Listen metalject your point was not lost on me I get it. I get the title and the thread content, but you have to understand that by putting your opinion out there especially one as controversial (IMO) as yours you have to look at the opposite side of the argument even if you don't agree, because as I said before, young OR older guys will use this as an excuse to do what they want.

Anyone and everyone can state and/or prove the opposite point of an argument on this board but safety MUST be addressed first or we are the same as the meatheads in the gym who dish out bro science to anyone who will listen,