Cutting & PCT Questions

**pfdaxe** · 09-26-2014, 11:53 AM

Great forum BTW! I took gear back in the late 80's and had great gains (34lbs.) in 5 months and have always trained since without gear. I started earlier this year back on gear to gain some mass. I'm now 50 and I started my first cycle as followed: Test C 500mg wk for 12 weeks, Dbol 40mg ED for 6 weeks with .5 AI 2x week. I was off for 4 weeks before 2nd cycle that I'm on now so I didn't use a PCT. The 2nd consists of 600mg Test E & 400mg Deca divided and pinned Sundays & Weds, 50mg Dbol ED for first 6 weeks and .25 AI EOD. I'm currently at the end of week 8 of a 12 week cycle and have gotten good gains. I'm 5'7" and started at 168 lbs. and now at 191 lbs. Since I've been eating pretty clean and everything in sight, I've maintained my BF% at around 19%. I know, a bit high. I'm planning my 3rd cycle which will be a cutting cycle to become more lean hard and vascular. I will be prepping for a March NPC show competing in Masters 50+ Physique. I will be starting my strict lean diet and increase cardio with the help of my trainer at the first part of December. My questions are as follows and would like some opinions.

For my cutting cycle, I'm looking at: 150mg Test Prop EOD for 10 wks, 100mg Masteron EOD for first 5 wks, 100mg Trenbolone Ace EOD last 5 wks, 50mg Winny ED last 6 wks and .25 AI EOD. I may also add an ECA stack to the mix.

Thoughts on this cycle? Also, between the current cycle and my cutting cycle, there will be about an 8-9 week gap. Should I start a PCT or will I be fine? Finally, is a 10 week cycle long enough and would it be better to end cycle as close to showtime as possible or come off a bit before?

**< <Samson> >** · 09-26-2014, 11:58 AM

Shit - 50?! Rock the fvck on!

Not running trt?

Just seeing 50+ & PCT doesn't seem too common.

**pfdaxe** · 09-26-2014, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Shit - 50?! Rock the fvck on!

Not running trt?

Just seeing 50+ & PCT doesn't seem too common.

LOL...My wife (whose a national figure competitor & NPC head judge) says I look 30 and act 12). I'm starting to believe it...

**motobrox** · 09-26-2014, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by pfdaxe

LOL...My wife (whose a national figure competitor & NPC head judge) says I look 30 and act 12). I'm starting to believe it...

At 50 why would you be running trt unless you have issues. That said cycle after cycle with no pct at that age. Trt is future, for sure.

**< <Samson> >** · 09-26-2014, 12:24 PM

Shit man, you run what I run & you got over a decade on me.

I can't really say go lighter on the gear. Lol

Looks aight, but these are rough compounds.

Best I have found so far is prop/mast/tren - never ran winny. Var looks promising though.

I like to run shit like 50/75/75 ED for 8-10 weeks straight. Would b nice to throw in some Var for the last 4 weeks. I'd do like 50mg+ ed.

Something like that, I'd run almost straight up to competition. Maybe stop all injects a week out, but keep the Var right up until comp.

But, this is all I put together on my own & I haven't competed yet.

**gold43** · 09-26-2014, 03:14 PM

At 16% BF, mast won't do anything for you. At best it will help with SOME fat loss. 400mg is also too low. Need to up that to 600-800. And if your cutting you should run Tren at front of your cycle. Test P, Mast P, Tren A is my favorite stack. I don't do orals.