Convincing the mrs.

**TFf** · 05-10-2013, 05:33 PM

Need some advise. Maybe some of you are in the same boat as I am... I've been researching since before I joined this forum and feel that I am ready to start a cycle (27yo 5'8". Currently 178lbs, sub 15%bf). I'm able to obtain everything needed. I am married and want to keep it that way, so I run the idea by my wife but she thinks that everyone who uses steroids ends up like Chris Benoit. And says I don't want to roid rage on me or the kids. I try to explain to her that doesn't happen, the people who "rage" ABUSE steroids AND other drugs along with alcohol. But she is stuck on it and with the brief time they said they found "testosterone " in Oscar Ptstoris(sp) house she is concerned it will turn me into a bad guy. And now this movie with the rock and marky mark comes out about some dudes who kidnap kill and extort.... I mean come on! Media is not helping me out!!!
Anyways has any one delt with this or have any other suggestions, I don't want to do it behind her back, I want her to be ok with it.
Thanks for the help guys and gals!!

**austinite** · 05-10-2013, 05:35 PM

Don't tell anyone. Ever. Deny Deny Deny.

**ChiveOn** · 05-10-2013, 05:38 PM

Ugly position to be in. I personally wish I had never told my woman, were a bit extreme and it's either sex 5x a day or we hate each other. No in between lol. Needless to say if she isn't on with it.... Every argument and every fight and every time your upset about anything it's the "roid rage ". Personally I don't believe it exists.
Take a 150lb asshole and add 50lbs of muscle and gym time and he's more likely to be a dickhead vocally. It's all there is to it IMO

Tread carefully. I wouldn't tell anyone in the future.

**Nicholas1** · 05-10-2013, 05:39 PM

Welcome quite the scenario you got going

**ChiveOn** · 05-10-2013, 05:41 PM

I agree with austinite... Deny 100% don't ever tell anyone if you don't want everyone to know. Fine line to cross but I would say either don't tell her, or don't do it

**TFf** · 05-10-2013, 05:44 PM

So say I don't tell her, then I cannot keep HCG Fridge, then my nuts shrink and she knows anyway...?

**austinite** · 05-10-2013, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by TFf

So say I don't tell her, then I cannot keep HCG Fridge, then my nuts shrink and she knows anyway...?

You have a decision to make. Luckily, you don't have a million options so the decision process should come easy.

1. Find a solution for your gear, ie. place it elsewhere, at a friends place, etc... (that is for you to figure out, not us)
2. Don't cycle.

Pick one.

**johnC80** · 05-10-2013, 05:52 PM

I recently had a convo with my wife concerning starting the use of peptides. I know it's not the same, but I explained to her the positive benefits and how they vastly outweigh the negatives and possible sides.

I'd suggest making the argument that it's for an improvement to your quality of life and to help stall the aging process.

She was very supportive of this and was pleased that I did not try to hide it from her. I even mentioned to her that I am considering running anabolics in the future and her response is positive, as long as I don't 'abuse' them.

hope this helps some.

**songdog** · 05-10-2013, 06:00 PM

Why do you need to tell her?

**anabolicphreak** · 05-10-2013, 06:03 PM

Since you've already ran the idea past her. she knows so Show her bigger stronger faster. Good video, shedding some light on the medias role in blowin shit outta the water as usual. It convinced my woman. And shed some light on the positives maybe.

**jimmy726** · 05-10-2013, 06:04 PM

I have never cycled but want to my.old lady was against bad. Well I made a deal with her. I bought her a phone if she would be cool with it and that worked.

**Lunk1** · 05-10-2013, 07:45 PM

It's simple...she doesnt want you to do it. It's an illegal drug and you are not a TRT patient. Don't do it!

For god sakes do NOT try to do it and not tell her!

**frank13** · 05-10-2013, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

It's simple...she doesnt want you to do it. It's an illegal drug and you are not a TRT patient. Don't do it!

For god sakes do NOT try to do it and not tell her!

yea your married dude if she wanted to do steroids and u didn't want her too u would be pissed if see did it behind your back right

**Sgt. Hartman** · 05-10-2013, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

It's simple...she doesnt want you to do it. It's an illegal drug and you are not a TRT patient. Don't do it!

For god sakes do NOT try to do it and not tell her!

So if your old lady were opposed to it you'd never take steroids or any other controlled substances again?

**austinite** · 05-10-2013, 08:48 PM

I don't care if it's your brother, mother, son, sister, wife or whatever... never tell. You'll find out why REAL quick when the shit hits the fan.

**TFf** · 05-10-2013, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by songdog

Why do you need to tell her?

Because she is my wife and I have no intentions of going behind her back, I would not like her to do that to me.

**TFf** · 05-10-2013, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by jimmy726

I have never cycled but want to my.old lady was against bad. Well I made a deal with her. I bought her a phone if she would be cool with it and that worked.

Haha that would be easy. I wish!

**austinite** · 05-10-2013, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by TFf

Because she is my wife and I have no intentions of going behind her back, I would not like her to do that to me.

Then you're wasting your time

- dont cycle.

**TFf** · 05-10-2013, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

It's simple...she doesnt want you to do it. It's an illegal drug and you are not a TRT patient. Don't do it!

For god sakes do NOT try to do it and not tell her!

Lunk, I will not do it with out her Consent, that is why I am seeking advise from y'all on other was to approach or convince her

**austinite** · 05-10-2013, 09:07 PM

lol. You could always trade the skirt for a pair of pants.

kidding of course

**ironbeck** · 05-10-2013, 09:12 PM

Well one thing you can do is research for the best video backed by science that is pro steroids and shows and explains the truth about steroids in a positive light.... and have her watch it, or well it's your wife and family, respect her wishes and just don't do it.

**HeartBreaker** · 05-10-2013, 09:13 PM

i wouldn't get on the slop if i was you. maybe keep talking to her about it and how its safe etc. if she finally says ok then get on the product. your already married and i praise your honesty u should keep it that way with her.

**TFf** · 05-10-2013, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by frank13

yea your married dude if she wanted to do steroids and u didn't want her too u would be pissed if see did it behind your back right

That's exactly why I'm not doing it behind her back

**TFf** · 05-10-2013, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

lol. You could always trade the skirt for a pair of pants.

kidding of course

Do I have to give up my purse and heels too?
Haha I don't wear the pants or the skirt.

**TFf** · 05-10-2013, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

I don't care if it's your brother, mother, son, sister, wife or whatever... never tell. You'll find out why REAL quick when the shit hits the fan.

Are you referring to if you argue they will blame the "roid rage "

**HeartBreaker** · 05-10-2013, 09:26 PM

orals are easier to hide, make sure u take the ones that dont make ur dick limp though. im no pro so do a lil research or PM a mod, their is a lot of vets on this site about it. also a great sticky section

**TFf** · 05-10-2013, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by HeartBreaker

i wouldn't get on the slop if i was you. maybe keep talking to her about it and how its safe etc. if she finally says ok then get on the product. your already married and i praise your honesty u should keep it that way with her.

Thanks bro! We have a great marriage and I will not cycle if she is not ok with it, just trying to make her ok with it

**< <Samson> >** · 05-10-2013, 09:34 PM

This is not something you can hide behind your significant others back.

Why? It's too much, pins, syringes, vials, you get bigger, need HCG in the fridge, get mood swings along with other random sides.

If you don't live together? Why say anything?

If you live together and lie, this will damn near guarantee to fvck you in the long run.

Although it may be possible to hide, but you have to understand what it is that you are hiding. There are plenty of thing my GF does not know, but she does not even care to know.

Originally my Gf is who got me to start my 1st run. I said I could stick myself, she said "don't be a pvssy, I'll give you the shots until you can do them yourself". About a litre of sauce later, I am here.

Understand what you are doing, understand what is on the line. There are many new things that I work with on a regular basis. Any of which can end my normal civilian/home life as we know it quickly.

Gl bro. . . . I brought this up to my Axe wife - She said; "you are a fvcking idiot and I will leave the moment you start". < Yeah - - - My current Gf and her don't have much in common.

**austinite** · 05-10-2013, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by TFf

Are you referring to if you argue they will blame the "roid rage"

No, I'm referring to the possibility of breaking up and them calling LE and doing whatever they can to harm you.

**< <Samson> >** · 05-10-2013, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

I'm referring to the possibility of breaking up and them calling LE and doing whatever they can to harm you.

This is factual information, this can and will be held over your head very hard if it comes down to it.

**jdubb1977** · 05-10-2013, 09:52 PM

Honesty is the way to go. Hid it from my wife for years. When I came clean, she was more pissed I hid it from her than me actually using. Now, she helps me with my pins in my delts. She likes to be involved. She also trusts me and knows I did my research. She knows I'm smart about it. Someone else suggested Bigger, Faster, Stronger. It is a pretty objective view of PED's. If she's opened to it, watch it with her and try to answer as many questions as she has...

**Lunk1** · 05-10-2013, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by frank13

yea your married dude if she wanted to do steroids and u didn't want her too u would be pissed if see did it behind your back right

Exactly...thats why I said do NOT do it behind her back. Marriage is compromise...sometimes you make sacrifices to make the other happy.

**austinite** · 05-10-2013, 10:09 PM

Who cares. Cover your ass.

**Lunk1** · 05-10-2013, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman

So if your old lady were opposed to it you'd never take steroids or any other controlled substances again?

I dont take any other controlled substances and as far as steroids go...I trained my bitch better

J/K...I was completely open from the start and she didnt care. But to answer more directly..yes! If she completely was opposed then I would respect her position considering it's not a neccessity vs something I want.

**Perseverance1** · 05-10-2013, 10:21 PM

Tell her too fvcking bad and do it anyway. Seriously, just stick to test only, run an AI and HCG and when she sees you're not any different other than more muscular and horny a lot maybe she will realize she's an uninformed ignorant person. No offense, my mom is just as ignorant and honestly sometimes I want to wring her neck for some of the idiotic comments she makes.

If she wants to be stubborn about being wrong show her this thread and what all of us said.

Seriously, people talking out of their ass about anything (but ESP AAS or weightlifting in general) makes me want to rage....and I'm saying this not being on any roids at all.

**Dougiefresh7707** · 05-10-2013, 10:26 PM

My question would be when you blow up considering diet and training is optimal do you not think she might suspect something?

**Perseverance1** · 05-10-2013, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I dont take any other controlled substances and as far as steroids go...I trained my bitch better

J/K...I was completely open from the start and she didnt care. But to answer more directly..yes! If she completely was opposed then I would respect her position considering it's not a neccessity vs something I want.

What do you mean "you'd respect her decision"? You mean if she said no you wouldn't do it? Are you kidding me? So if she said she didn't like muscular guys would you just never go to the gym because she said so? What I'm asking is how far does this go?

If that's what marriage is then I hope to god I'm forever alone...why should she dictate what you (or he) puts into your own body? Does she get to stand over your shoulder and tell you what to eat and what not to eat as well? Again, how far does this "respecting her position" go?

I guess what I'm trying to convey here is the OP should do what he wants...at least regarding the AAS that aren't going to alter his moods or anything.

Why not do a test only cycle? Why does it matter what an ignorant spouses opinion is regarding AAS? Please, someone enlighten me.

If your spouse thinks electricity will turn you into a potato do you not use lights and go strictly to candles? Or do you ignore her cause she's ignorant and show her that flipping a light switch doesn't magically make you into a spud?

Just sayin'

**Red Bastard** · 05-10-2013, 10:36 PM

You could watch the documentary "Bigger, stronger faster", with her...

It's on YouTube.

**Dougiefresh7707** · 05-10-2013, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Perseverance1

What do you mean "you'd respect her decision"? You mean if she said no you wouldn't do it? Are you kidding me? So if she said she didn't like muscular guys would you just never go to the gym because she said so? What I'm asking is how far does this go?

If that's what marriage is then I hope to god I'm forever alone...why should she dictate what you (or he) puts into your own body? Does she get to stand over your shoulder and tell you what to eat and what not to eat as well? Again, how far does this "respecting her position" go?

I guess what I'm trying to convey here is the OP should do what he wants...at least regarding the AAS that aren't going to alter his moods or anything.

Why not do a test only cycle? Why does it matter what an ignorant spouses opinion is regarding AAS? Please, someone enlighten me.

If your spouse thinks electricity will turn you into a potato do you not use lights and go strictly to candles? Or do you ignore her cause she's ignorant and show her that flipping a light switch doesn't magically make you into a spud?

Just sayin'

I'm sorry but you have to see where the difference between what you eat or electricity and doing AAS , I do see where it may be frustrating if you have to compromise if your set on things you want , I am horrible if I was married I wouldn't have listened to tell you the truth lol in just saying the comparison is two different side of the spectrum.

**TFf** · 05-10-2013, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Perseverance1

What do you mean "you'd respect her decision"? You mean if she said no you wouldn't do it? Are you kidding me? So if she said she didn't like muscular guys would you just never go to the gym because she said so? What I'm asking is how far does this go?

If that's what marriage is then I hope to god I'm forever alone...why should she dictate what you (or he) puts into your own body? Does she get to stand over your shoulder and tell you what to eat and what not to eat as well? Again, how far does this "respecting her position" go?

I guess what I'm trying to convey here is the OP should do what he wants...at least regarding the AAS that aren't going to alter his moods or anything.

Why not do a test only cycle? Why does it matter what an ignorant spouses opinion is regarding AAS? Please, someone enlighten me.

If your spouse thinks electricity will turn you into a potato do you not use lights and go strictly to candles? Or do you ignore her cause she's ignorant and show her that flipping a light switch doesn't magically make you into a spud?

Just sayin'

I think your idea and compromise is a little irrational. You are swinging far to one side with your examples. Of course my wife does not nit pick and tell me what to eat or not to use electricity, those are silly examples. It's simple if she asked me to come home early, if I could I would, and she would do the same, if she asked me not to do something I don't don't, and if I ask her to not do something she doesn't. It's easy it's fair it's honest and it works. That is why I would like her to be on board with it. And just looking for advise on ways to talk to her or examples of studies to site or points to bring up.
And I have seen bigger stronger faster she wasn't to impressed.