Convincing the mrs.

**TFf** · 05-10-2013, 10:49 PM

And Austin I understand your point, but I just can't hide something.

**Perseverance1** · 05-10-2013, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by TFf

I think your idea and compromise is a little irrational. You are swinging far to one side with your examples. Of course my wife does not nit pick and tell me what to eat or not to use electricity, those are silly examples. It's simple if she asked me to come home early, if I could I would, and she would do the same, if she asked me not to do something I don't don't, and if I ask her to not do something she doesn't. It's easy it's fair it's honest and it works. That is why I would like her to be on board with it. And just looking for advise on ways to talk to her or examples of studies to site or points to bring up.
And I have seen bigger stronger faster she wasn't to impressed.

My example is extreme for a reason. You make extreme analogies to better annunciate a point you're trying to make.

The point I'm trying to make is, if you're going to do something that you know isn't going to make you "roid rage " and the only thing she seems to be worrying about is "the roid rage making you a crazy person" you need to sit her down and have a grown up talk with her.

Explain that she truly has no idea what she's talking about.
Tell her you won't "roid rage" and that you're going to start your cycle. Ask her if there's any other reason she doesn't want you to do it. Tell her you're only asking because if all she's worried about is an imaginary symptom then you're going to press on.

Yes you're a team but like I said....if she thinks turning on lights will turn you into a spud....you wouldn't stop using lights would you? IT'S THE EXACT SAME PRINCIPLE.

Take my advice, or leave it. Regardless of your decision, my advice is about as practical as it gets.

**OnTheSauce** · 05-10-2013, 11:03 PM

My girl likes me better when im on. She says im an asshole when I come off

**TFf** · 05-10-2013, 11:05 PM

That is a good point I will try to ask her concerns and debunk them as she brings them up

**austinite** · 05-10-2013, 11:09 PM

This should have been in the lounge to begin with. You're 26 bro. Make a decision and move forward. Good luck.

**breakbones** · 05-11-2013, 02:39 AM

Been doing anabolics for 10+ years. When I first brought it up to my wife she was neutral about it but rather more on the iffy side. I told her like this: "babe, I really wan to try it, i did my research WHEN I START IF YOU SEE BEHAVIOR YOU DON'T LIKE JUST LET ME KNOW AND I PROMISE TO STOP"

She was more ok about it after that conversation. Then I started and messed up doing things with people I shouldn't. As I grew older I kept telling her the same thing. well this cycle that i've been doing, she now is part of. She cycled an anavar cycle and dbol cycle. She liked it and said she will never do it again; but knowing my wife she want's to be part of my life and do what makes me happy.

So now my wife and self cycle together, we workout together, we take before and after pics of eachother. all in all we love it.

My advice,
1. don't do it period.
2. do as I did and you'll be cycling forever.

**swm1972** · 05-11-2013, 08:04 AM

Well I have been down this path myself. I didn't tell my live in girlfriend, who became my fiancé, who became my wife. When she found it I was shocked at how easy it went. She just said 'I found your little black box on the top shelf, I just wanted you to know that'. Thinking shit I am busted, I said 'its not as ominous as it appears, would you like to talk about it'. We spent less then a hour discussing it maturely and intelligently and I felt like a moron for hiding it for so long.

It really depends on the person and how much they buy into the hysteria surrounding this stuff as to how she reacts. My wife is starting her first primo cycle in the next few weeks, so obviously I have it better then most do in the open minded wife category.

**< <Samson> >** · 05-11-2013, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by patrick4588

My girl likes me better when im on. She says im an asshole when I come off

Ain't that the truth. . . . Plus she's mad happy that she gets dicked down 3x a day.

**slfmade** · 05-11-2013, 08:52 AM

My wife used to think steroids were bad and listened to all the media shit. I told her to join this forum to learn about nutrition and while she was at it learn about steroids. She joined and got really involved in her own fitness. Fast forward a couple of years and now she injects me and makes a great workout partner too.

That being said...if she didn't like it, I probably just would've told her to get over it, I'm a grown man, and I'm gonna do what I want.

**Dougiefresh7707** · 05-11-2013, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by breakbones

Been doing anabolics for 10+ years. When I first brought it up to my wife she was neutral about it but rather more on the iffy side. I told her like this: "babe, I really wan to try it, i did my research WHEN I START IF YOU SEE BEHAVIOR YOU DON'T LIKE JUST LET ME KNOW AND I PROMISE TO STOP"

She was more ok about it after that conversation. Then I started and messed up doing things with people I shouldn't. As I grew older I kept telling her the same thing. well this cycle that i've been doing, she now is part of. She cycled an anavar cycle and dbol cycle. She liked it and said she will never do it again; but knowing my wife she want's to be part of my life and do what makes me happy.

So now my wife and self cycle together, we workout together, we take before and after pics of eachother. all in all we love it.

My advice,
1. don't do it period.
2. do as I did and you'll be cycling forever.

That's cool man my girl said if I ever stuck a needle in my body it was over but we aren't married,she doesn't want to take the time to even do any research it's the way she is with everything her mind is made up about everything very closed minded.

**Perseverance1** · 05-11-2013, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by slfmade

My wife used to think steroids were bad and listened to all the media shit. I told her to join this forum to learn about nutrition and while she was at it learn about steroids. She joined and got really involved in her own fitness. Fast forward a couple of years and now she injects me and makes a great workout partner too.

That being said...if she didn't like it, I probably just would've told her to get over it, I'm a grown man, and I'm gonna do what I want.

Thank god, real men do exist! Sorry, but this forum has been giving me the impression that once you're married you hand your balls over for your new wife to make a keychain addition with them.....Smh

**tigerspawn** · 05-11-2013, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by ChiveOn

Take a 150lb asshole and add 50lbs of muscle and gym time and he's more likely to be a dickhead vocally. It's all there is to it IMO.

Take a 150 lb. asshole and they are more likely to be a dickhead verbally. You don’t have to add any extra muscle.

**BBJT200** · 05-11-2013, 12:40 PM

Never tell anyone. I agree with austinite.

**Dougiefresh7707** · 05-11-2013, 12:47 PM

[QUOTE=BBJT200;6533909]Never tell anyone. I agree with austinite.[/. I haven't told anyone only my source knows obviously and it's cool but I have 100 needles, 4 vials ,60 insulin pins what I'm getting at is it isn't easy to hide.

**krugerr** · 05-11-2013, 01:00 PM

It's unfortunate for you Americans, lucky for us in the UK, there isn't much your ex could do to get you in trouble, unless you had a lab in your kitchen.

Personally my girlfriend knows, my brother, dad, mum, stepdad all know. I'm not ashamed of it. I don't tell everyone. But those close know though.
My girlfriend and I had a few arguments about steroids , she's known since we first dated. She recently gave me the ultimatum of steroids or her, I chose her. But I clearly explained why I used, that training is important to me, and that even if I gave them up, it is something that I would want to do in the future. I clearly explained it all, how they work etc. she still wasnt happy. So I agreed to not use.
The few weeks that followed she payed attention to the forums, we would be sat on the sofa together and my dad, brother or friends would call asking about diet, gear etc, and I would explain to the best of my knowledge. She realised I wasn't just 'taking steroids', but I had an understanding and a genuine interest this whole topic. She then agreed to let me cycle.

She's now started training, we've sorted her diet, and she's taken a real interest in the whole topic. Which is nice.

I guess what I'm saying is, be honest, explain, and don't press the issue. Don't sound like an addict needing a fix.

**Showstopper1969** · 05-11-2013, 05:21 PM

It's funny , my wife, for years never did mind that I did any oral pro hormone but said I couldn't inject. About a year ago, I brought up trying test cyp, and surprisingly she said she didn't mind...I did tell her the orals were worse on the body that injecting the test. I'm about to start another run myself, after I lose a little body fat...good luck brother

**Honkey_Kong** · 05-11-2013, 07:12 PM

It's pretty simple, she's your wife and she doesn't want you doing it. Either divorce her or don't do it.

But if you think you can get away with doing it behind her back, think again. She's always going to find out about your stash and even if she doesn't find that. How are you going to explain your sudden gains? If people cant tell that you're on steroids by looking at you, then you're not doing them right.

**Lunk1** · 05-11-2013, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Perseverance1

What do you mean "you'd respect her decision"? You mean if she said no you wouldn't do it? Are you kidding me? So if she said she didn't like muscular guys would you just never go to the gym because she said so? What I'm asking is how far does this go?

If that's what marriage is then I hope to god I'm forever alone...why should she dictate what you (or he) puts into your own body? Does she get to stand over your shoulder and tell you what to eat and what not to eat as well? Again, how far does this "respecting her position" go?

I guess what I'm trying to convey here is the OP should do what he wants...at least regarding the AAS that aren't going to alter his moods or anything.

Why not do a test only cycle? Why does it matter what an ignorant spouses opinion is regarding AAS? Please, someone enlighten me.

If your spouse thinks electricity will turn you into a potato do you not use lights and go strictly to candles? Or do you ignore her cause she's ignorant and show her that flipping a light switch doesn't magically make you into a spud?

Just sayin'

So if your wife wanted to spend the mortgage payment on new shoes..you should respect her decision? If she wanted to grow her armpit hair out like a wookie and stop showernig you should just let it be? C'mon...marriage is a union were 2 become 1. This requires compromise and sometimes sacrafice.

**D2'd** · 05-11-2013, 07:28 PM

Exactly. A spouse is supposed to respect the others decisions, and be supportive. She'd probably have no problem with you smoking or drinking though, which is absurd.

**tigerspawn** · 05-11-2013, 07:36 PM

In order to have strong stable relationship you should be able to be open and honest with the person that you are with. If you must hide who you are or what you do then you are lying to the other person and don’t really have a relationship. If they don’t approve of something you do then you need to be able to work it out. If you still continue to do the behavior that your partner doesn’t approve of and she refuses to accept your behavior then you need to break up.

**TFf** · 05-11-2013, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

It's pretty simple, she's your wife and she doesn't want you doing it. Either divorce her or don't do it.

But if you think you can get away with doing it behind her back, think again. She's always going to find out about your stash and even if she doesn't find that. How are you going to explain your sudden gains? If people cant tell that you're on steroids by looking at you, then you're not doing them right.

I'm not going to do it behind her back. My goal is to try to get the media bs and uninformed misconceptions cleared up and maybe she will understand, just looking for others opinions on ways or topics to accomplish my goal

**TFf** · 05-11-2013, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by tigerspawn

In order to have strong stable relationship you should be able to be open and honest with the person that you are with. If you must hide who you are or what you do then you are lying to the other person and don’t really have a relationship. If they don’t approve of something you do then you need to be able to work it out. If you still continue to do the behavior that your partner doesn’t approve of and she refuses to accept your behavior then you need to break up.

She knows my interest, I have not cycled, I have shared me interest with her but will not unless she is ok with it.

**TFf** · 05-11-2013, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by D2'd

Exactly. A spouse is supposed to respect the others decisions, and be supportive. She'd probably have no problem with you smoking or drinking though, which is absurd.

Drinking, no ( although I don't often) smoking, yes, but that's just way way it is the we don't have politicians lumping war and beer together in the same sentence, or news anchors bringing up the fact that pro wrestlers often drank and used other illegal drugs before killing their families... It's always the "steroids "

**Euroholic** · 05-11-2013, 11:00 PM

Its your life bra do what you want, don't let other people bring you down theres plenty of wife's out there for you. If your worried about legalities move countries. And remember Its just testosterone for gods sake. the body naturally produces it all your doing is putting more in.

**nvrtd** · 05-11-2013, 11:11 PM

When your jacked you won't need to convince her.. Just sayin

**tigerspawn** · 05-11-2013, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by TFf

She knows my interest, I have not cycled, I have shared me interest with her but will not unless she is ok with it.

Find some impartial articles that discuss the positive aspects of AAS usage. Present them to her and show her that as long as you take the proper precautions and don’t over use that there is nothing to fear. Then be able to answer any questions that she has and be able to back your answers with evidence.

**Honkey_Kong** · 05-12-2013, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by TFf

I'm not going to do it behind her back. My goal is to try to get the media bs and uninformed misconceptions cleared up and maybe she will understand, just looking for others opinions on ways or topics to accomplish my goal

You're probably not going to convince her no matter how much positive evidence you come up with. Maybe your wife is the exception, but most people when they have their mind made up, you're not going to convince them otherwise. But if you must, don't bother with logic as it'll fail on her. You need to appeal to her pathos.

**livingthedream** · 05-12-2013, 04:46 AM

I had a lot of convincing to do before my first cycle. My wife was caught up I. What the media makes it out to be. Once I convinced her of the facts and sti possi me risks it came down to the fact that life is short and I wanna do it. But we also agreed my first cycle would be the trial. If she though I Became an asshole or roid raging or any health issues then I would pull the plug. Turned out I nearly finished my cycle and she didn't realize I was on. The only thing she noticx I was 30lbs heavier. Now I cycle without an issue but stil tell her when I am starting

**TFf** · 05-12-2013, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by livingthedream

I had a lot of convincing to do before my first cycle. My wife was caught up I. What the media makes it out to be. Once I convinced her of the facts and sti possi me risks it came down to the fact that life is short and I wanna do it. But we also agreed my first cycle would be the trial. If she though I Became an asshole or roid raging or any health issues then I would pull the plug. Turned out I nearly finished my cycle and she didn't realize I was on. The only thing she noticx I was 30lbs heavier. Now I cycle without an issue but stil tell her when I am starting

That's what I'm thinking is that ill mention that if there is something she does not like with my behavior or attitude that I would not donor again, and the fact that is is only test which is endogenous to start with, thanks for the positive comment