Best Fat burners. Safest to take?

**warmouth** · 10-15-2012, 11:12 AM

Ok. So there has been alot of questions lately about clen and some other fat burners. I would like to ask some questions to the guys that know(for me and everyone else). I took 1 dose of clen a few ago and will NEVER do that again! It is too harsh and my heart felt as if it were going to explode. Now with that being said, what are the best ones that are the safest on the heart and body over all? Please give detailed descriptions of the pros and cons of each of these compounds if you can:

1. Clenbuterol
2. Albuterol
3. T3
4. T4
5. ECA Stack

Cardio and diet are much more important and the best means of controlling fat and weight gain. This is for research purposes only. For everyone curious, please research these compounds for yourself before deciding on one. Some are very unhealthy and downright dangerous. Clen is undoubtedly a great fat burner, but at what cost? Atomini, come at me. lol

**austinite** · 10-15-2012, 11:17 AM

Eca.

**cherrydrpepper** · 10-15-2012, 11:42 AM

I know no one wants to hear this but its really diet control and cardio. I have started doing cardio every day lately and feel much better. To keep it interesting and keep the body guessing, I mix it up. Sometimes its a walk on the beach, sometimes its stair steppers or bicycle, or treadmill at max incline. You have to get motivated. One of the best tools is take a pic of yourself and keep an updated one from today next to it. The other best tool is to set a definite goal with a date i.e. im going to reduce my bf to such and such by such date. Chemicals to cut fat will not last. That said, I have run clen and probably will run some of the others in the future (I didn't like clen either, heart palpitations, shakes and felt horrible).

"You've got to create a short term goal and long term goal and you gotta go after that. If you do not see it and you do not believe it, who else will?"

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 11:47 AM

I'm looking into GW501516 right now...................

**t-dogg** · 10-15-2012, 11:51 AM

Clen is "ok" and cheap. If price isnt a issue I recommend gw-501516.

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

Clen is "ok" and cheap. If price isnt a issue I recommend gw-501516.

have you used?

maybe you can elaborate a little on how it went for you?

**t-dogg** · 10-15-2012, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

have you used?

maybe you can elaborate a little on how it went for you?

Yes sir, remember I pm'ed you about it.

Great for fat burning imo. Endurance shoots up. strenght gains. Only down side is cost in liquid form.

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

Yes sir, remember I pm'ed you about it.

Great for fat burning imo. Endurance shoots up. strenght gains. Only down side is cost in liquid form.

yeah, i forgot.

looking to purchase bulk powder. the cost will come down substantially this way. just trying to prevent getting ripped off by the source..............

**t-dogg** · 10-15-2012, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

yeah, i forgot.

looking to purchase bulk powder. the cost will come down substantially this way. just trying to prevent getting ripped off by the source..............

You found one that isnt in chinia lol?

**Capebuffalo** · 10-15-2012, 12:29 PM

You remember you are in a bulk competition right?

**Times Roman** · 10-15-2012, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

You found one that isnt in chinia lol?

china is sending me a sample.

there is another in the Ukraine that is really cost effective..........

**t-dogg** · 10-15-2012, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

china is sending me a sample.

there is another in the Ukraine that is really cost effective..........

PM'ed lol

**Gi812Many** · 10-15-2012, 03:03 PM

Warmouth...DNP baby!!!! LMAO! JK.....Man I really like a maintance dose of the T3 and run an ECA stack for 30-40 days then take a month and half off.

**Gi812Many** · 10-15-2012, 03:04 PM

Oh and add a Little Debbie Oatmeal cookie, that helps get some off too

**papa-g** · 10-15-2012, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Gi812Many

Oh and add a Little Debbie Oatmeal cookie, that helps get some off too

Lmfao. They don't seem to work for me.

**ironbeck** · 10-15-2012, 03:36 PM

Hands down.........diet and cardio

**warmouth** · 10-15-2012, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Gi812Many

Warmouth...DNP baby!!!! LMAO! JK.....Man I really like a maintance dose of the T3 and run an ECA stack for 30-40 days then take a month and half off.

Ha ha. You know thats not going to happen!

**warmouth** · 10-15-2012, 04:25 PM

Cape - I do know this

There hs been a recent overload of questions regarding the issue, so I just asked. I was curious too.

TR- I like the looks and sound of GW, there is just not enough evidence for me that it is effective at burning fats as well as the others form a price to comparison point.
Tdogg- Kid of the same as for Times Roman. It is costly and from evidence I have read, it really doesnt seem to burn as much fat as the ones listed. I am not saying it
doesnt, there just isnt enough data as of the moment.

IronBeck- Total agreement with the cardio. I also posted this in the opening that it is the best. I only wanted to get user reviews of the compounds due to the recent surge in questions regarding them.

All great stuff guys!

**< <Samson> >** · 10-15-2012, 04:30 PM

GH

But, even if I could afford it I don't know if I would use it.

**t-dogg** · 10-15-2012, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by warmouth

Cape - I do know this

There hs been a recent overload of questions regarding the issue, so I just asked. I was curious too.

TR- I like the looks and sound of GW, there is just not enough evidence for me that it is effective at burning fats as well as the others form a price to comparison point.
Tdogg- Kid of the same as for Times Roman. It is costly and from evidence I have read, it really doesnt seem to burn as much fat as the ones listed. I am not saying it
doesnt, there just isnt enough data as of the moment.

IronBeck- Total agreement with the cardio. I also posted this in the opening that it is the best. I only wanted to get user reviews of the compounds due to the recent surge in questions regarding them.

All great stuff guys!

For me its leaps and bounds better then clen . Its burns fat and increases endurance for me. Again liquid is pricey, BUT powder hmmmm.

**warmouth** · 10-15-2012, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

For me its leaps and bounds better then clen. Its burns fat and increases endurance for me. Again liquid is pricey, BUT powder hmmmm.

No kidding! That is what I like to hear. Do you have to mix up the powder or just cap and eat it? Also, does it have the terrible sides like shaking, pounding heartbeat, loss of appetite, lethargy, etc that clen has?

**t-dogg** · 10-15-2012, 07:34 PM

Gw501516 has no sides and thats what makes it so much better then clen . Only makes you sweat more. All around way better.

**Phased** · 10-15-2012, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

Gw501516 has no sides and thats what makes it so much better then clen. Only makes you sweat more. All around way better.

Agreed adding in l-carnitine injections with GW is a great clean side effect free fat burning stack.

**AXx** · 10-15-2012, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

Gw501516 has no sides and thats what makes it so much better then clen. Only makes you sweat more. All around way better.

Sweat more?? Damn I don't need anymore help with that. I am a nasty sweater. I really wanna try GW.

**t-dogg** · 10-15-2012, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by AXx

Sweat more?? Damn I don't need anymore help with that. I am a nasty sweater. I really wanna try GW.

Yeah I do with it. Workouts more and when I slept for a few nights.

**Phased** · 10-15-2012, 08:36 PM

What are you running your GW at?

**t-dogg** · 10-15-2012, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Phased

What are you running your GW at?

Im off right now. I run 20mgs a day split am and mid day.

**Gi812Many** · 10-15-2012, 09:35 PM

GW...never heard of this stuff??? How long do you run GW?

**kronik420** · 10-15-2012, 10:08 PM

i guess im the only one that likes clen . lol, i guess some people just cant handle the sides very well, i run doses of up to 200mcg (might have tried 240mcg once, cant remember).

diet and cardio is key but..

last week i lost 2kg with diet alone..

**t-dogg** · 10-15-2012, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Gi812Many

GW...never heard of this stuff??? How long do you run GW?

As long or short as you want. No pct either.

**t-dogg** · 10-15-2012, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by kronik420

i guess im the only one that likes clen . lol, i guess some people just cant handle the sides very well, i run doses of up to 200mcg (might have tried 240mcg once, cant remember).

diet and cardio is key but..

last week i lost 2kg with diet alone..

Clen works, but has sides and messes with the heart Long term.

Much better and safer things to use imo.