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    What did you look like BEFORE you started using steroids?

    Hi everyone, I'm 20 years old and have been training naturally for two years. I'm really curious to see what kind of physique is truly attainable naturally. I know everyone is different and genetics play such a huge role, but I'd really like to see some pictures of how big some of you were before juicing. If you could post a picture with a caption saying how long you'd been training for and your weight/height in the picture, then I would be really grateful. I'd really like to see what's possible naturally. I would love to believe that you can still look really good without steroids , these days you just don't know which "natty's" are telling the truth though.

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    When I decided I wanted to get into bodybuilding I weighed 153lbs. I bulked up naturally to about 190 and when I dieted down to 6% I was 167. Next go around I bulked up to right at 200lbs, took an enormous amount of food, I mean borderline ridiculous. Again, still natural and I dieted down to 6% again and this time I weighed 171. After that I said screw this I'm using gear. I then easily bulked up to 220 with far less food, was leaner than 200lbs naturally. For the next few years I'd bulk up to 220-230 (one year almost 240, way too fat) and I would diet down to 195-197 and would hold a BF of 4-5%. That's my story.

    As far as how I looked, well I looked awesome at all my weights natural or not, but that's just because I'm awesome

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    Haha cool thanks for the reply man. How long did you train for before you started using gear and what age did you start? It's such a temptation for me and I really want to believe that a great physique can be achieved without steroids

    Also do you think that at my height (5'11") 185-190lbs at 8-10% bodyfat could be achieved naturally?

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    Genetics are the biggest factor here. I've seen some guys who are still natural and look like they are loaded out of their minds on gear. They work out twice a week and eat whatever they want, but they have god-like genes....Unless someone knows how the genetics are in your family - it's going to be hard to answer that.

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    Yeah I understand this, I just kind of wanted to know what was achievable for say someone with average or slightly above average genetics. I'd also consider myself a mesomorph if that helps at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard
    I had more hair on my head and less on my back and ears..


    What did you look like BEFORE you started using steroids?-image-389215208.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by boisebeast View Post
    Haha cool thanks for the reply man. How long did you train for before you started using gear and what age did you start? It's such a temptation for me and I really want to believe that a great physique can be achieved without steroids

    Also do you think that at my height (5'11") 185-190lbs at 8-10% bodyfat could be achieved naturally?
    I started lifting weights religiously at the age of 14. Was always sort of the chunky strong kid. Lost the weight and held the low 153-160lbs for awhile. Started using gear around age 20 I think...the more I think about it I might have been 21, I honestly can't remember.

    Yes, your goal is attainable naturally, but it will take time and it won't be easy. Saying it won't be easy isn't to discourage you, that's just stating the truth but it's not unrealistic. I'd like to think I could have done the same but I was impatient and had bodybuilding glory on the brain, which looking back is retarded glory, lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    I started lifting weights religiously at the age of 14. Was always sort of the chunky strong kid. Lost the weight and held the low 153-160lbs for awhile. Started using gear around age 20 I think...the more I think about it I might have been 21, I honestly can't remember.

    Yes, your goal is attainable naturally, but it will take time and it won't be easy. Saying it won't be easy isn't to discourage you, that's just stating the truth but it's not unrealistic. I'd like to think I could have done the same but I was impatient and had bodybuilding glory on the brain, which looking back is retarded glory, lol!

    Patience is definitely the hardest part lol, do you regret starting gear at 20/21? Have you suffered any bad long term side effects from it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post

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    Lmao he looks like cape!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boisebeast View Post
    Haha cool thanks for the reply man. How long did you train for before you started using gear and what age did you start? It's such a temptation for me and I really want to believe that a great physique can be achieved without steroids

    Also do you think that at my height (5'11") 185-190lbs at 8-10% bodyfat could be achieved naturally?
    Definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    When I decided I wanted to get into bodybuilding I weighed 153lbs. I bulked up naturally to about 190 and when I dieted down to 6% I was 167. Next go around I bulked up to right at 200lbs, took an enormous amount of food, I mean borderline ridiculous. Again, still natural and I dieted down to 6% again and this time I weighed 171. After that I said screw this I'm using gear. I then easily bulked up to 220 with far less food, was leaner than 200lbs naturally. For the next few years I'd bulk up to 220-230 (one year almost 240, way too fat) and I would diet down to 195-197 and would hold a BF of 4-5%. That's my story.

    As far as how I looked, well I looked awesome at all my weights natural or not, but that's just because I'm awesome
    Would love to see this % transformation these digits u speak of competing stats...............

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    When I first started seriously looking into steroids I was 21. 6'0, 205lbs, 18-19%bf. maybe 20.
    I took a year and a half to diet down to 170 10-11%bf putting me at 22 and some change. Still a bit early but I took my time to at least put my body into better shape and get my nutrition down before I started.
    Had I been more patient I could've attained my 188 11% that I'm sitting at off cycle right now with some work but I had waited long enough I had thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdos900

    lmao he looks like cape!
    yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    This was me:

    <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=142298"/>
    Perfect base to start AAS kel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boisebeast View Post
    Patience is definitely the hardest part lol, do you regret starting gear at 20/21? Have you suffered any bad long term side effects from it?
    No, I don't regret it or say I'm glad I did it. I'm indifferent. I'm on TRT now, which in my opinion I probably would have ended up on even if I had waited. You don't use gear for 10yrs almost non-stop and not end up on TRT. Do I regret that? Well, it's not like being on TRT really affects my life in any negative way. I take one injection of testosterone on Mon. morning and that takes all of 60 seconds. I also inject HCG on Mon. and Thu. so we're looking at a total time of 2.5min a week more or less. And in my opinion, prior gear use or not, many men over 30 will benefit from TRT and most all will over 40.

    Other issues: no health issues. My hair is thinner on top, which would have happened anyway but probably a little later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boz View Post
    Would love to see this % transformation these digits u speak of competing stats...............
    Yes. And not overnight. That post was a summary of a 10yr period.

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    This is after two years of hrt and slot of gym time.
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    I'm 6'1 and achieved 205 @ 10% naturally at age 20, and now sit about 240 15-ish%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    Perfect base to start AAS kel!
    I'm thinking I should start soon.

    Still in the same gym too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tectime View Post
    This is after two years of hrt and slot of gym time.

    Wow, that's unreal

    Seriously without juice I wouldn't be the same as I am now.


    But, genetics are a huge part of your physique. I do see guys who I know are not sauced and they look the same as me or even better. . . Not fair, I know. Way up there with being born wealthy. Don't think about it, it'll give you a headache.

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    To this natty



    And I started juice shortly after (too soon I may add)

    And here is pretty current.




    Last edited by OnTheSauce; 08-01-2013 at 01:05 PM.

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    BIG difference OTS! I'm now blind though due to the last pic!
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    All my progress was made on a power lifter routine. First time doing a bodybuilder type routine started last month

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    I pretty much cut my teeth in a gym full of powerlifters. I was the only BB-er so I had to train with them a lot. I highly recommend it to any BB-er. Powerlifting helps BB-ing and vice versa. Just plain fun too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    Definitely.
    Thanks for the opinion
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiveOn View Post
    When I first started seriously looking into steroids I was 21. 6'0, 205lbs, 18-19%bf. maybe 20.
    I took a year and a half to diet down to 170 10-11%bf putting me at 22 and some change. Still a bit early but I took my time to at least put my body into better shape and get my nutrition down before I started.
    Had I been more patient I could've attained my 188 11% that I'm sitting at off cycle right now with some work but I had waited long enough I had thought
    Thanks for sharing your experience, I really hope I can be patient enough to try to achieve my goal without hopping on gear
    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    No, I don't regret it or say I'm glad I did it. I'm indifferent. I'm on TRT now, which in my opinion I probably would have ended up on even if I had waited. You don't use gear for 10yrs almost non-stop and not end up on TRT. Do I regret that? Well, it's not like being on TRT really affects my life in any negative way. I take one injection of testosterone on Mon. morning and that takes all of 60 seconds. I also inject HCG on Mon. and Thu. so we're looking at a total time of 2.5min a week more or less. And in my opinion, prior gear use or not, many men over 30 will benefit from TRT and most all will over 40.

    Other issues: no health issues. My hair is thinner on top, which would have happened anyway but probably a little later on.
    The possibility of TRT makes me a bit weary, but it seems like it doesn't really affect your quality of life. I appreciate all of your serious responses
    Quote Originally Posted by Fcarey32 View Post
    I'm 6'1 and achieved 205 @ 10% naturally at age 20, and now sit about 240 15-ish%
    That's great! I wish I had started training earlier so I could be sitting similarly to where you were at 20
    [QUOTE=OnTheSauce;6631682]


    To this natty


    And I started juice shortly after (too soon I may add)

    And here is pretty current.


    Damn you have an incredible physique
    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I pretty much cut my teeth in a gym full of powerlifters. I was the only BB-er so I had to train with them a lot. I highly recommend it to any BB-er. Powerlifting helps BB-ing and vice versa. Just plain fun too.
    Definitely something to consider for a change of pace


    Thank you all so much for your serious responses
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    I pretty much cut my teeth in a gym full of powerlifters. I was the only BB-er so I had to train with them a lot. I highly recommend it to any BB-er. Powerlifting helps BB-ing and vice versa. Just plain fun too.
    I hurt everywhere. Feels like I just picked up weights for the first time

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    Here's a nice time line. . . Ummm, juice works


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    You had some diet changes too

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheSauce View Post
    You had some diet changes too
    A tad

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post

    A tad
    Consumed more juice ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdos900 View Post
    Consumed more juice ?

    Lots more juice & a dry ass diet

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post

    Lots more juice & a dry ass diet
    I need to knuckle down on the diet made good progress samson

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    Sad to say, the diet is still more important than the sauce. I found that part out for myself in cycle #1.


    Specially for myself, the diet has to be very dry, low carb and lean. Or, i just blow up and turn into a pile - Juice or no juice. With juice, I'm just a bigger stronger pile.

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    What did you look like BEFORE you started using steroids?-image.jpgWhat did you look like BEFORE you started using steroids?-image.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by boisebeast
    Thanks for the opinion

    Thanks for sharing your experience, I really hope I can be patient enough to try to achieve my goal without hopping on gear

    The possibility of TRT makes me a bit weary, but it seems like it doesn't really affect your quality of life. I appreciate all of your serious responses

    That's great! I wish I had started training earlier so I could be sitting similarly to where you were at 20
    You can achieve your goals natty, it may be a pain in the ass, but it's worth it brother.

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    145 @ 24
    195. @ 34
    Really big difference! Nice. And carpentry work upside down must be really difficult.
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    Lol you have no idea. Strong toes helps
    Thank you. Mostly done natty have just in the past year tried aas. They have been an amazing tool to get where I want. I was stuck at 175 for years.

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