500mgs 10 weeks or 400mgs 12 weeks

[Lazarov]

So I have enough to either do a 500mg 10 week cycle or a 400mg 12 week cycle. Should I do the 400mg a week but get two more weeks out of the cycle or do a shorter, but more potent 500mg a week 10 week cycle? Thanks.

(TEST ENANTHATE )

[austinite]

Neither.

[t-dogg]

Stats? Age?

[austinite]

Stats? Age?

21..

[MickeyKnox]

a bit too young bro. check out this link..

The Young and Steroids

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UHBeIa7X_fs

[Chris J]

Good call austinite

[< <Samson> >]

A bit young bro, use your natural test while you can.

But, to answer your original question. It won't make much of a difference either way.

If I started my current lifestyle at 21 I would just eat better and lift heavier. Then around 25 I would juice. . . . .


GL Bro!

[Lazarov]

My testosterone is like 460, there's nothing for me to take advantage of. Thank you all for your concern, now will anyone answer my question?

[< <Samson> >]

Apparently I don't exist. . . . . I wish I had 460 natty levels.

[Lunk1]

My testosterone is like 460, there's nothing for me to take advantage of. Thank you all for your concern, now will anyone answer my question?

Can you post your BW???

[Lazarov]

Sure guys, sorry, I didn't know my stats were of importance regarding this question.

When I start the cycle I'll be 175lbs 12-13% BF

[austinite]

My testosterone is like 460, there's nothing for me to take advantage of. Thank you all for your concern, now will anyone answer my question?

Even if we did answer... you said you had exactly enough for 10 weeks @ 500 or 12 weeks @ 400 -- this means you dont have enough for either. You will be short, either way.

[Lazarov]

Apparently I don't exist. . . . . I wish I had 460 natty levels.

For my age, it should definitely be 600+. I'm on the low-end of normal. 100 more ng and I'd be considered "low."

[austinite]

Sure guys, sorry, I didn't know my stats were of importance regarding this question.

When I start the cycle I'll be 175lbs 12-13% BF

I will disregard the age deal for a minute... but that statement in bold is why you should not cycle right now. You have a tremendous amount of research to do.

[Lazarov]

Even if we did answer... you said you had exactly enough for 10 weeks @ 500 or 12 weeks @ 400 -- this means you dont have enough for either. You will be short, either way.

Well, these are my circumstances, I have to do the best with what I have. Right now I'm leaning towards the 10 weeks, since It'll be more potent at 500mg/week and also a shorter period of time, perhaps making recovery take a little less time.

[< <Samson> >]

460 is not really even close to low for any age.


You are looking for a okay to juice which ever way. It is your body, do with it as you wish.

I already answered your question.

But, Austin is right. . . Sounds like you have 2 vials and think you can run a full cycle. I did the same, it does not work out.

[austinite]

Well, these are my circumstances, I have to do the best with what I have. Right now I'm leaning towards the 10 weeks, since It'll be more potent at 500mg/week and also a shorter period of time, perhaps making recovery take a little less time.

Do you know how much an average person produces? 50-70 every week. 400 is a superhuman amount. Like I said... you do not have enough gear to run either cycle anyway. If you run 500 you're lucky to get 8 weeks out of it.

[Lazarov]

I will disregard the age deal for a minute... but that statement in bold is why you should not cycle right now. You have a tremendous amount of research to do.

You know, I'm trying to do my research and get advice from people with experience. You're not helping. I'm sure many young men go off and take steroids without getting the proper advice because they're roid-blocked by people like you. You're not my guardian, just help me make some gains.

[Lunk1]

Well, these are my circumstances, I have to do the best with what I have. Right now I'm leaning towards the 10 weeks, since It'll be more potent at 500mg/week and also a shorter period of time, perhaps making recovery take a little less time.

What Austine was eluding too about not having enough is that you cannot and will not get every last drop out of a vial. There is waste that occurs with each pin as well. On avarage a 10 week cycle if figured to a "T" would most likely only be 9 weeks, perhaps less for first time users.

Can you post your blood work??? Curious as to why a 21 y.o was getting a free T test done??

[Lazarov]

Do you know how much an average person produces? 50-70 every week. 400 is a superhuman amount. Like I said... you do not have enough gear to run either cycle anyway. If you run 500 you're lucky to get 8 weeks out of it.

Why 8 weeks? It should be enough for 10.

[Lazarov]

What Austine was eluding too about not having enough is that you cannot and will not get every last drop out of a vial. There is waste that occurs with each pin as well. On avarage a 10 week cycle if figured to a "T" would most likely only be 9 weeks, perhaps less for first time users.

Can you post your blood work??? Curious as to why a 21 y.o was getting a free T test done??

Oh I see. I don't have my entire blood work on hand but I do have my T levels printed out. Should I post them?

[< <Samson> >]

Why 8 weeks? It should be enough for 10.

I quit

[austinite]

Why 8 weeks? It should be enough for 10.

Because you're not accounting for gear you won't be able to inject. Such as what's left in the pin, the inability for some folks to extract the last bit in the vial, the inconsistency of the so called 10 ML's in the vial which is common to be a little short.

[Lazarov]

Because you're not accounting for gear you won't be able to inject. Such as what's left in the pin, the inability for some folks to extract the last bit in the vial, the inconsistency of the so called 10 ML's in the vial which is common to be a little short.

So then I should shoot for 400mg a week so it'll at least last me 10 weeks?

[austinite]

So then I should shoot for 400mg a week so it'll at least last me 10 weeks?

Sorry man. You're just going about this the wrong way. I'm not going to recommend that you cycle right now. I know you don't want to hear about the "age" thing so I won't bring it up... But you are not being fair to yourself here. Respect your body and at least allow time for research. Asking the most basic questions today and injecting tomorrow is a recipe for disaster.

Best of luck to you.

[MickeyKnox]

Sorry man. You're just going about this the wrong way. I'm not going to recommend that you cycle right now. I know you don't want to hear about the "age" thing so I won't bring it up... But you are not being fair to yourself here. Respect your body and at least allow time for research. Asking the most basic questions today and injecting tomorrow is a recipe for disaster.

Best of luck to you.

well said.

Laz, please pay attention to this. otherwise you'll be just another new guy that returns here crying that he can't get it up, or freaking out at all the acne that has surfaced, or why he is so bloated, or moody, or..ect

be smart bro.

[Lazarov]

Alright guys, I'll be careful. Hopefully my PCT will work nicely.

[t-dogg]

You get advice you should be taking, and wont.


A good question is ask the guys what age they started and if they regret it now because of trt, hrt, ext.

[Buster Brown]

Hey bro, I was 20 when I first cycled (now 42) for the first time back in the dark ages when there wasn't info like there is today. My Tes levels were low from that point on. No big deal right! Settled down later in life and decided it was time for a family. Well.... after 3 yrs. of trying we had to go the invitro route because of my bad decisions when I was young. I wound up with triplets and they are now 4. What does this have to do with you you ask? You never know how your life is going to end up. WAIT, be patient and learn from this site and implement when you are of age.

[Lazarov]

Hey bro, I was 20 when I first cycled (now 42) for the first time back in the dark ages when there wasn't info like there is today. My Tes levels were low from that point on. No big deal right! Settled down later in life and decided it was time for a family. Well.... after 3 yrs. of trying we had to go the invitro route because of my bad decisions when I was young. I wound up with triplets and they are now 4. What does this have to do with you you ask? You never know how your life is going to end up. WAIT, be patient and learn from this site and implement when you are of age.

I really just want to do one cycle to gain 10-15 lbs of muscle and then maintain and try to gain year after year naturally. This is not a start of a cycle of cycles for me. You think one cycle of test is going to mess me up that bad?

[austinite]

I really just want to do one cycle to gain 10-15 lbs of muscle and then maintain and try to gain year after year naturally. This is not a start of a cycle of cycles for me. You think one cycle of test is going to mess me up that bad?

It messed me up. One simple cycle that was planned out perfectly.

[Lazarov]

You get advice you should be taking, and wont.


A good question is ask the guys what age they started and if they regret it now because of trt, hrt, ext.

Do those stand for testosterone replacement therapy and hormone replacement therapy?

[Lazarov]

It messed me up. One simple cycle that was planned out perfectly.

How did it mess you up?

[t-dogg]

Yes they do stand for that.

[austinite]

How did it mess you up?

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...28#post6168128

[Firepal]

Listen to these people they know what they are talking about. i listened to them when i was younger and im happy I did.

[Lazarov]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...28#post6168128

I read it, I'm sorry that happened to you man :/ What roids did you take? For how long?

[austinite]

about 7 weeks of prop.

[Lazarov]

How much?

[Buster Brown]

It is never one SIMPLE cycle, it is more like PANDORAS BOX!!!!!! You don't need to learn that world is not flat. Dedicate your time to the nutrition section of this forum and you will be able to apply that knowledge now.