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    Exclamation Don't know whats wrong?

    I'm not really sure how to initiate this so I guess I'll just dive in, sorry in advance if I sound dumb I just figured members on this board would be the best resource available before having to go to the doc.

    Two mornings ago I first noticed it when I woke up that there was an unusual amount of swelling in my hands and feet, and they were very tender to the touch. It didn't get any better as the day progressed and by the end of the day I noticed that my joints were slightly red on my hands, fingers and feet as well. Yesterday the same thing all day with no improvement and today likewise. Today in the gym I could hardly lift any weight at all without it hurting generally all over my upper body and arms, with what felt like joint pain and just plain weakness. Needless to say it was terrible and after fighting for 30 minutes I had to stop and leave.

    I'm on week 9 of my 1st cycle- Test E 400mg/ week. Blood results from last week indicated nearly double the average Estrogen level, information with which I upped my AI from .25 to .5 EOD. My thoughts are that these issues are hormone related, please any help is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!

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    Question: Do you think my a-dex is under dosed? Upped from .25 to .5 EOD and still seem like pretty high E2 results don't ya think? Thanks
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    That isn't a normal reaction. Come off right now and see if it subsides.

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    Completely stop with Test injections?

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    Yes.

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    Have you gotten full BW?

    Any other symptoms?

    Strange sides all together

    But, you really will need a full BW on this one. Could be organ related - I have never had anything even close from that much test.

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    I'm assuming your gear is UGL?

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    Samson I have got the female hormone panel that is offered through privatemd. No other major symptoms that have been as prevalent as the ones stated. Idk if this is related or not but my acne has seemed to flair up in the past week and a half or so. I figured that was just apart of the "process" though.

    Yes Times my gear is UGL. But at any consolation a very trusted and reputable source.

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    You need a full blood panel. Liver enzymes & all This sounds somewhat e related - without a full blood panel we're just taking stabs in the dark.

    But, not at the same time.

    I just asked my woman and she said the same. Possible liver issues

    I know you don't want to, but get a true full blood panel from a Md. if you must. Don't mention the need for a hormonal panel - that you can get on your own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxfordbeta View Post
    Samson I have got the female hormone panel that is offered through privatemd. No other major symptoms that have been as prevalent as the ones stated. Idk if this is related or not but my acne has seemed to flair up in the past week and a half or so. I figured that was just apart of the "process" though.

    Yes Times my gear is UGL. But at any consolation a very trusted and reputable source.
    my concern, even for myself, when buying ugl, is sterility and contaminants, either through the cooking or as it comes in from a raw. every once in a while I hear stories about UGL contaminants and it's enough to make me take notice.

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    Samson- something like a liver function profile?

    Times- No I understand what you mean, It's hard to justify my reasoning through a keyboard as to the validity of my source, but I do understand that "bad batches" do happen. Do you only use pharm grade?

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    Updated blood work results!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxfordbeta View Post
    Samson- something like a liver function profile?

    Times- No I understand what you mean, It's hard to justify my reasoning through a keyboard as to the validity of my source, but I do understand that "bad batches" do happen. Do you only use pharm grade?
    up until recently, I was blessed by being able to go to a pharmacy in Afghanistan and buy what ever I need. Plus I can stockpile my prescription for TEst. Now, someone I know cooks up from raw. But this person doesn't do it for any reason other than personal use, plus some for me.
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    According to your blood work your testosterone is under dosed, so i would guess that your AI is too - if they both come from the same source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temporary Accnt View Post
    According to your blood work your testosterone is under dosed, so i would guess that your AI is too - if they both come from the same source.
    LabCorp maxes at 1500. They don't give actual result if over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    LabCorp maxes at 1500. They don't give actual result if over.
    Thanks for the heads up Austinite.

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