Libido issue/ Sex drive. Tren E and Test E.

[izo]

Hi guys!

have some libido and sex drive problems on my Tren E and Test E cycle.

iam on my 6 week using 250mg Test E and 400mg Tren E E5D, the Tren is a bit underdosed.
Noticed that my libido and sexdrive decrease now 6 week.

I had this issue when i was on 500mg Nandrolone weekly and 250mg Test so i increased the TEST to 375mg weekly and the problem was fixed.


Will just try lower the dose and go for 250mg Test and 300-400mg Tren E weekly. Also check my Progesterone, Estradiol and prolactin levels before.

Done a bloodwork when i was on 375mg Test E and 500mg Nandrolone D weekly.

Progesterone: 1,40 nmol/L
Progesterone: 0,45 ng/mL

Estradiol: 112 pg/mL
Estradiol: 411 pmol/L



Before that i done a bloodwork when i was on 500mg Test Weekly and 25mg Dbol daily.

Progesterone: 2,79 nmol/L
Progesterone: 0,89 ng/mL

Estradiol: 132 pg/mL
Estradiol: 484 pmol/L

REF VALUES Progesterone 0,86-2,9.

[izo]

Seems that the Test is problem for me, since the Progesterone values are much lower when the test is around 250-350mg.

[kelkel]

What's your AI protocol?
DA Protocol?

[izo]

i never use any AI, tried it on my first cycle some years ago and did not react good on it.
I am now on my 7 week, will drop the Test and Tren for 10-14 days, and start with 250mg Test and 300-400mg Tren,
I suspect that the problem is high Estradiol from Test which also increases Prolactin and Progesterone. Will to try lower the Test to se if this is the problem!! Also started with 10mg Dbol today, it always increases my sexdrive and libido as hell. If this does not solve the problem i will increase the Test and lower the Tren.

[izo]

Seems that the high Test and Estradiol is the problem. What would you guys think about this?

500mg Test.=

Progesterone: 2,79 nmol/L
Progesterone: 0,89 ng/mL

Estradiol: 132 pg/mL
Estradiol: 484 pmol/L

375mg Test=
Progesterone: 1,40 nmol/L
Progesterone: 0,45 ng/mL

Estradiol: 112 pg/mL
Estradiol: 411 pmol/L

[hawk14dl]

Your e2 is high, so instead of treating it with an ai, you're going to lower the test amount?

An ai should be included in every cycle. The amount used should be based off blood work.

It seems you're missing a key component to the most basic cycle

[izo]

Hey

Yes the plan is to lower the Test.I tried arimidex some years ago and dident respond good on it.

Your e2 is high, so instead of treating it with an ai, you're going to lower the test amount?

An ai should be included in every cycle. The amount used should be based off blood work.

It seems you're missing a key component to the most basic cycle

[< <Samson> >]

From what I can tell, your estrodial is through the roof. No Ai on that cycle is straight suicide - are you trying to grow a nice set of moobs or what?


Gl, yo - it's your body

[Back In Black]

Hey

Yes the plan is to lower the Test.I tried arimidex some years ago and dident respond good on it.

Can you explain a little?

[izo]

What are your thoughts to start adding some Winstrol ?

[kapper]

Why dont u try an AI from the banner at the top of the page and see how u react to that???

Also why would you add more compounds when your obviously having issues with the compounds your using now...... Ease up and fix your estrogen issues before it gets worse

[qscgugcsq]

If arimidex dont work for you(wtf it means...)
Try aromasin !
If not letrozole if needed...

You have no reason to.dont use AI

[lovbyts]

What are your thoughts to start adding some Winstrol?

Adding more fuel to the fire always works, Not!

You keep being vague saying you did not respond well to it or had problems. Elaborate... there are other options but clearly you need an ai or just stop your cycle. Those are your options.

Hey

Yes the plan is to lower the Test.I tried arimidex some years ago and dident respond good on it.

Well it sounds like you are not responding good without it either. Maybe before the problem was with the arimidex . There is a lot suppliers who sell fake or weak AI.

[fit2bOld]

You really need an AI.

[Deal Me In]

Not responding WELL. Sorry, that was really bothering me. Carry on.

[thomasfreddy]

A1s never worked for me either
Made me emotional as hell

[KingB]

I would never cycle without an AI, period.

[MrJuice]

I would never cycle without an AI, period.

good story

[SEOINAGE]

I hate AI's too, but why not try a smaller dose? Giving I don't know what your problems were you could start as low as .1 mg twice a week of anastrozole. AI's give me nipple sensitivity actually, makes me feel like the opposite is going on, and I seem to crash easily, although there could be other factors going on. If more traditional .25 eod approaches don't work, try less. first time I took an AI the doc had me take .5 mg twice a week, and not kidding those high doses messed me up fast. Even on higher test amounts doing a .25 eod really crashed my E2 fast.

Feel free to elaborate, and if you had blood work while on an AI post it up as well.

[carbo]

Adding more fuel to the fire always works, Not!

You keep being vague saying you did not respond well to it or had problems. Elaborate... there are other options but clearly you need an ai or just stop your cycle. Those are your options.

Actually - re winstrol - adding a DHT derivative would definitely provide a relief with loss of libido mid cycle.

But generally I'd agree that his e2/prolactin levels are most likely a mess and need to be managed.

[Cuz]

Or he could just take an AI.

Take your AI .
Take your AI.
Take your AI.

[Jaydenn]

Good read

[< <Samson> >]

Or he could just take an AI.

Take your AI .
Take your AI.
Take your AI.

Nah, who needs dat shat

We like tits, why not grow a pair your very own

[pushit_05]

Like what everyone else is saying in this case I would start an AI to get that down. I don't however agree with just taking an AI no matter what. Not everyone responds to gear the same way and adding something for nothing is just a waste.

[ironbeck]

If you had problems from taking a AI....it's because you didn't take the time to dial in "your" specific dose....every one is different and sometimes it takes some adjusting. But it's well worth it in the long run.

[XxAndreaxX]

if your test is underdosed like your tren , it could be low test dick. 250mg of test E is for me just the mínimum to have a normal libido.
There are people like you perhaps, that simply respond wonderfully to e2, they never grow ginecomastia, but instead, they blow up like baloons. you can get 10kg of muscle size if you're quiet lean, simply by taking test with no AI.
but if you feel no libido, I'd take some AI and increase test, just for try.

[mackbutter]

It's refreshing to hear people say that we all don't respond to the AAS the same way. From school something I remember , which is not much, is that AAS are a perfect example of something that is not a one size fits all topic.
I think he will eventually realize he needs an AI. Although I have crashed my E2 twice and I understand how one could feel scared of repeating that.
I would guess that adding caber, proviron and something like melanotan2 could also help him if he wanted to stay on the tren .

Personally, I have a pretty short list of stuff I can consider using based on my experiences; test, GH, Proviron(which seem to throw my libido into hyper-drive) and ...(yet to try) Primo and Mast. . I just can't use stuff like Tren, deca , winnie and var, cuz know it will drop my libido right off the table and that would , for me, completely ruin the experience.

I do envy those that can use anything though and keep their drive . U guys r lucky.