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    Bigger , stronger , wiser ...

    Curious if anyone else has decides against being a huge monster? After being over 100kg body weight and the amount of maintance to maintan that has anyone else decided to dial down to a smaller weight and stay there ? Would love to hear ur stories in detail. Thanks

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    yep, i'm on my way now.. it's hard more of a mental thing but 8-12% bf yr round and hold at about 187.... should still give me good strength without the fat and more endurance..
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    The biggest I've been was 242. It was nice, but the older I get, the less interested I am in getting huge. 225 sub-10 BF and I'm good.

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    Im also becoming less and less inclined to do any sort of bulking, unless it's long term body recomp bulk. If anyone has horror stories of when bulking goes wrong, wanna hear about that as well !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    yep, i'm on my way now.. it's hard more of a mental thing but 8-12% bf yr round and hold at about 187.... should still give me good strength without the fat and more endurance..
    I agree the mental part is sO hard to work arOund, do u find if ur strength is staying up and even progressing do u fin it less mentally challenging? Or is more scale related for u?

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    Ya i like leaning out and staying strong vs size now , was 220 on my 5'10 frame was too big . Wasnt till recently ive cut weight and started jujitsu and grappling . That made me think endurance , strength , cardio ... But my weight would be 180 diced

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    Quote Originally Posted by mockery

    I agree the mental part is sO hard to work arOund, do u find if ur strength is staying up and even progressing do u fin it less mentally challenging? Or is more scale related for u?
    Definitely less challenging ... Mirrors imho are better than scales over all.

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    no desire to be a "monster".

    that's for young bulls anyways. i'm probably going to give 250lbs a run one last time and see how it goes. but that hardly qualifies as a monster.

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    I am shooting to be at 180-190 and maintain. I am up and down from 175-180 now depending on the day. I think at 5'10" and a pretty small frame, 180-190 would be the bomb. I just want the whole "thor" look going for me. Vascularity is a plus, but with hypertension, its always there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman
    no desire to be a "monster".

    that's for young bulls anyways. i'm probably going to give 250lbs a run one last time and see how it goes. but that hardly qualifies as a monster.
    Daamm! 250 would be cool for a bit though

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZGOLDSMEMBER86 View Post
    Daamm! 250 would be cool for a bit though
    the gains are not the problem. that i can do. it's the freaking pain in my lower back. Once i hit 230 the pain kicks in. 'm 235 right now, and it's already starting to bother me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZGOLDSMEMBER86 View Post
    Ya i like leaning out and staying strong vs size now , was 220 on my 5'10 frame was too big . Wasnt till recently ive cut weight and started jujitsu and grappling . That made me think endurance , strength , cardio ... But my weight would be 180 diced
    I train also so mostly I would like to stay on the lean side.............but I would like to get huge at least once just to see what it looks like lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    the gains are not the problem. that i can do. it's the freaking pain in my lower back. Once i hit 230 the pain kicks in. 'm 235 right now, and it's already starting to bother me.
    oh ya, I could wear 240-50+ no problem but, like you Im not a youngin' any more. When I was on I felt great but after all the "old man" tweeks started nagging at me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lstbred View Post
    oh ya, I could wear 240-50+ no problem but, like you Im not a youngin' any more. When I was on I felt great but after all the "old man" tweeks started nagging at me.
    if this run for 250 creates too many problems, i may resign myself to 230 and then just focus on someday breaking 10% body fat. that would be quite the accomplishment!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    if this run for 250 creates too many problems, i may resign myself to 230 and then just focus on someday breaking 10% body fat. that would be quite the accomplishment!!
    Yeah. I wished I had a decent BF% when I was bigger. It's pretty outstanding seeing some giants with < 10%. Most people don't realize how difficult that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    The biggest I've been was 242. It was nice, but the older I get, the less interested I am in getting huge. 225 sub-10 BF and I'm good.
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    Yeah. I wished I had a decent BF% when I was bigger. It's pretty outstanding seeing some giants with < 10%. Most people don't realize how difficult that is.
    I would love to be 225-230 at about 12% I really don't think that asking for a whole lot. I'm 6'0 217 right now sitting at 15% bf. hopefully these new vitamins and my diet and training will yield good results.

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    The biggest I got was 236 on a 5'9" frame, I felt like I was wearing a sumo wrestler. (Not a suit, an actual wrestler) I did not like it at all. I find my ideal weight is 185 - 190. Of course I'm 41 now so my veiws are probably not the norm. I was once 205 and under 10% BF, I was a freaking beast, I was also 24 at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman

    the gains are not the problem. that i can do. it's the freaking pain in my lower back. Once i hit 230 the pain kicks in. 'm 235 right now, and it's already starting to bother me.
    Is that because of heavy lifting ? Or just the extra weight on your body ? Or back pumps ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AXx View Post
    I would love to be 225-230 at about 12% I really don't think that asking for a whole lot. I'm 6'0 217 right now sitting at 15% bf. hopefully these new vitamins and my diet and training will yield good results.
    Very doable for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Very doable for you!
    Best of luck man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZGOLDSMEMBER86 View Post
    Is that because of heavy lifting ? Or just the extra weight on your body ? Or back pumps ...
    Back pumps are ur kidneys in trama ... People associate it with their Orals as gtg. Yeah I listen to my body instead lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZGOLDSMEMBER86 View Post
    Is that because of heavy lifting ? Or just the extra weight on your body ? Or back pumps ...
    at 50, it seems the diagnosis from my Xrays is scoliosis, sway back and arthritas. My back was really sore doing cable curls. Since the back is structurally ok (no degenerative disc issues, nothing out of alignment), and it is "just pain", i marshall through the pain and keep going. but it does wear you out and fukcs with your routines.

    Shit, just weighed at the gym and now up to 237. 250 by the end of the year really isn't going to be difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    at 50, it seems the diagnosis from my Xrays is scoliosis, sway back and arthritas. My back was really sore doing cable curls. Since the back is structurally ok (no degenerative disc issues, nothing out of alignment), and it is "just pain", i marshall through the pain and keep going. but it does wear you out and fukcs with your routines.

    Shit, just weighed at the gym and now up to 237. 250 by the end of the year really isn't going to be difficult.
    Maybe sooner if you start hauling your weights with you everywhere you go, again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman

    at 50, it seems the diagnosis from my Xrays is scoliosis, sway back and arthritas. My back was really sore doing cable curls. Since the back is structurally ok (no degenerative disc issues, nothing out of alignment), and it is "just pain", i marshall through the pain and keep going. but it does wear you out and fukcs with your routines.

    Shit, just weighed at the gym and now up to 237. 250 by the end of the year really isn't going to be difficult.
    Aw i see . Ya i bet it get in the way . That can be frustrating .

    At least your not like others -hooked on pain pills and using gear at the same time.. Ive seen too many at golds , depressing .

    And 237s gotta be high to maintain ,and 250??forget about it lol im a poor ,clearance shopping ,coupon using son-of-a .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mockery

    Back pumps are ur kidneys in trama ... People associate it with their Orals as gtg. Yeah I listen to my body instead lol
    Definitely the smart thing to do...

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    here's the idea for you 51 yrs old... 5'8-9" 215 18% bf right now... during recomp i go to 203 10%bf... but even at that size i play volleyball regularly, and I can put my elbow at the top of the net... that's alot of meat to go up that high..

    I've leg pressed 1500 for reps and 1200 as a regular rep sessions..

    but pressing 400 for 300 reps is more impressive to me now, and doing mudder type training is more of what i'm into now... healthier for sure..
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    here's the idea for you 51 yrs old... 5'8-9" 215 18% bf right now... during recomp i go to 203 10%bf... but even at that size i play volleyball regularly, and I can put my elbow at the top of the net... that's alot of meat to go up that high..

    I've leg pressed 1500 for reps and 1200 as a regular rep sessions.. that's just one leg, right? =)

    but pressing 400 for 300 reps is more impressive to me now, and doing mudder type training is more of what i'm into now... healthier for sure..
    why so many reps? that sounds more like cardio to me? how long that take? 7 or 8 minutes?

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    cool thread, guess im a youngin cuz I wanna be a monster haha.

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    Still don't have close to the muscle or strength I want to have. Biggest I have been was 236. But it would be nice to break 10% bodyfat eventually, maybe one day haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    The biggest I've been was 242. It was nice, but the older I get, the less interested I am in getting huge. 225 sub-10 BF and I'm good.
    The above about sums it up for me as well, numbers and all. Just want to maintain decent size and conditioning as I get older and still look the part.

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    i suffer from looking in the mirror every day and seeing no changes, body recomp wise, but my wife everyweek is like wtf buddy how do you keep getting in such noticable shape.

    i wish their was a way to combat this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZGOLDSMEMBER86 View Post
    Aw i see . Ya i bet it get in the way . That can be frustrating .

    At least your not like others -hooked on pain pills and using gear at the same time.. Ive seen too many at golds , depressing .

    And 237s gotta be high to maintain ,and 250??forget about it lol im a poor ,clearance shopping ,coupon using son-of-a .
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