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04-07-2014, 02:01 AM #1New Member
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first cycle ever teste or sustanon
i am akash
age 22
weight 64 kg/141 pounds
height 5'8
body fat less than 15%
i have been working out since 3-4years
so i was planning to take a 12 week cycle
Testosterone enanthate for 1-12 weeks 500mg/week
dianabol for 1-6weeks 25mg/week
and nolvadex for pct for 2 weeks 40 mg daily
one of my friend suggested to take
sustanon
Week Sustanon-Deca -durabolin -Proviron -Tamoxifen
1 500 400 - -
2 500 300 - -
3 250 200 - -
4 250 100 - -
5 250 100 - -
6 250 100 - -
7 - - 50 30
8 - - 25 30
i dont want to inject 2 juice
so can i take
sustanon for 1-6 weeks
with dianabol for 1-4 weeks
and pct will be proviron and nolva
so plzz suggest me a good cycle
and also i already have gyno so i am planning to take nolvadex 4 weeks before starting any cycle so i can get rid of gyno
to reduce its effect
what should i do plzz help me
and also tell me which cycle will show best results
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04-07-2014, 02:10 AM #2
Ok I'll start
Too young, read this
The young and Steroids
Too light, no amount of steroids will make up for your poor diet. Please visit our nutrition forum and post up your weight gain meal plan over there and we can get you on the right track.
Do you have hard lumps under your nipples or is it just fat?
Good luck.NO SOURCES GIVEN
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04-07-2014, 02:29 AM #3New Member
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read that already
who told you that my diet is poor i have around 120gms of proteins daily with 200gms of carbs
with this diet i gained my weight till 150lbs but i am not gaining above it since last 6 months so now i reduced my protein intake 60 gms and carbs 20gms to lose fat and lost weight 10lbs
and yes they are hard lumps under nipples my chest is the best but those nipples make them look worst
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04-07-2014, 02:39 AM #4
Your weight tells me your diet is poor. You just confirmed it by detailing the amounts. It looks like you eat as much as my 3 year old girl.
Please visit our nutrition forum.
Re: your gyno, read these
Do I have Gynecomastia? If you're asking this question, read this thread.
Stop Using Aromatase Inhibitors to Reverse gynecomastia! SERM's Only!NO SOURCES GIVEN
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04-07-2014, 03:04 AM #5New Member
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i reduced the carbs and protein intake as i wanted to lose fat i lost fat
but now the protein intake is same 60gms but i increased carbs directly to 300gms coz in india each and every food has carbs and carbs only
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04-07-2014, 03:06 AM #6
Again, please post in the nutrition forum.
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04-07-2014, 03:08 AM #7Originally Posted by akashz
EDIT: As BIB stated, you're a little young to risk suppression of your HTPA. Moreover, your first cycle should be testosterone only with proper ancillaries and PCT.Last edited by MuscleInk; 04-07-2014 at 03:12 AM.
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04-07-2014, 03:47 AM #8New Member
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my tdee is 2300 and caloric intake is somewhere below 2000 around 1800
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04-07-2014, 04:40 AM #9Originally Posted by akashz
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04-07-2014, 05:01 AM #10New Member
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i am eating less coz i want to reduce body fat
while on cycle i will be eating above 3000 calories above 200gms protein and 400gms carbs
i am here to take advice on my first cycle and not my diet
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04-07-2014, 05:08 AM #11New Member
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every guy in here thinks i am a newbie an idiot who dont know what to eat for muscle building
i am working out since 4 years and never gained above 150lbs while eating 120gms protein and 200gms carbs
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04-07-2014, 06:05 AM #12
Why, all of a sudden, will you be massively increasing your protein and carbs for your cycle? Why don't you try eating like that without steroids ?
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04-07-2014, 07:11 AM #13New Member
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i am taking cycle nxt month so i will be increasing my protein and carbs this month from today and i will surely gain 10lbs to 15lbs but i wont gain any muscle above 15lbs so cycle would give a kick and i surely would gain 30 - 40 lbs in 3months
10-15lbs naturally and 20-25lbs from steroids in 3 months
guys help me tell me which cycle should i take
and another thing bib
you shared about gyno thread above so i would be taking raloxifene or tamoxifen from today to reduce my gyno effect
even if i dont take cycle is it fine BIBLast edited by akashz; 04-07-2014 at 07:19 AM.
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04-07-2014, 07:20 AM #14
You need to be realistic. Even a 10lb gain of actual muscle from your first cycle will be a result. You have no idea how much weight you can gain and I guarantee that the majority of weight that you do gain will be fat.
I'm out of this now, maybe someone else will tell you what you want to hear rather than what you should hear.
I'm just gonna wish you good luck with the choice that you make.NO SOURCES GIVEN
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04-07-2014, 02:22 PM #15Junior Member
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1st, you already know you are too young... 2nd, find new friends because the ones you have are completely clueless (your friends cycle idea is brutally bad)...3rd. i would never drop my protein intake, in grams, below my weight... learn to eat before starting a cycle...hell, learn how to eat, in general... 4th. you already know you are too young... 5th. get it out of your head that you are going to gain 30-40lbs your first cycle of test/dbol ... you are tiny and its not going to happen anyways...you have never eaten enough and your protein intake has always been low...6th. you already know you are too young... goodluck
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04-07-2014, 02:39 PM #16Member
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1. You are too young. don't screw up your natural test. 2. You are too small. Get your diet right. Its hard to do consistently, but that's the only way to add muscle mass. 3. Test only for first cycle. I'm not a big fand of blends like sustanon , but some guys really like it. 4. get some blood work done and address any gyno and other hormonal issues with a real live doctor way before taking AAS. good luck.
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04-08-2014, 12:31 AM #17
Test e then you only need to pin twice a week and easier to keep stable levels with a single ester
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