Advice for extremely estrogen sensitive individual

**dfarre** · 01-10-2015, 02:30 AM

Test, EQ, deca , dbol is not an option. Just with EQ at 500mg and test at 500mg I had to use 2mg of adex ED to get my E2 normal. I don't want to do it anymore, what are other options? I will keep test at TRT dose though.

I'm thinking of masteron , tren and primobolan . I don't think there really are others. They are much more expensive, but I'd rather pay more than battle with estrogen effects. Which of these would be a good choice, what are pros and cons of each?

**Chicagotarsier** · 01-10-2015, 05:42 AM

post labs please.

**clarky.** · 01-10-2015, 06:04 AM

Your AI must have been fake.

**dfarre** · 01-10-2015, 06:36 AM

On 350mg test E2 was 130 with 0.5mg adex E2D. I don't know how high it was this time because I already knew the side effects so I just upped the dose, in the end 2mg got me at 26 E2. I think I could use 1.5mg to keep it normal.

It's not fake because other guys are using the same, 0.5 E3D on 1g of test, just real lucky that they are not estrogen sensitive. It's pharma grade from actual pharmacy.

**Buster Brown** · 01-10-2015, 07:27 AM

Ever think of running Nov on cycle as well to combat signs of gyno.

**dfarre** · 01-10-2015, 07:36 AM

I did, got rid of signs of gyno. The gyno is not the main side effect, it's acne and water retention. I think E2 has to be really high to get gyno symptoms, I didn't have any at 130 E2. But acne appears much faster.
Now with low E2 I have no acne, it went away in a few days.

**zempey** · 01-10-2015, 07:52 AM

I am struggling bad right now with gyno, I am trying to be patient and let the nolva and the new aromasin take effect, but my chest doesn't seem to be getting better, worse actually.

Question I have is, will hcg compound the effects of gyno, and will t3 have any adverse effects? I have been on 40mg nolva for a week and a half with no change in size or sensitivity.

Any thoughts? Sorry for the highjack.

**< <Samson> >** · 01-10-2015, 08:41 AM

HCG won't do shit for gyno - positive or negative(I tried discontinuing mine)

Nolva or Ralox take weeks to start working

If you are that sensitive to e2 & want to cycle Letro sounds like your only option. Letro sucks ass & should only be used as a last option.

I used it as an Ai & it wasn't anywhere as bad as running a full in Letro protocol.

Now I am back to using Stane as an Ai - it works well, but what sucks is that when I add the slightest change to my cycle, my estro spikes. It's so fast that it will be fine one day & the next my moobs ache.

**2iron** · 01-10-2015, 10:00 AM

I'm not sensitive to estrogen as I'm on my way back down from 507 with very limited noticeable s.e. but Adex doesn't work very well in most cases around here. 25mg/day aromasin and I'm slowly coming back down. Probably been 4 weeks now cut my number in half 254.

**bigconcrete** · 01-10-2015, 10:32 AM

letro is your friend mate

Dont wanna read the whole thread.

BUT, to sum it up for you.

when i ran 500 mg test e EW + 1mg adex and 20 mg nolva = i had gyno problems.
So on with aromasin and stuff.

But, when using 1.25 mg letro e3d with 500 mg test - i got no signs of estro problems.

Try it, letro is strong as hell, so be careful.

**< <Samson> >** · 01-10-2015, 10:36 AM

Main thing about Letro is that it hits the dick so fast. But, when I turn up the gear I have no choice.

The test brings it up, but letro chops it down.

When I was running letro it was .25mg EOD

**swolehead** · 01-10-2015, 12:41 PM

can you run 150 mg test without problems

**Leeroy69** · 01-10-2015, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by bigconcrete

letro is your friend mate

Dont wanna read the whole thread.

BUT, to sum it up for you.

when i ran 500 mg test e EW + 1mg adex and 20 mg nolva = i had gyno problems.
So on with aromasin and stuff.

But, when using 1.25 mg letro e3d with 500 mg test - i got no signs of estro problems.

Try it, letro is strong as hell, so be careful.

I have ever only had one little shock with gyno and it's when I ran omnadren 250 back in my early 20's was only.using 500mg a week...It came on and I stopped immediately and used nolva. ....ever since then I ALWAYS use proviron to help combat onset of gyno and it hasn't failed me yet....and I have used bigger doses than 500mg a week....many people will say otherwise but it works for me and I am sticking with it.

**mikegilbert1986** · 01-10-2015, 08:17 PM

why dont you try another ai aromasin or letro they do work. i dont beleive you are that sensitive they only thing you wouldn't to touch is the dbol .

**mikegilbert1986** · 01-10-2015, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by zempey

I am struggling bad right now with gyno, I am trying to be patient and let the nolva and the new aromasin take effect, but my chest doesn't seem to be getting better, worse actually. Question I have is, will hcg compound the effects of gyno, and will t3 have any adverse effects? I have been on 40mg nolva for a week and a half with no change in size or sensitivity. Any thoughts? Sorry for the highjack.

aromasin work for me in the matter of a few days
i had your same problem. i was taking dbol at the time when i dropped it 3 days later lumps started going down and pain went away. you gotta get it under control because you dont want it to gat out of control they may not shrink back down. hcg shoots estrogen up high man you should drop that until you get it under control thats probably your problem and or anything else you using that automatize.