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**marcus300** · 02-22-2013, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

And I will add, I am training to compete in the worlds strongest man comps.

Your training a strongman comps? that takes some work Bear

send us a pic of yourself lets see what you got?

**The Bear 79** · 02-22-2013, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Your training a strongman comps? that takes some work Bear

send us a pic of yourself lets see what you got?

Yeah sorry, that's not gonna happen, I tried to post a pic of me through a method that I thought would maintain my anonymity but actually came really close to tearing my life apart, further solidifying my theory that posting pics in open or even through PM, is a sure way to fvck my whole world up. If you want details, I'll PM you, otherwise I'll just leave it as a simple NO...........sorry.

If I make the pro circuit, you all will see plenty of pics & videos of me.

**marcus300** · 02-22-2013, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

Yeah sorry, that's not gonna happen, I tried to post a pic of me through a method that I thought would maintain my anonymity but actually came really close to tearing my life apart, further solidifying my theory that posting pics in open or even through PM, is a sure way to fvck my whole world up. If you want details, I'll PM you, otherwise I'll just leave it as a simple NO...........sorry.

If I make the pro circuit, you all will see plenty of pics & videos of me.

Just send one through pm mate, dont worry I'll delete it

**TheClinch** · 02-19-2013, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Atomini

Definitely. People place take things to the extreme of either end with a lot of things. For example...

"OMG ESTROGEN IS BAD! MUST ELIMINATE IT ALL WITH AN AI!"

or

"REDUCING ESTROGEN IS NOT GOOD, DONT RUN AN AI"

Well, my philosophy is: try to control Estrogen as best as possible without an AI. If the need for an AI arises, use it for Estrogen control rather than Estrogen elimination. Estrogen control is defined as keeping Estrogen levels as close as possible to normal physiological ranges.

There, that's not so difficult is it? There's no reason for people to take things to utter extremes, but I see it all the time here. It's crazy.

Why not dose to lower estrogen without completely eliminating it? Maintaining more stable levels is certainly a smarter method hormonally speaking.

Especially seeing that too high or too low of levels can hinder gains and reduce your general feeling of wellness. Let alone the health issues regarding prostate cancer and other estroge related side effects of cycling.

**warmouth** · 02-19-2013, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

And I will add, I am training to compete in the worlds strongest man comps.

Will you let a select few of us know when you might compete?

**warmouth** · 02-19-2013, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Metalject

I read this line and a tear almost came to my eye:
"Well, my philosophy is: try to control Estrogen as best as possible without an AI. If the need for an AI arises, use it for Estrogen control rather than Estrogen elimination. Estrogen control is defined as keeping Estrogen levels as close as possible to normal physiological ranges."

I had no clue there were others with this level of common sense.

LOL! You and Atomini are the reason I do this. So funny. But the truth is, I think a lot of guys here feel the same way metalject. Not the guys who run high test doses for obvious reasons, but for us who like the trt or lower dose with a stronger compound used as the work horse. I feel 10x better on a trt dose with high deca , and I've not just been saying that. I love it!

**warmouth** · 02-19-2013, 04:41 PM

Lol!

**poppz** · 02-19-2013, 07:54 PM

5 mo cycle ,deca 600mg ,,sus 750,,AIs,,pct,, dck was fcked up at end of and after cycle for a few months. fine now.

**BBJT200** · 02-20-2013, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by poppz

5 mo cycle ,deca 600mg ,,sus 750,,AIs,,pct,, dck was fcked up at end of and after cycle for a few months. fine now.

did you use any prolactin control?

**The Bear 79** · 02-20-2013, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by BBJT200

did you use any prolactin control?

AI's control prolactin too.

**BBJT200** · 02-20-2013, 02:47 AM

I was referring to his dick issues. clearly his prolactin was not under control?

**The Bear 79** · 02-20-2013, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by BBJT200

I was referring to his dick issues. clearly his prolactin was not under control?

I know what you were referring to, & its obviously not as clear as you may think. If AI's control both estrogen & prolactin then there should have been no ED due to estrogen or prolactin because he used an AI right?...............Unless............his dose was insufficient.

Or maybe it was a blood pressure issue.

Not quite so clear now eh.........

**BBJT200** · 02-20-2013, 03:27 AM

Blood pressure can control ED?

**The Bear 79** · 02-20-2013, 03:38 AM

High blood pressure is one of the leading causes of erectile dysfunction.

Have a look at the mechanism of drugs like Cialis & Viagra.

**warmouth** · 02-20-2013, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

High blood pressure is one of the leading causes of erectile dysfunction.

Have a look at the mechanism of drugs like Cialis & Viagra.

100% correct bear.

**loki_is_a_god** · 02-20-2013, 03:48 PM

5 months and still rolling..

**Psaletta** · 02-20-2013, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by loki_is_a_god

5 months and still rolling..

Blast and Cruz? Or just flat out cycling?

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 02-20-2013, 05:18 PM

It's a personal thing. Genes are genes, just like some guys are jacked after 6 months of training and some need 6 years. Same with cholesterol and BP. My cholesterol gets crappy pretty much on anything, even if doing cardio and dieting, eating clean etc. tHEN i know a pro wrestler who does tren 10 months out of the year and he SAYS his lipids are fine, and it may very well be true. You have to get that lipid test tho. Guys back in the day didnt, and the ones who couldn't handle the drugs never knew, and thats why theres dozens of old pros with heart disease, and pro wrestlers dead with heart attacks.(tho some of those deaths were pain med induced, tho probably compounded by premature atherosclerosis). And of course some guys just don't care. Take for instance mike matarazzo. He should have and maybe did know the effects of gear on lipids, but at 40 had clogged arteries(and kidney problems, on dialysis now). Theres no reason guys who work out all the time and eat chicken breasts all day should get heart disease at 40 instead of 70, but it's happening.
TRT...a man probably shouldnt need it till after 40...and there are a growing number of guys i see on here, and in my industry, who are in their late 20s and early 30s on trt. Some would flame these guys...saying that they are "screwing up their system for life" and unnescesarily comminting themselves to a needle in their ass every week....but...if TRT is such a blessing at 40+...why then would starting it 10-15 years earlier be a "grievious life mistake". It's not, it's a personal choice, depending on your needs. Now, if a 19 year old wanted to be on TRT for life, i'd probably flame them,lol,as at that age alota of these kids are making emotional decisions. And i know a couple who are that age and not smart about their cycling and if continued will need trt in their early 20s. To me, that's premature.

**jameshodge** · 02-22-2013, 03:54 AM

You have to be careful to not cycle too long because there really isn't any need to. It can affect the prostate too and so plan on taking prostate supplements like Super Beta Prostate supplement which is no scam. It contains beta-sitosterol which some of the best stuff for prostate issues.

**Honkey_Kong** · 02-22-2013, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by jameshodge

You have to be careful to not cycle too long because there really isn't any need to. It can affect the prostate too and so plan on taking prostate supplements like Super Beta Prostate supplement which is no scam. It contains beta-sitosterol which some of the best stuff for prostate issues.

Super Beta Prostate is a scam though. New Vitality (The company that makes that crap) is fronted by Roger W. Mason, who is a career criminal. You can see some of his doings on here http://www.ethicsabuse.com/rober-w-m...itentiary.html

**The Titan99** · 02-22-2013, 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by jameshodge

You have to be careful to not cycle too long because there really isn't any need to. It can affect the prostate too and so plan on taking prostate supplements like Super Beta Prostate supplement which is no scam. It contains beta-sitosterol which some of the best stuff for prostate issues.

This is his first post...lol!! You don't by chance know where I might buy some Super Beta Prostate supplement do you? (Notice the caps).

**The Bear 79** · 02-22-2013, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by jameshodge

You have to be careful to not cycle too long because there really isn't any need to. It can affect the prostate too and so plan on taking prostate supplements like Super Beta Prostate supplement which is no scam. It contains beta-sitosterol which some of the best stuff for prostate issues.

Originally Posted by The Titan99

This is his first post...lol!! You don't by chance know where I might buy some Super Beta Prostate supplement do you? (Notice the caps).

This guy is quick, they usually wait til they're at least 50 or 60 posts in before they go full throttle salesman..............it appears this gent arrived by way of cannon blast..............no time to waste...............he's about to hit the dirt face first.....................

**warmouth** · 02-22-2013, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

This is his first post...lol!! You don't by chance know where I might buy some Super Beta Prostate supplement do you? (Notice the caps).

Ha ha. Titan....

**The Bear 79** · 02-22-2013, 10:06 AM

Understood.

**kawika** · 02-22-2013, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

I agree with both of you but I do not believe an ai should be used blind. You should run labs and run your ai accordingly! So many people fail to run labs!

Some of us don't have the means to run labs before, during, and after cycle. Be sure, I would if I could but the docs always give me strange looks when I ask for tests and sometimes, if there's no "reason" to test, the insurance won't cover it.

**The Bear 79** · 02-22-2013, 06:16 PM

It's only a little over $200.00 to for a full panel.................

**OnTheSauce** · 02-22-2013, 06:20 PM

Cost me 160 last time

**kawika** · 02-25-2013, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

It's only a little over $200.00 to for a full panel.................

Do you go to your gp and then just pay out of pocket?

**Far from massive** · 02-25-2013, 04:22 PM

Private labs md is a very common source of labwork. You order what you want, private labs sends the order as your doctor would, you go and get blood done, private labs provides the results.

You can do this without involving your insurance or doctor which is a good thing for those living in the US since at some point you may need to obtain your own insurance based on your personal profile. When you try to get insurance with past labs indicating AAS usage, you are not a good risk and you are likely to be denied.

**OnTheSauce** · 02-25-2013, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Far from massive

Private labs md is a very common source of labwork. You order what you want, private labs sends the order as your doctor would, you go and get blood done, private labs provides the results.

You can do this without involving your insurance or doctor which is a good thing for those living in the US since at some point you may need to obtain your own insurance based on your personal profile. When you try to get insurance with past labs indicating AAS usage, you are not a good risk and you are likely to be denied.

This

**kawika** · 02-26-2013, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Far from massive

Private labs md is a very common source of labwork. You order what you want, private labs sends the order as your doctor would, you go and get blood done, private labs provides the results.

You can do this without involving your insurance or doctor which is a good thing for those living in the US since at some point you may need to obtain your own insurance based on your personal profile. When you try to get insurance with past labs indicating AAS usage, you are not a good risk and you are likely to be denied.

Wow. Ill look into this. Thank you very much for the information.