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    Red face !st cycle in years,,,advice?

    Ok I wanna do an oral steroid that will help me gain strength, not size. I have done several diff ones in the past but was inconsistent with dosing when I did. I will be dedicated with all aspects of the cycle this time. Any advice??? tren ? test? deca ? so many,,, plzz help

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    Size is dependent on diet not steroid .

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    I want strength, not size

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    Someone else can answer the steroid question. But as far as not gaining a lot of mass, just don't eat over your TDEE. And if u want to cut and loss weight, eat a bit under it.

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    First off your wasting your time on an oral cycle only . You say your looking for strength not size then you don't need steroids period . Head over to the workout forum you will get all the answers you need on how to gain strength over there also check the powerlifting section that will help you to , plus maybe you should post up you diet in the nutrition forum as well

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    ok,,, What you think about the oral clen ? not for strength just for shedding fat?

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    What are your stats? Age, weight, height, body fat, goals, and experience with steroids and training?

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    well Ive been NASM certified for years and im 29, 6'1, about 10 percent bf, Ive done cycles of test/aratest/deca /dbol /winstrol before but I was sporadic at best with my dosing and training. All the cycles were before I got certified btw,

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    I am not trying to hate on you here, but I have a NASM cert and I find it is worthless in the setting of bodybuilding and anabolic compounds. What is your weight?

    You say you are going to dedicate to your next cycle but I want to stress to you how important that is. Sometimes details can make or break a cycle.

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    2x^^ a certification doesn't mean anything in bodybuilding or anabolic compounds. Hell a certification doesn't really mean anything .. Researching and studying compounds. Their pro's and con's of each compound.. But for strength u need to learn how to train just for strength.. Yes some drugs will help with it but if u don't have the right training behind it u will lose everything right after cycle.. Btw i would say anavar (if u can find real var" and test p would be ur best bet. Ur comments tell me that ur not ready for a tren cycle..
    Last edited by tice1212; 09-08-2014 at 01:25 PM.

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    Ok so what cycle should I start with, if not tren ? And I weigh 185 or so? I agree with rangers nasm comments btw,,, Thoughts about clen ? anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert890571 View Post
    Ok so what cycle should I start with, if not tren? And I weigh 185 or so? I agree with rangers nasm comments btw,,, Thoughts about clen? anyone?
    Either one of these will work well if diet and training are on point..

    1-8 500mg test P
    1-8 HCG 250ui x2 wk
    1-8 dex .25mg EOD
    3 days after last injection start pct
    Pct:
    Clomid@100,50,50,50
    Nolv@ 40,20,20,20
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    1-12 500mg test E or C
    1-12 HCG 250ui x2 wk
    1-12 dex .25mg EOD
    2 weeks after last injection start pct
    Pct:
    Clomid@100,50,50,50
    Nolv@ 40,20,20,20
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    Yeah those suggested cycles are better in line with your goals, clen wouldn't give you strength gains like you want. Clen is a cutting compound.

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    mmmmmk that all seems like too much work and money lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert890571 View Post
    mmmmmk that all seems like too much work and money lol
    Then steroids are not for you. The workout and nutrition sections should still be of some use to you here.

    DIET AND NUTRITION

    WORKOUT AND TRAINING

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert890571 View Post
    mmmmmk that all seems like too much work and money lol
    Were you hoping a quick $100 was gonna put 200lb on your total? Lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert890571 View Post
    mmmmmk that all seems like too much work and money lol
    To much money? You had better stick to Flinstones chewables on your budget.

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    Hey - damn it, he's NASM Certified


    Go to GNC - they'll help u out

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    well

    Quote Originally Posted by Khazima View Post
    Were you hoping a quick $100 was gonna put 200lb on your total? Lmao
    Do I take pct's after I go through a bottle of clen ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Hey - damn it, he's NASM Certified


    Go to GNC - they'll help u out
    their prices are a bit ridiculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert890571 View Post
    their prices are a bit ridiculous


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