First cycle, 300mg per week

[musemark]

Hey everyone,
Started a test-e cycle 7 weeks ago at 300mg per week. i have all PCT available, Chlomid and Nolva.
i am also using a small amount of liquidex every other day.
29 years old and 176 pounds. Im looking for advice on my current cycle, as well as advice on when i should start PCT after the cycle. Any other info such as relevant tests i should get done eg. blood etc. would be appreciated.
I understand people may want more info on my circumstances, so fire away.
cheers for your help!

[itsjayman02]

Hey everyone,
Started a test-e cycle 7 weeks ago at 300mg per week. i have all PCT available, Chlomid and Nolva.
i am also using a small amount of liquidex every other day.
29 years old and 176 pounds. Im looking for advice on my current cycle, as well as advice on when i should start PCT after the cycle. Any other info such as relevant tests i should get done eg. blood etc. would be appreciated.
I understand people may want more info on my circumstances, so fire away.
cheers for your help!

Stats are normally posted
Age
Weight
Height
Body fat
Previous Cycles
Pct knowledge
Ai and hcg knowledge
Goals!!

The problem here is your already into your cycle but now asking advice on it!!

[king6 II]

As mentioned above, any questions you have in regards to running a cycle or PCT should have all been answered before you started this cycle. PCT should be started 14 days after your last shot of test e, what is your PCT protocol? How much is a "small amount" of liquidex?

[kelkel]

Muse take a look at Austinites Educational Articles Database at the top of this forum. It's one of the sticky threads. It'll break down exactly what you SHOULD be doing.

[derekkpapa1]

why are you run at 300mg a week you should be around 500mg a week. As jays man said you need to detail your cycle out- hcg ?? Goals?? are you running for 12 weeks??
^^^^ sorry guys you are quick

[musemark]

thanks Itsjayman,
29
176 pounds
5 foot 11 inches tall
unknown bodyfat percentage, will get that measured soon but i would say i am at an ideal weight for my age and height as per the index on this site.
My knowledge regarding Pct is very basic however i do have the gear for the PCT. ordered through R.I. products.
Ai and HCG knowledge are next to nil.
My ideal goal is to put on a reasonable amount of size which is proportional to my figures as far as height goes. i am committed to my training and always push myself, although i will need advice on my nutrition.
I really did fire from the hip on this one, but i am midway through the cycle now and would like to iron out any problems i may have by the end of it.
so once again, any advice is greatly appreciated! cheers!

[king6 II]

thanks Itsjayman,
29
176 pounds
5 foot 11 inches tall
unknown bodyfat percentage, will get that measured soon but i would say i am at an ideal weight for my age and height as per the index on this site.
My knowledge regarding Pct is very basic however i do have the gear for the PCT. ordered through R.I. products.
Ai and HCG knowledge are next to nil.
My ideal goal is to put on a reasonable amount of size which is proportional to my figures as far as height goes. i am committed to my training and always push myself, although i will need advice on my nutrition.
I really did fire from the hip on this one, but i am midway through the cycle now and would like to iron out any problems i may have by the end of it.
so once again, any advice is greatly appreciated! cheers!

This is likely why your cycle will fail. Post your current diet.

[musemark]

Breakfast: 8 scrambled eggs
lunch: half chicken
afternoon snack: 185gram tin of tuna
dinner: steak and 2 chicken breasts

I know it doesnt sound like alot but i struggle to eat heaps of food during the day!

[Black]

Breakfast: 8 scrambled eggs
lunch: half chicken
afternoon snack: 185gram tin of tuna
dinner: steak and 2 chicken breasts

I know it doesnt sound like alot but i struggle to eat heaps of food during the day!

I would stop the cycle now and start pct in 2 weeks from your last shot.

Are you just eating protein? No carbs or additional fats?

[king6 II]

Breakfast: 8 scrambled eggs
lunch: half chicken
afternoon snack: 185gram tin of tuna
dinner: steak and 2 chicken breasts

I know it doesnt sound like alot but i struggle to eat heaps of food during the day!

Almost all protein and no carbs. Check out the nutrition section and read the sticky's about bulking. With a diet like that and a low dose of test your gains are going to be very little outside of water weight while on cycle.

[MuscleInk]

If you are not running an AI, you need to get one ASAP. Uncontrolled rising estrogen contributes to a number of cardiac risks and prostate disease. You are putting your health at greater risk without an AI.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...le-swifto.html


***Can someone post Igi's thread on the importance of controlling estrogen please?***

[redz]

Dose was too low for sure. Not enough food either do you eat any carbs?

[king6 II]

I would stop the cycle now and start pct in 2 weeks from your last shot.

Are you just eating protein? No carbs or additional fats?

Damn. I gotta learn to type faster, this is the second time today.

[king6 II]

***Can someone post Igi's thread on the importance of controlling estrogen please?***

Got it covered.

The Dangers of Elevated Estrogen in Men

[kelkel]

Right now I'm glad his dose is low. It's the only thing he's got going for him.....

[MuscleInk]

Got it covered.

The Dangers of Elevated Estrogen in Men

Thanks King!

[musemark]

Well obviously i need to fix this. currently solving the AI problem. My diet does include carbs, Wholemeal bread with the eggs for breakfast, bread with my lunch and potatoes for dinner, every other night i throw in pasta or some other form of carb.

[musemark]

If you are not running an AI, you need to get one ASAP. Uncontrolled rising estrogen contributes to a number of cardiac risks and prostate disease. You are putting your health at greater risk without an AI.

***Can someone post Igi's thread on the importance of controlling estrogen please?***

Just read up regarding the importance of running an AI
So would 10mg ED of letro be adequate?

Isnt the liquidex im currently taking able to take care of this potential problem?

cheers!

[redz]

10mg of letro will make your estrogen 0. Terrible idea!

[king6 II]

Every bulking diet should be well calculated. You need to figure out your TDEE, figure out your maintenance calories than factor in a surplus. Then you need to figure out what percentage of you calories needs to be fats, carbs and protein. If you want the most from a cycle, your diet needs to be in check. It is a little more complicated than just eating a bunch of food. Make sure you know the difference between complex and simple carbs.

[slates]

Breakfast: 8 scrambled eggs
lunch: half chicken
afternoon snack: 185gram tin of tuna
dinner: steak and 2 chicken breasts

I know it doesnt sound like alot but i struggle to eat heaps of food during the day!

If you struggle to eat food, then look into GHRP-2 or GHRP-6. Add in CJC-1295 as well for an extra HGH boost. I too have a hard time eating, and these peptides have helped a lot when I'm bulking.

[musemark]

If you struggle to eat food, then look into GHRP-2 or GHRP-6. Add in CJC-1295 as well for an extra HGH boost. I too have a hard time eating, and these peptides have helped a lot when I'm bulking.

Cheers for the advice. Im not keen to throw in the towel just yet, id prefer to see out the cycle. unless it is going to be a dead set waste of time, and you think i would be better off ending the cycle now and starting PCT in 2 weeks.
The small amount of information that i know now was from friends who clearly had no idea what they were talking about. Maybe get everything sorted out as far as nutrition goes then start another cycle in 14 weeks?

[MuscleInk]

Just read up regarding the importance of running an AI
So would 10mg ED of letro be adequate?

Isnt the liquidex im currently taking able to take care of this potential problem?

cheers!

No, letro is too harsh. I missed your reference to adex in the first post. All good if you're dosing .25-.50mg EOD.

Sorry for the confusion.

[musemark]

No, letro is too harsh. I missed your reference to adex in the first post. All good if you're dosing .25-.50mg EOD.

Sorry for the confusion.

no problems ive been taking 1mg of liquidex EOD so are you saying i should drop this down to .50mg?

[MuscleInk]

no problems ive been taking 1mg of liquidex EOD so are you saying i should drop this down to .50mg?

Preferably, yes. 1mg EOD is a little much. Most guys will cycle with .25-.50mg max. Drop back to .50mg and see how that feels.

[musemark]

Preferably, yes. 1mg EOD is a little much. Most guys will cycle with .25-.50mg max. Drop back to .50mg and see how that feels.

Ok no worries, thanks for the info! would it be advisable to stay on this cycle to completion then? then start PCT 14 days after?

[musemark]

Right now I'm glad his dose is low. It's the only thing he's got going for him.....

yep you're probably right there but i need to get it sorted out, and your advice is appreciated!

[marcus300]

You will lose all gains (that's if you get any) after the cycle due to your diet not be able to support any new tissue, you need to build a solid base and foundation from hardwork and a solid diet. All your doing is living of steroids and your body will go back to how it was before once you stop. I would suggest to stop the cycle go into pct and sort out your diet and also look at your training. You may think steroids are the answer to build new tissue but you are wrong it all starts at your diet and your is awful. Best of luck and I hope you follow my advice.