Summer cycle and HCG Doubts

**EKFitness** · 02-05-2014, 11:08 AM

I'll be running 500mg / week sust for 10 weeks

anavar 80mg/day weeks 4-12

and nolva clomid pct 12-16.

I've been reading a lot about HCG which seems to be the big new pct fad, however I've always fully recovered without this and have read a lot about advertise side effects and it possibly leading to cancer etc.

I honestly don't think my cycles pct would require the stuff, and I never plan on running a cycle with more than 2 compounds (not counting sust as 3 in itself)

I'll make a new thread when I start the cycle (mid June prob)

also, should I use my clen , pre, post, or during cycle?

**kelkel** · 02-05-2014, 11:15 AM

It's not a fad, it's simply science. Why let yourself be totally shutdown when you don't have to and make pct even harder?
Your statement that you always fully recovered is based on BW, right?
You run HCG during your cycle, not in PCT.
Doesn't matter how many compounds. One shuts you down. Who's counting after that?
Hopefully you have an AI to use as well.

**MuscleInk** · 02-05-2014, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

It's not a fad, it's simply science. Why let yourself be totally shutdown when you don't have to and make pct even harder?
Your statement that you always fully recovered is based on BW, right?
You run HCG during your cycle, not in PCT.
Doesn't matter how many compounds. One shuts you down. Who's counting after that?
Hopefully you have an AI to use as well.

^^^Spot on as usual Kel. I have yet to see any solid argument AGAINST the use of HCG during cycle. It's even offered to TRT patients to keep testicular function optimal although the frequency of use is lower in TRT because TRT doses are lower.

......damn near everything causes cancer and I've worked in cancer medicine for the past 9 years and the truth is, no one knows what causes cancer. If we did, we'd have better therapies to interrupt the disease progression! Hell, the polyethylene glycol (PEG) that many drugs and ancillaries are suspended in is a risk factor for cancer depending on ethylene oxide and dioxane levels.

**kelkel** · 02-05-2014, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

^^^Spot on as usual Kel. I have yet to see any solid argument AGAINST the use of HCG during cycle. It's even offered to TRT patients to keep testicular function optimal although the frequency of use is lower in TRT because TRT doses are lower.

......damn near everything causes cancer and I've worked in cancer medicine for the past 9 years and the truth is, no one knows what causes cancer. If we did, we'd have better therapies to interrupt the disease progression! Hell, the polyethylene glycol (PEG) that many drugs and ancillaries are suspended in is a risk factor for cancer depending on ethylene oxide and dioxane levels.

You're full of good news!

**MuscleInk** · 02-05-2014, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

You're full of good news!

Just spreading the joy like a bad virus. Lol

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 02-05-2014, 02:44 PM

Sure go ahead, don't use HCG . Will see how you feel about HCG once your balls start sucking up into your body and aching.

**EKFitness** · 02-06-2014, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by JohnnnyBlazzze

Sure go ahead, don't use HCG. Will see how you feel about HCG once your balls start sucking up into your body and aching.

this Is why the guys above you get respect, and you get none, sir. I've been on these forums before your balls dropped.

^^^ yes I have an AI.

thanks for the advice guys.

**Test Rage** · 02-06-2014, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by EKFitness

this Is why the guys above you get respect, and you get none, sir. I've been on these forums before your balls dropped.

^^^ yes I have an AI.

thanks for the advice guys.

HCG keeps the balls active and backfills many hormone pathways that make a more productive cycle and recovery. Also helps ensure ongoing fertility. You think your balls just produce test and thats it? When you supplement test only and forget that your balls are involved in the regulation and production of over a dozen different hormones. When the balls stop functioning much more stress is on the adrenals.

HCG is a necessary part of a cycle and I believe would help you out. If you still wont budge on your view of HCG I would recommend incorporating some pregnenalone and DHEA into your cycle. AAS using individuals often find there ability to recover gets worse and worse the more cycles they run. This is because of the other hormone pathways that become dormant while administering exogenous test.

Prengnenalone is the mother of all hormones and can easily and unknowingly become deficient when cycling and definitely on TRT. HCG makes it much easier to maintain a hormonal balance when we are by all means throwing ourselves out of balance with AAS. Balance allows us to better grow, recover, and keep gains as well as pay attention to long term health.