Blast cycling,marcus please help

[fitguy]

Hi all,i was wondering guys about what you call blast cycling,i know blast cycling is mainly refered to people who are on trt and then blast but what am refering to is the usage of high doses of long esters or short esters for a short period of time of 6 weeks maximum,few guys recently i know have been doing this method with great results on cycle,stacking 3 or 4 compounds together with test as a base for 6 weeks and nost are using ling esters,for me i know it sounds weird but at the same time they are using the same amount of gear but in a shorter time as if they are frontloading with mega doses and using the same amount of gear for example that they should use in 12 weeks but instead in 6,for me the main cocern i think is the sides but on the other hand i believe that this way might yield better results and recovery,i know marcus knows a lot of info about this anyfeedback is appreciated,thanks

[marcus300]

I'm not at home at the moment but I think this thread will answer all your questions

Short burst cycling- explained

Short burst cycling explained-
One of the best approaches Ive ever used to build muscle tissue is short burst cycling, before i go any further i want to state that short cycling can be implemented to what ever level you are, its not only for the advance Bodybuilder it can be for all stages, its just the amount of gear Mg is adjusted to suit the individual's level. The best part of this thread will be aimed at advanced bodybuilders because of the high dose used with burst cycling but no discussion on dosages will be made on the open board unless it needs to be discussed.

Muscle tissue doesn't grow continuously over long periods of time, weight gain and muscular growth doesn't happen that way. Not in infants, toddlers, teenagers, or even weight trainers. Instead, weight gain seems to come in spurts or surges. It's amazing how you can train hard and eat very well year round yet only seem to make progress in quick little infrequent spurts of growth even with taking all the AAS compounds the body still gets use to whats being taken and builds up tolerance and adapts. If you look back over your cycle history you will notice the growth spurts within the cycles, we don't keep on growing because if we did we would all be 500lbs+. This method can build huge tissue gains in that short growth window if everything is in place.


Pre -Cycle Primming- First you must open the growth window and create a very anabolic environment for muscle tissue to grow, muscle receptors will get very excitable and upgrade to except more glucose which will shift the muscle to fat ratio which in turn will create muscle tissue to build very quickly, when this is coupled with a short burst cycle right after a prime the results can be outstanding, some of you will understand this from rebound cycling after a comp, its very similar except the prime isn't as harsh as the pre-cycle comp diet and the prime is only directed at creating and opening the growth window for the cycle, its a pre-cycle prime.(details of primming is in a separate thread).Hgh protocol should be ran during the prime at low dose and kicked up when cycle starts.


Duration - Short burst cycling usually last for around 30 days up to 6 weeks, there is no set rule on the length of cycle and normally it can be open ended and stopped when growth slows/stops. You have to listen to the body and adjust, with burst cycling it shouldn't be ran for long periods of time, longer doesn't mean more or better gains.Keep it short and feed the growth window and build the tissue and stop, recover and maintain.

Dosages- The dose for a short burst cycle is alot more than you would normally use in a standard length cycle, because of the prime and the body being in a very anabolic environment it can take on board alot more than usual and over loading androgens will fully push the body to grow, it also takes time for the body to adjust to the high level of hormones in relation to sides so before you are experiencing them your off cycle. Over your cycle history you would of tried the heavy dosages and seen the sides come and where its not worth the risk's to muscle gain, this is why its kept to a short period before the body can adjust with sides the cycle is over and growth is completed. Individual dosages are designed off your cycle history, there is no set dose it all depends on what your cycle history looks like, someone who normally uses 500mg per wk will be completely different to the guy who uses 1500mgs per wk when designing short burst cycles, but both will have the benefit of using high amounts what they normally don't run.

Side effects- If your looking for the best effective way to run hormones without to much negative feedback staying on for long periods of time probably isn't the best option to take. Ive had far better blood work back from high burst cycles than when Ive ran longer cycles at alot less dosage. There is minimal impact on the HPTA and recovery is far easier than trying to bring back natural production from a long cycle, there is some elevated aggression because of the high amount of androgens but overall this can be channeled into your workouts. PCT should be painless and within normal boundaries of how you recover. Blood pressure in some can be a problem but not serious but needs to be checked throughout the period so aids can be used to combat the problem if needed. Water retention is low but can be elevated if this system is ran for long periods, but if there is a problem normal AI can be used to help this issue and OTC herbal diuretics. Tren user's within this system get bad BW results due to the harshness of the compound but boy does it produce gains but you have to be prepared to have a hard recovery and sides, kinda defeats the object but again, down to the individual.

Compounds- Because its a short period of time the normal way would to run short ester's, but you can use long ester's within a short cycle, i know what some of you are thinking but it can be done with great results, because of the androgen overload your simply frontloading long ester's to an amount were it is effective straight from the start, the only problem is you have to drop them out 14 days before the end and swap them with fast ester's so everything is clear for PCT, i know what some are saying sounds pointless but its not, to the BB's who prefer long ester and they respond better to them, remember its designed of your cycle history so if your better with long esters go with them until 14 days from the end and swap to fast ester's, the daily injection and the amount of tissue the body can produce in a short period is amazing, if anyone wants to discuss long ester's with this theory i will but at this moment in time i will stop before i complicate things more. Short ester's and fast acting compounds are used and the exact compounds depends on what your trying to achieve but normally its Test based or what you respond best to, 2 /3 compounds are ran at a time but no need to run loads, keep them limited less is better,Ive even known guys used 1 compound with stunning results. HGH is increased to a high amount when cycle starts just like all the compounds. I did a study once with some BB's and the dosages range alot with all different HGH protocol's which is interesting reading but i can go into that at a later date.

Maintenance - Due to the HPTA being shut down or suppressed for a short period of time its far better to get it to respond when the cycle is over, remember being shut down for weeks on end cause's serious issues about recovery and maintenance, shorter shut downs produces easier recovery no matter how much you have pushed in the body,which in turn results in better maintenance which equals keeping more gains. Once you have shut down your HPTA its down and its the period of shutdown what cause's damage, would you rather shut down your HPTA for 14 weeks or 30 days?? or continually shutting down and recovering isn't the other best approach either, depends on the person's goals and what he wants to achieve with BBing, some of my friends who are at a high level use short burst cycling coupled with bridge's because of what they have to compete with on stage and get ready for photo shoots nearly all the time. Recovering from a standard or long cycle it cost muscle tissue while trying to recovery even with all the peptide's chemicals this day and age we still lose tissue, with this theory losing tissue is limited.

Diet - After the prime as been implemented correctly, the cycle should be started and this day should line up with the first high carb day after the low day carbs within the prime, calories from then on should be increased to over maintenance, different opinions here to how much, again down to knowing your body and how it responds, many who increase too fast will create huge water retention due to the increase of carbs, some don't and over load can be implemented, if your one of these guys who has water retention when carbs are increased after being depleted then over maintenance should be ran for 1 week ish then, overload should be used, if your not and you don't carry the water from the carbs increase calories well over maintenance and go with growth,also depends on how much of a prime as been ran!! feed the dramatic growth what can occur if you have done the procedure correctly.Over eat, over feed, overload on the first day of the cycle straight after the prime from low carb phase.One last thing and i hope many understand this- diet is 24hr dedication while running the theory.

Training - Train to how you grow, best advice here is heavy intense workouts to total failure,HIT style or what ever works for you, you have the answers on how you grow. Intense is the key, stimulation of the whole body to grow, don't waste this time, remember to train how i am recommending is impossible for 10-12 weeks, its to hard and wouldn't last 4 weeks, before a turn around is needed and lay up from the heavy training session, so with this in mind you can mentally focus on this because its only for around 30 days long. Ive used many ways myself but the best for me with this style of cycling was heavy drop sets to failure plus forced, swapped to pre-exhausted drop sets to failure the following next total body workout, then swapped again. Workouts are short but seriously intense but you have the food/chemicals and energy to support this for this short period so don't waste it, Ive seen huge amounts of tissue build from this, myself i created 10lbs of clean tissue in a very short period of time after PCT and maintenance. Everybody's different to how much they build and comes down to if you have primed correctly, designed the perfect stack for you, placed the correct amount of mg's in the blood every day and how well you train to build fresh tissue.


When i was first learnt this method my whole body changed to a serious level,I never went back to the normal way of cycling, it suited me so much and the growth was amazing. Borreson sat me down and explained in detail how this can happen and to this day things have moved forward so much from Paul's day but i always remember him saying "please try it you will be amazed" he was right and it could for you. Look at Dorian what he did straight after a show....he was back in the gym the day after while the other were on vacation, he was using the growth window to create a very anabolic environment for tissue to grow and he used it, thats why in some years he produced some serious muscle tissue gains what has been seen since due to his method and style, many top pro's used this system but its tweaked to suit their individual's needs.

Please note, i am not saying do short burst cycles with little time off and then back on short burst cycle, no i haven't gone into that side of things, all i am doing is explaining the whole theory behind short burst cycling with first hand experience from myself and many bodybuilder's.
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[Mr.BB]

I though short burst cycling was for advanced users.

Op is planning his1st cycle... Dont recommend it imho..

[marcus300]

I though short burst cycling was for advanced users.

Op is planning his1st cycle... Dont recommend it imho..

That's correct its an advanced aas protocol and not recommended for newbs

[fitguy]

That's correct its an advanced aas protocol and not recommended for newbs

I did one cycle years ago and am looking to follow the concept itself and use it for my own good,am not a newbie to bodybuilding and am in good shape already but looking for more size,180-185 lbs at 6 feets 10-14 percent bodyfat at my max,been training for more than 10 years now naturally and i believe am in better shape than even guys having several cycles under their belt..
And to be honest it makes sense to me to follow this kind of cycling its like using the total amount of gear you are going to run in a longer period of time in a shorter time,the overall time of usage is condensed while the same amount of gear is used,if mild compounds are gonna be used i dont see any issues with this way of cycling but to be honest i have been seeing people running long period of time waiting for a kick in just cause someone said online that kick in happens like after 6 weeks or so,running a cycle for 12 weeks or more just to grow half the period of it doesnt make any sense,thanks

[marcus300]

I did one cycle years ago and am looking to follow the concept itself and use it for my own good,am not a newbie to bodybuilding and am in good shape already but looking for more size,180-185 lbs at 6 feets 10-14 percent bodyfat at my max,been training for more than 10 years now naturally and i believe am in better shape than even guys having several cycles under their belt..
And to be honest it makes sense to me to follow this kind of cycling its like using the total amount of gear you are going to run in a longer period of time in a shorter time,the overall time of usage is condensed while the same amount of gear is used,if mild compounds are gonna be used i dont see any issues with this way of cycling but to be honest i have been seeing people running long period of time waiting for a kick in just cause someone said online that kick in happens like after 6 weeks or so,running a cycle for 12 weeks or more just to grow half the period of it doesnt make any sense,thanks

You don't want to be using any kind of heavy useage when you have only done one cycle, first you need to have a intense cycle back ground so you can work off this to design the dose and protocol to suit you but saying that you can implement a short cycle standard which doesn't involve higher dose ass, just a standard dose what suits to your experience and knowledge but the same principle apply ie priming, nutrition and training

[fitguy]

You don't want to be using any kind of heavy useage when you have only done one cycle, first you need to have a intense cycle back ground so you can work off this to design the dose and protocol to suit you but saying that you can implement a short cycle standard which doesn't involve higher dose ass, just a standard dose what suits to your experience and knowledge but the same principle apply ie priming, nutrition and training

I want to do this type of cycling but adjusting the doses acc to my need

[marcus300]

I want to do this type of cycling but adjusting the doses acc to my need

You can do a standard short cycle using long esters because it takes 5 weeks for the long ester to be peaking at full strength. If your planning a short cycle use short esters.