PROP / NPP / VAR for a short Bulk Cycle ............... Please Critique

[_Romeo_]

Completed 1st cycle (7 months ago): test E at 500 a week for 16 weeks... Aromasin 12.5mg through out the whole cycle. HCG at 250 twice a week then a blast before PCT...... Also, PCT consisted of clomid 50/50/50/50 ... Nolva 40/40/20/20.

No major side effects at all... Test E kicked in for me around week 8,9 (bloating + some back pain)

Total pounds gained: 28 pounds & kept about 10 solid pounds.

Stats: 32 years old, 5'7, 198lbs, 14-15% BF, lifting since i was 17.

Proposed Cycle (in a few weeks): TPP or test Prop weeks 1-10 at 200mg EOD
NPP weeks 1-8 at 150mg EOD
VAR weeks 4-12 at 50mg Daily
Aromasin throughout cycle at 12.5mg daily
HCG throughout cycle at 250iu twice a week... 500iu Blast for 10 days prior to PCT
Caber on hand just in case.
PCT: 2 weeks after last test Shot
clomid 100/100/50/50....Nolva 40/40/20/20 (weeks 3,4,5,6 of PCT)... Aromasin 25/25/25/25

Goal: Short Lean Bulk with minimal bloat.

please let me know what your thoughts are.. thanks

[Sworder]

Short burst is 8 weeks with those esters!
Var could get bumped to 60-100mg.

Looks fine though seems like you are doing a lot of masin during PCT. If using Prop you can start after 3 days not 2 weeks.

My suggestion:

Week 1-8 200mg Test P EOD
Week 1-8 150mg NPP EOD
Week 2-8 Anavar 80mg/day

[stpete]

Short burst is 8 weeks with those esters!
Var could get bumped to 60-100mg.

Looks fine though seems like you are doing a lot of masin during PCT. If using Prop you can start after 3 days not 2 weeks.

My suggestion:

Week 1-8 200mg Test P EOD
Week 1-8 150mg NPP EOD
Week 2-8 Anavar 80mg/day

Nice cycle.

[P.Money]

I'd do that for 12 weeks, my brother did the exact same cycle with 80mg var a day and he was absolutely Jacked

[_Romeo_]

I'd do that for 12 weeks, my brother did the exact same cycle with 80mg var a day and he was absolutely Jacked

12 weeks on Prop !!! Isn't that a bit too much for Prop ?? Maybe Test E ?

[_Romeo_]

*Bump

[marcus300]

Start your var from day one with all the other compounds,
200mgs prop and npp EOD
Go with 6 weeks
make sure you prime the body before staring the cycle this can take 6wk minimum and you will see amazing agains

[warmouth]

Start your var from day one with all the other compounds,
200mgs prop and npp EOD
Go with 6 weeks
make sure you prime the body before staring the cycle this can take 6wk minimum and you will see amazing agains

What do you mean by priming the body Marcus? I have heard this from several members and friends, but they are are conflicting. I would take your advice on it for sure. I have been told everything from high creatine, dialing in diet, overload of D3 etc. And OP, that cycle is something I would love to do for cutting! Sounds great. Only NPP I can get is a blend, whick I am not into. Good luck!

[_Romeo_]

Start your var from day one with all the other compounds,
200mgs prop and npp EOD
Go with 6 weeks
make sure you prime the body before staring the cycle this can take 6wk minimum and you will see amazing agains

i appreciate the feedback... will do 200mgs for prop & npp EOD.. and Var from day one.
is there a huge difference between running it for 6 weeks vs 8 ?
As far as the Var, should i leave the dosage at 50mg or increase it as the weeks advance?
No idea what "prime the body" was until i read the link you have in your signature.. great info.

[< <Samson> >]

Short burst is 8 weeks with those esters!
Var could get bumped to 60-100mg.

Looks fine though seems like you are doing a lot of masin during PCT. If using Prop you can start after 3 days not 2 weeks.

My suggestion:

Week 1-8 200mg Test P EOD
Week 1-8 150mg NPP EOD
Week 2-8 Anavar 80mg/day

I like that cycle. What kind of gains are possible from this?(I know it can vary, A LOT)

Sounds like a hell of bulking/shredding cycle. . . . . Makes me want to run orals.

[marcus300]

What do you mean by priming the body Marcus? I have heard this from several members and friends, but they are are conflicting. I would take your advice on it for sure. I have been told everything from high creatine, dialing in diet, overload of D3 etc. And OP, that cycle is something I would love to do for cutting! Sounds great. Only NPP I can get is a blend, whick I am not into. Good luck!

This will explain it, its one of the most powerful tools you can do pre cycle.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...before-cycling..

[_Romeo_]

I like that cycle. What kind of gains are possible from this?(I know it can vary, A LOT)

Sounds like a hell of bulking/shredding cycle. . . . . Makes me want to run orals.

I am looking forward to it... and dreading the EOD jabbing...but what the hell, the results should be worth it.

Q: for Marcus300.... when i was doing my research on this cycle, i read that one can increase the NPP dosage (as long as you are taking caber/prami) against Test Prop...yet no many do it simply because it was always known that Test should be run at a higher dosage than any other oil..... any take on that?

[The Titan99]

I absolutely love Test P/NPP/Tbol cycles (with a good dose of HGH). Especially after running Tren with all the sides, this one is all warm and fuzzy for me.

[_Romeo_]

I absolutely love Test P/NPP/Tbol cycles (with a good dose of HGH). Especially after running Tren with all the sides, this one is all warm and fuzzy for me.

looking forward to using Tren... but i guess i have to have a few cycle under my belt first.

Question: Do you guys recommend running NPP at 150mg eod... Prop at 100mg eod or just leave them both the same?

[stpete]

I always run higher, or equal test.Keeps thing more "normal". Prop@150 and NPP@100 EOD will be just fine. You could kick the NPP up to 150 if you want.