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    Adrenal fatigue suppressing 5a-dht and 5b-dht? Please help..

    Differences between 5a-DHT and 5b-DHT??
    Could one please advise what 5a-dht and 5b-dht is responsible for??

    I found this hormone panel below based on adrenal fatigue and low 5a-DHT and 5b-DHT

    DHEA 690 (100-2000(
    Testosterone 7.1 (20-200)
    5a-Androstanediol 6.8 (22-131)
    5b-Androstanediol 106 (40-401)
    Androsterone 275 (2000-5000)
    Etiocholanolone 3501 (1400-5000)
    Pregnanetriol 413 (200-1500)
    Cortisone (E) 135 (31-209)
    Cortical (F) 144 (30-170)
    Tetra hydrocortisone (THE) 5010 (2100-7400)
    Allo-Tetra hydrocortisol (5a-THF) 34 (700-3800)
    Tetra hydrocortisol (THF) 3879 (1200-4500)
    11B- Hydroxyandrosterone 173 (613-2298)
    11B- Hydroxyetiocholanolone 151 (153-950)
    Aldosterone 18 Low Salt (6-25)
    Allo-tetrahydrocorticosterone (5a-THB) 31 (130-600)
    Tetrahydrocorticosterone (THB) 497 (30-240)
    11-Dehydrotetrahydrocorticosterone (THA) 322 (76-456)
    HGH 1416 (1065-4722)

    I found this hormone panel on some guy who had adrenal fatigue. He has low 5a-DHT and 5b-DHT, does this information insinuate adrenal fatigue can cause low DHT hormones? IF so the supplement industry is very paradoxical. I have had problems with libido for a while.. and its not getting better. I am trying to address the problem and trying to get to the root problem.

    E.g. Preworkouts > adrenal fatigue > causing low-normal t, low-DHT levels.

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    I don't know much about it (besides what I could google in 2 minutes), but Androstanediol is not DHT.
    http://medical-dictionary.thefreedic...androstanediol

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    Are you sure, isn't it a derivative of DHT and converted into 5a-androstanediol and 5b-androstanediol

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar1990 View Post
    Are you sure, isn't it a derivative of DHT and converted into 5a-androstanediol and 5b-androstanediol
    They're precursors to DHT.

    And why are you pulling up old posts from 2008?
    http://www.healthboards.com/boards/a...st-please.html
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    trying to get to the bottom of why my beard growth, chest hair growth, libido etc is declining at 22 years of age.

    I have always had a high libido and thick/coarse beard.

    Im trying to figure out if I have fried my adrenal glands to the point its affecting my DHT levels etc..

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    What makes you think it isn't just hypogonadism? That seems much more obvious.

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    Lol, is there a ethical approach to forums?

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    How can it be hypogonadism?

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    My T levels are high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar1990 View Post
    My T levels are high?
    are those your stats on the other board?

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    No they are not my stats, I am just using them as a guide.

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    I really need some help/advise with my situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar1990 View Post
    I really need some help/advise with my situation
    Post up your own bloodwork. Because I already explained the other guy's issue (hypogonadism).

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    My bloodwork is listed below

    TT: 24
    SHBG: 53
    FSH: 2
    LH: 4
    C-Reactive Protein: 90.5

    Funny enough, I have acne on my face and alittle on my back. How do I have pimples on my if I have low-t/dht I dont get it, can estrogen or inflammation cause acne?

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    The acne is not a problem though, I am worried about my libido, poor quality of sleep, soft testicles and tighter scrotum, low motivation and mood.

    1 year ago, I use to wake up with morning wood and use to have sex at least once a day and masturbate twice, lol a-little personal but I want to get to the bottom of this so..

    My OEST2: 83 Range: (<150) I dont know if its high or not.

    All this was conducted in Sydney, Australia.

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    Also I have lost sensitivity of my phallus. lol. =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar1990 View Post
    Also I have lost sensitivity of my phallus. lol. =/
    Whats a phallus?

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    lol, penis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leisure Suite Larry View Post
    Whats a phallus?
    Is your google broken? It's the penis.

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    Bonaparte, what do you think of my bloodwork..?

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    anyone??

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar1990 View Post
    Bonaparte, what do you think of my bloodwork..?
    I need reference ranges and units of measure. Those numbers alone don't tell me anything.

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    The levels are:

    TT: 24 pmol/l (9-30 nmol/l)
    SHBG: 53 pmol/l (11-71 pmol/l)
    FSH: 2 IU/L (<7)
    LH: 4 IU/L (<7)
    C-Reactive Protein: 90.5 (<2)
    Plasma Glucose: 4.4 mmol/l (3.4-5.4)

    Thanks

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    You need your DHT, free test, estrogen, prolactin, and cortisol levels checked.
    And what is your cycle history? (especially the most recent events)

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