Am I ready for cycle yet.

**dickster** · 06-21-2013, 12:43 PM

Ok, so it's been over a month.

Lost 8 lbs, around 18 % bf, but that's not bad for 53 yo.
Blood pressure has been tested on 24 hour monitor.
Average 126/76.

Blood tests have returned, unfortunately it seems some values have not been, checked as follows.

Blood glucose 5.4 mol/L
Basophils count 0.1 10*9l
Haematocrit 0.453 ratio
Lymphocyte count 1.4. 10*9l
Total white cell count. 3.8. 10*9l
RBC 5.17. 10*12l
Platelet count. 196. 10*9l
Neutrophil count. 1.9. 10*9l
Monocytes count. 0.4. 10*9l
Mean corpuscular vol. 87.6 fl
Mean corpuscular Hb. Conc. 336 g/L
Mean corpuscular haemogloblin. 29.4 pg
Haemogloblin estimation 152 g/L
Eosinophil count. 0.1 10*9l
GFR calculated abbreviated MDRD 58u
Serum globulin 28 g/l
Serum C. Reactive protein level. 7mg/l
Serum total protein 69 g/l
Serum sodium. 142 mmol/L
Serum potassium. 5 mmol/L
Serum creatinine 115 umol/L
Serum bilirubin level 12 Umol/L
Serum alanine amino transferase. 13 u/l
Serum alkaline amino transferase. 74 u/l
Serum albumin. 41 g/l
PSA. 1.4 ug/l
Serum test. 12. 8 nmol/L
Serum free t4. 11 pmol/L
Serum TSH 2.1 mlU/L

Only one to come back with any concer was
Creatinine.
Possibly down to dehydration.

Cycle Test E, 200-250 twice a week.
Ancillaries.
HCG 250 iu eod.
Armidex .25 eod
Nolvadex , staggered pct 50,40,20,10
Clomid, Staggered pct 50, 40, 20,10

Supplements.
Saw plamento.
Milk thistle.
Multi vit.
Flax oil.
Anything recommended ?

I will attempt to reduce body fat a bit more before cycle.

Age 53
Training since teenager, all other infor has already been posted.

Is it time for me?
Welcome any feedback.

**Times Roman** · 06-21-2013, 01:20 PM

the older you get, the more you should let your body rest between cycles.

typical response to your question is

time off = time on + pct

not knowing how long your last cycle was, it's tough to say.

having said that, your last cycle was not extreme, and was only test (or is this your proposed next cycle?). your blood pressure is "normal". If your sexual function is normal....

I'd err to the side of caution and waiting, but I won't flame you if you start after dropping some more BF%

I'd be more aggressive with my response to you if you were a youngster, but you are not.

Good luck!
---Roman

**stpete** · 06-21-2013, 01:34 PM

Yeah, need to know your last cycle. In detail.

**Back In Black** · 06-21-2013, 01:41 PM

This will be his first.

**Bossman** · 06-21-2013, 01:45 PM

I can't imagine trying to recover at 53. I decided several years ago to stop trying to recover and instead cruise between cycles. I do compete and that did influence my decision. However I give anyone I talk to over 40 the same advice. If they want to cycle, start cruising between cycles. Recovery will become harder after each cycle regardless of age. At 53 you are most likely not ever going to produce the test your body once could.

Added: I missed that this is his first cycle. Well, I would cruise between cycles at this point. JMO

**Times Roman** · 06-21-2013, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

This will be his first.

the way he structured his questions seems to suggest otherwise...

"Ok, so it's been over a month" (what's been over a month?)

you may be right if he is saying that it's been a month since his last post?

**Back In Black** · 06-21-2013, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

the way he structured his questions seems to suggest otherwise...

"Ok, so it's been over a month" (what's been over a month?)

you may be right if he is saying that it's been a month since his last post?

I know. But I think it's a month since he joined. It is his virgin cycle he is planning though, or so every other post he's made suggests.

**dickster** · 06-21-2013, 03:41 PM

Thanks BIB, yes it is a month since joining and was getting everything in place, ie bloods, blood pressure check, ECG, ass, AI, pct, ect.

This is my first ever cycle, so will be taking thing extra careful.
Sorry for the confusion Roman.

Not sure what the term cruising between cycles means?

Should I stick to 200 te, twice a week.

**dickster** · 06-21-2013, 03:45 PM

Anyone got an opinion on the bloods I posted
I don't see anything to be concerned about, but would welcome advice.

**scorpion62** · 06-21-2013, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by dickster

Thanks BIB, yes it is a month since joining and was getting everything in place, ie bloods, blood pressure check, ECG, ass, AI, pct, ect.

This is my first ever cycle, so will be taking thing extra careful.
Sorry for the confusion Roman.

Not sure what the term cruising between cycles means?

Should I stick to 200 te, twice a week.

Cruise means rather than do a recovery you stay on taking an amp per week

**crazy mike** · 06-21-2013, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by scorpion62

Cruise means rather than do a recovery you stay on taking an amp per week

what's an amp??? ...crazy mike

**Bossman** · 06-21-2013, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by dickster

Not sure what the term cruising between cycles means?
.

Sorry, cruising would be using a test replacement dose between cycles. As in 100-150 mgs per week to keep your test in the normal range. Recovering for anyone over 40 is a difficult proposition. I cruise at 250 and throw in a 125 of deca because I don't want to be normal, but that's me.

**MajorPectorial** · 06-21-2013, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Bossman

Sorry, cruising would be using a test replacement dose between cycles. As in 100-150 mgs per week to keep your test in the normal range. Recovering for anyone over 40 is a difficult proposition. I cruise at 250 and throw in a 125 of deca because I don't want to be normal, but that's me.

That u in the avin. Amazin' if so. How long u been cruising? What u found works for u?

**Back In Black** · 06-22-2013, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by dickster

Thanks BIB, yes it is a month since joining and was getting everything in place, ie bloods, blood pressure check, ECG, ass, AI, pct, ect.

This is my first ever cycle, so will be taking thing extra careful.
Sorry for the confusion Roman.

Not sure what the term cruising between cycles means?

Should I stick to 200 te, twice a week.

Without knowing the ranges it's almost impossible to tell. Do you have them?

**scorpion62** · 06-22-2013, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

what's an amp??? ...crazy mike

Sorry CM an amp = Ampule

**Bossman** · 06-22-2013, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by MajorPectorial

That u in the avin. Amazin' if so. How long u been cruising? What u found works for u?

Yes that's me. I'm 50 and decided 4-5 years ago to give up trying to recover between cycles. I was not always having blood results checked but could feel I was really never recovering. Giving my body a break yes, but not really recovering. Maybe if I gave myself more time but I also compete and felt like my overall time was at a premium if I still wanted to build between competition as well as being "on" while prepping. So I cruise once or twice a year for 8 weeks or so with 200-250 test a week and usually a little deca . This is more then TRT and I can still make small gains and I feel like I'm keeping my super naturally built muscle.