Tren ace/ Test Prop cycle

[Inwarwetrust]

So i'm new as of today and spent an hour searching through the forums, read quite a bit on tren and hcg and pct but i still dont have an answer for my specific question, which led me to my post.

I'm eager to start my first cycle which is:
8-12 weeks (depending on how i feel)
Tren Ace 50mg ED
Test Prop 25mg ED
Caber 1mg weekly

PCT: 4 weeks
clomid- 100/100/50/50
nolva- 40/40/20/20

Heres my question... Should I incorporate HCG? My fear is damaging my ledyg cells and messing with my natural LH production, my biggest concern is to finish the cycle and keep as much gains as possible, while returning to hpta, libidio and test production to normal as well. (if my junk is like jello i'll jump off a bridge, no point in being sexy and not satisfying my lady)

Seeing as how i'd just like to do 1 cycle as an experiment, I'm trying to just hit my genetic limit and maintain, i dont need to be a bodybuilder so much as i want to feel good in my own skin and finally sport some abs and feel confident about my body.

I have a thread which has pictures of my physique in the pictures forum (cant link it yet i'm too new), give me any feedback about adjusting my cycle/pct... also if anyone has reference to a person with a similar body as mine now with an after picture it'd be great motivation as well. Thanks guys.

[Buster Brown]

Welcome to the forum and your cycle write up is laid out well however.......... Your first cycle should ONLY be Tes. Tren is extremely strong and not for the smart first time user. There is an excellent thread in the stickies by Austinite about how to plan and execute a successful first cycle.... Great read. Hcg is important on cycle and will help in your recovery post cycle. An 8-10 week prop cycle is a great first cycle as long as you don't mind pinning eod . Make sure you have a solid diet plan written up ..... If you visit the diet section there is a ton of good information as well as formulas to determine your TDEE. Diet is extremely important on cycle.

[XxAndreaxX]

question: why do you choose short esters instead of long esters??

[swolehead]

short esters are in and out faster not to answer the question for him cuz I don't know why he chose them but I don't see any other reason why anyone would use them.

[RigPig]

question: why do you choose short esters instead of long esters??

why would you want longer esters, especially if you've never run Tren before? Only make sense to run short esters so you can bail quickly if the side get to be too much to handle.

Inwarwetrust - looks like you've done some homework, I hope you do a bit more here and decide against your purposed cycle, it is crazy to start your ASS career/experiment with Tren. Nobody would advise this. Read through these links, you seem smart. You'll come up with a better way to start this "experiment" I'm sure.
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-steroids.html
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...-database.html
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...le-swifto.html
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...nce-guide.html
http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-c...art-times.html

[Back In Black]

With all due respect your physiques is miles away from being ready to cycle. For those of you that haven't visited his photo thread

http://forums.steroid.com/members-pi...-physique.html

Diet, cardio and lifting solidly for 6 months and you MAY be somewhere close. As directed in your other thread visit our nutrition forum.

[Inwarwetrust]

I greatly appreciate the replies, i'll be digging through the nutrition forum. my main priority is obtaining abs by the summer and i'm going to get there one way or another

[Buster Brown]

I greatly appreciate the replies, i'll be digging through the nutrition forum. my main priority is obtaining abs by the summer and i'm going to get there one way or another

Abs are made in the kitchen. The diet section will help you immensely. You will not get abs simply by running a cycle. Enjoy your research and stay focused.