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04-13-2004, 10:51 AM #1Respected Member
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PCT start times
Below you'll find starting times for your PCT based on the active life of each compound. The active life is the duration of time it takes for the exogenous hormone to be absorbed, utilized, and expelled; no longer being bioavailable. Keep in mind that active life is an approximation which is dependant on dose, ester, as well as the individuals metabolization of the compound ; but for the moderate user, these are as close to precise as you'll find.
Anadrol /Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca : 21 days after last injection
Dianabol : 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise : 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon : 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate : 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate : 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension : 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol : 24 hours after last administration
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10-07-2004, 11:58 AM #2New Member
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ok thatīs mean thatīs th end of the cycle is today , iwill start my pct 21 after , because i running sost. and nandro. thanks
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11-29-2004, 04:57 PM #3Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Pheedno
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12-03-2004, 08:42 AM #4New Member
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i maded a misktake. idindīt used hcg on cycle.
now iīm run novaldex, 40mg/day. what ccan i add to my pct, to reinforce.
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01-04-2005, 10:55 AM #5New Member
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It has been traditional to run clomid, but I would wait for a more educated answer.
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01-05-2005, 06:43 PM #6New Member
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I ran a 20mgs of Dianabol a day for 4 weeks while running 600mg/week of deca along side for 5 weeks.
At first I wanted to go the full 5 weeks on dbol but dropped the last week becuase of too much water retention and other reasons. I was under the impression that I should start using clomid 3 weeks after my last deca injection is this still standing now that I didn't stop both drugs at the sametime?
thanks guys
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01-15-2005, 07:05 AM #7
Thought it was time to bump this. There are a lot o questions lately about when to start PCT
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03-03-2005, 02:10 PM #8Junior Member
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If i am doing eq and prop for 12 weeks each and end them on the same day do i start my pct three weeks after last shot or three days??? I can not exted the time of cycle so any info will help thanks!
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03-05-2005, 11:57 AM #9
stop your eq 18 days prior to your prop and start pct 3 days after your last prop inject
Originally Posted by mikeysauce
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I am taking Omnadren 250 , knowing that it is a Testosterone Propionate i know as per list above to take , Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection , i was going to run clomid at 50 but doesnt say how long to run it for. This was a first cycle and i shot it twice a week , got 500 a week.
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03-17-2005, 02:36 AM #11Originally Posted by DSM4Life
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03-18-2005, 10:30 AM #12
So if you are running Sust and Prop ,start PCT 3 wks after last Sust jab correct , not 3 days after last Prop jab?
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k i will do 100mg for a month , i orginally thought that might be much for such a small amount of gear i was taking
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04-08-2005, 08:35 PM #14Junior Member
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OK, how about if you run:
Sus 500mg/week 1-12
Methandriol Dipropionate 40-50mg/ED Weeks 1-4 & 9-12
Nolvadex 10-20mg/ED
Is that even a decent cycle?
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04-08-2005, 08:38 PM #15
You need to post this question in the Steroid Forum. You also need to read this http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...48#post1719948
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04-08-2005, 08:41 PM #16Junior Member
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Originally Posted by seanw
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Originally Posted by alexvega
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Originally Posted by Pheedno
so If I'm taking sustanon and winny tabs, when should I administer? or should I continue my winny for 14 days after finishing sust, then start PCT?
anyone?Last edited by bvanderwerff; 06-05-2005 at 10:54 PM.
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06-06-2005, 07:16 AM #20Associate Member
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no one wants to answer me!!! LOL
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06-21-2005, 02:36 PM #21
If I just run M1T, how long after i finish the cycle should I start my PCT?
Thanks...
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06-21-2005, 07:59 PM #22
good info im gonna add this to my favorites
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06-22-2005, 04:10 AM #23
Definately run your nolva...
Originally Posted by bigbigb
The advice I received was run your Nolva from day one of your cycle and in most cases PCT is seldom needed or used much more than a week to 2 weeks after a cycle. My readings and commnucation with overseas steroid users generally "not in all cases of course" experience little to absolutely no side effects or even crashing for that matter due to the fact that:
1 They believe that cycles should be run shorter 6-8 weeks. This allows a user to actually get more cycles in yearly but in a less harsh "progressionary growth model"
2. Therefore recovery time is much less after cycles and natural hormonal levels are placed in balance at a much quicker rate. The Nolva throughout cycles aids in this just as BigBobb noted for the simple fact that you are blocking estrogen production steadily vs trying to counteract the mass production that follows an abundance of testosterone production.
My last cycle I ran just as BigBobb, stacked Test Cyp, Human Grade stano for 8 weeks (4 at start 4 to finish) and primoject with BD primobol for 12 weeks total. I had no side effects, no loss of sex drive, and so far have kept all my gains and feel great! My cycle ended just under 4 weeks ago. So according the the chart which states 18 days to start PCT from test in a cycle, I suggest you try this approach on your next cycle and see how it works out.
Sure everyone is different, but if you don't try you'll never know and hey if it can practically eliminate side effects and you run shorter cycles but keep gains and take recover time to practically 1 week off cycle might be worth a shot. JMO
Oh... sorry if my post is a little hard to follow, I have been a workaholic and am running on 0 hours of sleep in 2 days! Bad! Bad! Bad! body builder - I know LOL
Be good!
Stacka (raised to the 3rd)
"those who follow the crowd will never be followed by a crowd" - John Maxwell
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06-22-2005, 06:32 AM #24
Doup!!
sorry bigbigb!
Just realized I was callin ya bigbobb. WTF??? Sleep deprivation
LOL
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07-20-2005, 09:39 AM #25New Member
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I started with 1cc of sust 250 and 1cc of test enth 250 along with 75mg of fina ED, after 5 weeks i dropped the sust and test and began EQ 400 mg/wk and staying with 75mg of Fina/ED, both for 5 more weeks... Just wondering if i needed to start PCT since i finished the sust and test, or if i should wait until the end of the entire cycle?
I would appreciate any feedback...thanks
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08-01-2005, 11:13 AM #26New Member
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hey guys, ok there is so many opinions here I'm starting to get scared?
maybe someone can give some advice based on a similar stack!
I am currently on week 3 of my cycle. it goes like this, sust@500week for 10 weeks,
oral d-bol from week 1-4@40mg/day, winny tabs@40mg/day tapering down from week
8-12(18days after last sust inj.)
I have nolva, and clomid. I have been taking milkthisle every day for the d-bol,and vit.B6 for acne, I also have about 3 weeks worth of clen . Any help here(or changes even!) would be appreciated.
I haven't started any nolva because I was told not to unless my nipples got sore, is that too late??
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08-04-2005, 02:10 PM #27New Member
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I Used Steroids Two Years Ago.. The Stupid Thing Is I Never Heard Of Pct. I Didnt Do My Research , But In The Last Two Years I Have Had Several Problems With Sex Drive To Many Others. Recently Started Doing My Research( A Little Late) But What Is The Window For Pct? Have I Waited To Long? Do I Need To Start Taking Steroids Again And Then Finish It With The Right Pct Or What Should I Do.. Really Appreciate Any Help, Thanks.
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08-12-2005, 04:11 AM #28
If I'm on a D-bol, Deca , And test cycle when is the proper time to start the PCT with the clomid?
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08-16-2005, 08:54 PM #29
This is why everyone should be using prop at the end of their cycle ffor test. so they only have to wait 3 days before pct.
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08-19-2005, 12:03 PM #30New Member
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Thanks for the info
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08-19-2005, 08:01 PM #31
Whats the start time for turnabol?
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09-02-2005, 01:25 PM #32
For fina, it's 3 days after last injection. What is fina's half-life? Couldn't find it. Thanks!
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10-28-2005, 10:13 PM #33
great info
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10-29-2005, 01:37 PM #34New Member
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Help is needed
hi guys,
I am gon run a cycle I've never tried before.
wk1-3
sust - 500mg per wk
deca - 200 mg per wk
dianabol - 30 mg ed
wk 3-6
testex - 750mg per wk
dianabol - 50mg ed
wk 6-9
Virormone - 300mg per wk
dianabol - 50mg ed
I am confused about times to start pct for different steroids . Is there someone who can design me a pct plan?
I'd appreciate it very much.
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12-13-2005, 09:02 PM #35New Member
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i want to go on test 400 stacked with dbol
and im not to sure how to carry out pct
what and when to start and finish
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02-04-2006, 05:52 PM #36New Member
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I've found 500ius HCG 2xs week with 20mgs Nolv very sufficient for HPTA rebound. And I don't get the ****ed up Clomid sides.
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How many weeks do you usually use the HCG for? For a 2 week stretch, after your cycle?
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06-04-2006, 08:04 PM #38New Member
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Thanks for the great thread!
Last edited by Evolution-06; 07-03-2006 at 05:42 AM.
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06-26-2006, 10:21 PM #39Junior Member
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ok check this out when i come off my sust 250 cycle 500mg 2 times a week can my pct be just nolvadedx and tribulus and for how long
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06-26-2006, 10:24 PM #40Junior Member
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and how much should i take i made some massive gains and am ready to do a cutting cycle for 8 weeksand was wondering how long before i could start that also does anyone know a good cutting cycle i have anavar and winny
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Yes sir, when you drop your estrogen down to nothing you generally feel shitty and ache like hell. Try backin off the AI some next time.
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