuff in the proper place! cuz 3 pages on this, C'mon bro. People are calling each other names and it is all just so elementary.

There , I said my piece. Woo saaa!!

[Bonaparte]

Well, Razor just proved once and for all that spot injections do work

[Lil man]

Why the heck would anyone admit to AAS usage in public or on social networks? This is just silly.

Hey man you can be insecure if you want but not me. I'm so secure that finding a job will be a piece of cake. lol

[Razor]

[gonzo6183]

Christ, is that Zyzz Jr?
Is Australia like the new New Jersey or something? And do you guys have a specific name for these tools? (they look a lot like our "guidos")

BTW, I doubt that guy was natural in any of those pics (probably taking OTC orals since high school).

We call them "lebs" and the country woul be a better place if they all went back to where they came from. No I'm not racist but they are all just a bunch of w*nkers

[t-gunz]

how does one thread get out of hand so much ?

op he seems like he is on AS but never can tell 100% could be very gifted. but seeing he loves those sterosonic things just to look good. he would take it. just one of those fags that do that stuff. seem to be many of them.

but also saying having a physque like that he does know how to eat and train right.... expect his legs lol. standard guy who preps only for those events

also if u got things like this to ask post them in the lounge. a mod will move this thread to the lounge when they see it

[Simon1972]

We call them "lebs" and the country woul be a better place if they all went back to where they came from. No I'm not racist but they are all just a bunch of w*nkers

thats exactly what racism is...

the only fault most of these guys have is the fact people follow them- they work out and arent "Huge" just aesthetically in proportion- easier to maintain than massive bulk- you will find most of them were natually skinny so they clean bulk easier and havent gone thru a stage where fat overtakes muscle- eventually it will- some may be steroids some might not- who are we to judge? these guys just chose to show there faces on the internet instead of puttinga black scribble on their avatars like the rest of us- and from the forum postings ive read on alot of these guys( because im Australian and like keeping in the loop with Australian BB's) most have intelligent comments and views. Not sure why alot of the Posters are so anti any famous amatuer bodybuilders. have a look and appreciate the hard work they put in- theres enough haters of bb's in the world as it is- we dont need to turn on ourselves as well.