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    Question Possible to target a specific muscle with steroids?

    READ CAREFULLY, ONLY FOR EXTREMELY KNOWLEDGEABLE MEMBERS:Okay first off, let me say I know that steroids don't produce a localized effect and the half lives last long enough to get to every part of your body. I work roughly two body parts a day, four days a week. One of those days of the week I work my shoulders, and on my left shoulder, my 3 delts, and shoulder blade need to be specifically targeted. I need muscle hyperplasia aka my shoulder to produce more, not bigger muscle cells. This can be done through the proper high rep, high set workout, or if I could possibly get my hands on it IGF-1 and/or HGH. Both of these hormones are just too expensive too afford. I am too close to my maximum natural potential muscle mass weight to make any muscle mass gains. So my question is could I just take a low grade pill form "test booster" on the days that I work my shoulders? I don't think I'd get the results I want to see in my shoulder but the question is worth asking I suppose. I figure that I would have to take it before, on the day I work my shoulder and after but I've never ever taken any sort of steroids, test booster, ect, been completely clean.

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    Test boosters aren't worth the money for the minimal results they produce and they still unbalance your hormones

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    Just work the areas you want to grow a bit more often and hit them with different exercises all the time. Test boosters do nothing.

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    I know they market them as "test boosters" and some don't have any testosterone in them but I'm talking about the test boosters that have actual testosterone in them. There is no real such thing as a supplement that makes you produce more testosterone unless it is IGF-1 or HGH. I know how to workout. Whatever you'd like to call them, I'm referring to supplements like D-drol...

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    Have you read anything on this site? Ph's are not a good idea.

    Work you shoulders 2 times a week and they will grow.

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    Read the first post before you comment. I'M AT MY MAX MUSCLE MASS.

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    Boosters that have actual test in them?
    You mean steroids ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panntastic View Post
    Boosters that have actual test in them?
    You mean steroids?
    Yeah, it's all advertisement... anything with test is a steroid , low grade, but steroid none the less.

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    It doesn't take an extremely knowledgeable member to answer these questions... The answer is no, you can't take PH of any kind on workout days and achieve anything. If "Test Boosters" had test in them they would be called test, not boosters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Football47 View Post
    READ CAREFULLY, ONLY FOR EXTREMELY KNOWLEDGEABLE MEMBERS:Okay first off, let me say I know that steroids don't produce a localized effect and the half lives last long enough to get to every part of your body. I work roughly two body parts a day, four days a week. One of those days of the week I work my shoulders, and on my left shoulder, my 3 delts, and shoulder blade need to be specifically targeted. I need muscle hyperplasia aka my shoulder to produce more, not bigger muscle cells. This can be done through the proper high rep, high set workout, or if I could possibly get my hands on it IGF-1 and/or HGH. Both of these hormones are just too expensive too afford. I am too close to my maximum natural potential muscle mass weight to make any muscle mass gains. So my question is could I just take a low grade pill form "test booster" on the days that I work my shoulders? I don't think I'd get the results I want to see in my shoulder but the question is worth asking I suppose. I figure that I would have to take it before, on the day I work my shoulder and after but I've never ever taken any sort of steroids, test booster, ect, been completely clean.

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    Read the first post before you comment. I'M AT MY MAX MUSCLE MASS.
    Only extremely knowledgeable members?

    Sorta come off like a douche!!!! I might be wrong but I believe this forum is open to all and is a free site. yes or no? I think you should be a little nicer/ cooler everyone here has their opinion and that's why its a great place to post as such take what you get it's FREE! Yes you will find some people to have better info and some to be more helpful but dont be a DOUCHE!!!

    I don't know if I have enough knowledge to help you but in my own humble opinion test boosters don't work there are food that will increase test production and foods that will lower estrogen production but you have to eat in impossible amounts. Most suppplements are from food or extracts of food goods, also if they worked I think we would hear about it like we did with the IGF (deer antler extract) scandal with the Ravens player. I also think a lot fewer guys would be paying big bucks for TRT and HRT, but what do I know.

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    Any test boosters that work are Pro Hormones and I have seen a lot more people who have bad and long lasting side effect from PH than aas.
    To answer you question about site specific I agree with everyone, NO.
    You say/claim you are at your potential limits. It's time to post some pictures then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Football47 View Post
    Read the first post before you comment. I'M AT MY MAX MUSCLE MASS.


    Stats?


    Test Boosters are junk. This doesnt take extreme knowledge, just common sense.


    Sure you can "target a muscle group" You just train it more then others lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Football47 View Post
    Read the first post before you comment. I'M AT MY MAX MUSCLE MASS.

    how do you know this??

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    No, you cannot take a "low grade" pill and expect any results at all.

    AAS will help with hypertrophy but not hyperplasia.
    Give us full stats, including age, and we'll see what we can do to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ma_fighter View Post
    No, you cannot take a "low grade" pill and expect any results at all.

    AAS will help with hypertrophy but not hyperplasia.
    Give us full stats, including age, and we'll see what we can do to help.
    his profile says:
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    10% approximate (probably just a guess..)
    and a douche

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    Ah.. Maxed out his musclemass at age 22, with a whooping 176lbs!
    Right...

    Meh, just keep hitting the gym, you're not at your genetic max. If youre sitting at 10%bf you just need to eat more to grow, this thread is pointless

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420

    how do you know this??
    Exactly what I was thinking????

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    It doesn't take an extremely knowledgeable member to answer these questions... The answer is no, you can't take PH of any kind on workout days and achieve anything. If "Test Boosters" had test in them they would be called test, not boosters...
    ^^This x2^^

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    Did you guys scare OP off?

    OP, way to come off like an ass. As mentioned above, it does not take an extremely knowledgable member to answer your question.

    You say you are at you max genetic potential... What are your stats?

    PHs are terrible for you. Do some research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Football47 View Post
    I'M AT MY MAX MUSCLE MASS.
    Sweet, you must be Jay Cutler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Sweet, you must be Jay Cutler.
    i call the first autograph!!!!!

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    Lol this guys a tool. Won't even post anymore cuz he looks like an idiot. Just dosent have the discipline to make gains naturally, that's all.

    I'm sure there are people who are bigger than me but I achieved 210 at a relatively low bf completely natural by the time I was 18. Keep eating dude, the only pills you need are maybe some multis

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    Everyone knows that eating white fish promotes shoulder growth..

    Stay away from chicken. It'll enlarge your pecs, making your fully maxed out 176lb shoulders look even smaller.

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    I'll just go check this out with my doctor, because I have lil douche bags that don't know shit chiming in, people that could be knowledgeable but aren't reading the entire post and straight up douche bags. Old stats, I don't weigh 176lbs, anyone that wants to talk shit can suck a dick.

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    For those who don't know let me educate you on max potential muscle mass. Well boys and girls there is a thing called genes, not the jeans you wear and everyone has them. Muscle growth is not exponential, and to dull that down for you, you can't just gain muscle forever, you will hit a point where your body doesn't make enough testosterone to add more muscle. I know an incredible amount about lifting and the body but not as much about steroids because I've never taken them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Football47 View Post
    I'll just go check this out with my doctor, because I have lil douche bags that don't know shit chiming in, people that could be knowledgeable but aren't reading the entire post and straight up douche bags. Old stats, I don't weigh 176lbs, anyone that wants to talk shit can suck a dick.
    Are you stupid? What doctor in his right mind is going to help you get steroids ? And by the way, there is no test booster that actually works. And as far as those prohormones go, they shut down your body's test production. As soon as you stop taking them, you put yourself in an androgen deficit and so you lose any of the slight gains you got from them.

    By the way, whether you claim to be 176 or 186lbs, at 5'10, you're not at your natural limit. You need to learn how to eat, and probably how to train more effectively too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ma_fighter View Post
    No, you cannot take a "low grade" pill and expect any results at all.

    AAS will help with hypertrophy but not hyperplasia.
    Give us full stats, including age, and we'll see what we can do to help.
    Yes, but with high reps, low, high sets like a bodybuilder you can induce muscle hyperplasia. I like Martin Berkhan’s Model for lean body mass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Are you stupid? What doctor in his right mind is going to help you get steroids ? And by the way, there is no test booster that actually works. And as far as those prohormones go, they shut down your body's test production. As soon as you stop taking them, you put yourself in an androgen deficit and so you lose any of the slight gains you got from them.

    By the way, whether you claim to be 176 or 186lbs, at 5'10, you're not at your natural limit. You need to learn how to eat, and probably how to train more effectively too.
    Wow... last time I explain this, companies advertise test boosters a lot, some have test in them and some don't but they should actually be marketing them as steroids (the ones with test).

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    Nobody has asked an important question. Maybe the OP is female and is in fact at her genetic limit. 176lbs for a 5'10" female is pretty impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Football47 View Post
    For those who don't know let me educate you on max potential muscle mass. Well boys and girls there is a thing called genes, not the jeans you wear and everyone has them. Muscle growth is not exponential, and to dull that down for you, you can't just gain muscle forever, you will hit a point where your body doesn't make enough testosterone to add more muscle. I know an incredible amount about lifting and the body but not as much about steroids because I've never taken them
    LMFAO!!!!!

    keep telling us your story bro........whats your age again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasc
    Nobody has asked an important question. Maybe the OP is female and is in fact at her genetic limit. 176lbs for a 5'10" female is pretty impressive.
    Good job stepping out of the box. Looks like everyone here has been being pretty insensitive, sorry football

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    There is not test in test boosters further more test is not really bio available unless it is 17AA making it harsh on the liver. However even Andriol produces poor results and is in fact oral testosterone . You clearly don`t have much knowledge of the subject and would be best served to not try and mess with your hormones until you understand a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasc View Post
    Nobody has asked an important question. Maybe the OP is female and is in fact at her genetic limit. 176lbs for a 5'10" female is pretty impressive.
    Who are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Football47 View Post
    Wow... last time I explain this, companies advertise test boosters a lot, some have test in them and some don't but they should actually be marketing them as steroids (the ones with test).
    NONE of them have test in them. It's against the law to sell a test booster with TEST in it. That d-drol stuff you mentioned was really that crappy prohormone "tren " (not to be mistaken from the actual steroid tren) mixed with designer steroids superdrol and pheraplex.

    Trust me on this, any gains you make on that will be given up when you stop taking it. You're also going to feel like crap, because d-drol will completely shut down your body's testosterone production. Not to mention the lethargy, back pumps, headaches and jump in blood pressure.

    By the way, d-drol is illegal as well.

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    Good job guys! I got my answer! Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Football47 View Post
    Good job guys! I got my answer! Thanks!
    I hope you don't do something stupid. You're not at your genetic limit at 22. Sorry Pal, but you just don't know how to eat and/or train. You might find it in your interest to go in the diet section and post your current diet. The people in there would be more than willing to help you make changes to it to enable you to reach your goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    I hope you don't do something stupid. You're not at your genetic limit at 22. Sorry Pal, but you just don't know how to eat and/or train. You might find it in your interest to go in the diet section and post your current diet. The people in there would be more than willing to help you make changes to it to enable you to reach your goals.
    I know my body. I never had questions about diets or lifting. I'll do whatever I have to do, it's not like anyone was trying to help in the first place. I bench 2x my body weight, so right there I'm doing something right.

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    If you were going to run a PH (that's what you are talking about in OP) - you would have horrible results if you only used it the days around when you workout your 'troubled' muscle group. PH's will still shut you down, so you'd want to use it consecutively every single day for a proper cycle.

    That being said, it won't give you site specific results, nor would you get any hyperplasia from it. I highly doubt at 22 years old you have maxed out your natural potential. How many years have you been lifting? What are your current macros? How do you track it? What is your routine like? I'd more likely look into your diet and routine/change it up... chances are you'll see results there.

    As for an imbalance from one delt to the other... most people are asymmetrical. There are ways to minimize it, but you'll never not be asymmetrical. That's life. My right side is bigger than my left, yet I still always place well at shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Football47 View Post
    I know my body. I never had questions about diets or lifting. I'll do whatever I have to do, it's not like anyone was trying to help in the first place. I bench 2x my body weight, so right there I'm doing something right.
    If you're stuck in a rut where you're not gaining like you claim to be, you should have questions about dieting and/or lifting. Even experienced people get in to these ruts where they don't know what to do. You're in luck that this site has some of the best minds in the worlds of bodybuilding and powerlifting on it (among other sports).

    If you choose to ignore the warning, then fine. We'll be here when you come back crying about how you abused androgens and now your dick doesn't work.

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    I've logged every lift, my weight, and the date in my note book for the past 4 years. I have a lot of notebooks full of data. Lifting for 10 years now. I don't care if I lose it after I'm off of it, because I will lose the muscle evenly throughout my body, not just in my shoulder.

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