Favorite Oral Steroid

**dustinn07** · 09-15-2012, 04:16 PM

Can I have some input and reviews from users who've used " dianabol , anavar , helladrol, dieselbolan, and Epistane" and share what kind of gains and sides they got from using them. And which ones they've like the best!

**Bio-Active** · 09-15-2012, 04:17 PM

honestly i dont like any orals

**< <Samson> >** · 09-15-2012, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

honestly i dont like any orals

I agree, never tried any though. But, I know they work, of course they do. But, I like my liver way too much.

**Bio-Active** · 09-15-2012, 04:29 PM

^^^agreed

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

I agree, never tried any though. But, I know they work, of course they do. But, I like my liver way too much.

**gixxerboy1** · 09-15-2012, 04:36 PM

Epistane sucks i wouldn't use again if it was free.
Dbol is ok. Over 40 mgs is just more sides for me.
And i wouldn't use any oral alone

**AZGOLDSMEMBER86** · 09-15-2012, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by dustinn07

Can I have some input and reviews from users who've used " dianabol, anavar, helladrol, dieselbolan, and Epistane" and share what kind of gains and sides they got from using them. And which ones they've like the best!

dbol - best pumps ever ! , gained good strength and size as well.

no gyno
did bloat me a bit

var - N/A

never herd of helladrol

epistane is one of my all time favorites ! very vascular and dry hard quality gains . strength gains were lost after cycle , but good on.

hair loss (minimal )
joint pains aftet 3months of usage
atrophy of testies after 4 months of usage .
elevated blood work after 4 months of usage .

winstrol -is most favorites .
pumps , strength , size ,vascularity , endurance .

joint pain
thining of hair

all used with different tests except epi

**warmouth** · 09-15-2012, 06:27 PM

I heard birth control pills are good choices for body builders leading up to a comp. Sounds silly to me, but it makes a bit of sense when I noticed to wasnt to make gains, but rather make their muscles "fill out" a couple of weeks before. Of course I am not recommending Birth control pills because for most of us, that would be silly.

**austinite** · 09-15-2012, 06:30 PM

Var @ 100 ED

**songdog** · 09-15-2012, 06:36 PM

I agree Var

**AZGOLDSMEMBER86** · 09-15-2012, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Var @ 100 ED

maybe ill try var soon XD

**t-dogg** · 09-15-2012, 07:16 PM

Im pro anavar lol

**AZGOLDSMEMBER86** · 09-15-2012, 07:18 PM

I feel leftout now that i havnt tried var lol.

**MuscleInk** · 09-15-2012, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

I agree, never tried any though. But, I know they work, of course they do. But, I like my liver way too much.

Considering liver transplants are impossible, I've grown attached to mine and prefer to avoid orals.....unless its my wife giving me oral pleasure.

**t-dogg** · 09-15-2012, 07:28 PM

Only oral Id ever run is anavar .

I will say the best oral comes in the form of a fake titty, fake lips stripper imo.

**flashie** · 09-15-2012, 07:32 PM

I love TBOL. Great strength and LBM gains. Currently doing 80mg/ED but I think 60mg/ED is the sweet spot for me as I'm writing this with a splitting headache.

Also I think the effect on liver is overblown. Just got back some bloodwork and my liver values were normal.

**MuscleInk** · 09-15-2012, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by flashie

I love TBOL. Great strength and LBM gains. Currently doing 80mg/ED but I think 60mg/ED is the sweet spot for me as I'm writing this with a splitting headache.

Also I think the effect on liver is overblown. Just got back some bloodwork and my liver values were normal.

Overblown? I'd be careful saying that. A lot of young guys coming in here will read that and assume orals are safe and that simply is untrue. A damaged liver cannot be replaced and you cannot survive without it. Orals are far more hepatotoxic and effect everyone differently.

That kind of statement could result in a very bad decision for someone.

**flashie** · 09-15-2012, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

That kind of statement could result in a very bad decision for someone.

Good point. Let me rephrase. I'm currently doing 80mg/day of TBOL and my liver values are normal. I am taking precautions though. I understand all of the anti-oral sentiment, but people also need to understand that it is the only option for some people.

**MuscleInk** · 09-15-2012, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by flashie

Good point. Let me rephrase. I'm currently doing 80mg/day of TBOL and my liver values are normal. I am taking precautions though. I understand all of the anti-oral sentiment, but people also need to understand that it is the only option for some people.

Thanks, I appreciate that and I'm glad you're keeping up with your liver maintenance and getting your LFTs done.

**sonofsam1** · 09-15-2012, 07:45 PM

Man I try dbol I have to drop it before the 4th week I didn't like it I was too blotted I was taking 40mg a day

**flashie** · 09-15-2012, 08:01 PM

Just to add to the liver discussion. It is really important when taking an oral to avoid everyday things that stress your liver like Tylenol (acetaminophen) and alcohol. Also always be drinking tons of water. If you do these things then you *should* be ok. But the safest thing to do is get your liver checked regularly. I only just started doing this myself.

**kmms** · 09-15-2012, 08:03 PM

I just had liver function tests done after 1month dbol @25mg per day and everything is peachy. No sides and the test continues...

**Ashop** · 09-15-2012, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by dustinn07

Can I have some input and reviews from users who've used " dianabol, anavar, helladrol, dieselbolan, and Epistane" and share what kind of gains and sides they got from using them. And which ones they've like the best!

ANADROL without question,,,puts strength ans size on me like no other.

**bodybuilder** · 09-15-2012, 11:22 PM

Var at 100mg ed.

**ChuckEisenmench** · 09-16-2012, 01:57 PM

I used oral Dbol only cycles and was a lot younger then. Had excellent results with a good diet(Food,Food,Food). I have had liver sgot and sgpt tests done in routine BW with only slightly elevated levels but in the ranges. Was on 40mg/ed for 8 weeks.

**warmouth** · 09-16-2012, 02:43 PM

I think running DBol only is stupid enough, but 8 weeks is a long time for any oral steriod in my opinion. Var is amazing, but the sides I got from it is just not worth it for me again. I might try it at a lower doseage, but not over 100mgs ever.

**t-dogg** · 09-16-2012, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by warmouth

Var is amazing, but the sides I got from it is just not worth it for me again. I might try it at a lower doseage, but not over 100mgs ever.

What sides from anavar ?

**DanB** · 09-16-2012, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

What sides from anavar?

personally i get none apart from severe and sometimes painful pumps

just reread his post, im also interested what sides he experinces

**zleeb82** · 09-16-2012, 03:06 PM

Also, some people choose to run a liver support while on any type of oral. NAC and Liv52 seem to be popular.

**Shsm** · 09-16-2012, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by DanB

personally i get none apart from severe and sometimes painful pumps

just reread his post, im also interested what sides he experinces

The calf and back pumps from Anavar sound brutal...

**DanB** · 09-16-2012, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by zleeb82

Also, some people choose to run a liver support while on any type of oral. NAC and Liv52 seem to be popular.

check atomoni thread on liver support

**DanB** · 09-16-2012, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Shsm

The calf and back pumps from Anavar sound brutal...

lower back from deads and if i was sparring then delts are fried in minutes but i dont mind the calf pump even running long distance, personally i think that footware makes a big difference there