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    Today is 2 weeks of my test e/tren e/ dbol cycle. Hcg 250ius twice a week. I've noticed I have very slight sensitivity in my nipples when I press on them. I'm taking arimidex .25mg eod. Do you guys think that maybe I should try increasing my dosage to .5 eod or ed?
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    It may b prolactin sides u might wanna add caber or prami... Also dbol causes me nipple sensitivity when I add it in a cycle... Is this Ur first cycle with tren or dbol? It wouldn't hurt to have blood work done
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    Quote Originally Posted by dep30 View Post
    It may b prolactin sides u might wanna add caber or prami... Also dbol causes me nipple sensitivity when I add it in a cycle... Is this Ur first cycle with tren or shop? It wouldn't hurt to have blood work done
    I got prami on the way. It might be a week or so. Its my second cycle. I had problems with sensitive nipples in my first cycle also but I was uninformed about arimidex and prami.

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    BW is the only way of knowing - we're all just guessing...

    Have you been taking .25mgs of dex EOD throughout this cycle?

    I know my body but I've not ran d-Bol but if I did I would dose my dex at .5 EOD especially w/the compounds your using(note when you do cease the d-Bol then your aromatization rate will decrease) hence the BW...

    Only you can know this through more experience - but BW should always be apart of your ore cycle status mid cycle for any adjustments post pct 8 wks

    Edit*** well definitely wait to pull bloods(6 wk mark) but just start your prami li want bed time and titrate up according to how you feel...
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    You're two weeks in. Your hormones are in flux. Quite honestly you should expect some nipple sensitivity. It's normal.
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    Yes I am planning to do bw at 6 weeks but for now I'll take guesses.

    I have been taking arimidex since day 1 at .25 eod. I'll start .5 today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    You're two weeks in. Your hormones are in flux. Quite honestly you should expect some nipple sensitivity. It's normal.
    Yea but I want to try keep it from going out of control.

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    ThX for all the responses and helping me deal with sides . Always appreciated.

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    Dbol is notorious for this. Your just getting started it will settle down. Keep some nolva on hand.

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    You should drop the tren and d'bol and learn how to control the test before you start adding in any other compounds. You have no idea what is causing your problem and by the time you get bloodwork done your problems may well escalate and set in.

    Aren't you on over a gram of test per week on your second cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    You should drop the tren and d'bol and learn how to control the test before you start adding in any other compounds. You have no idea what is causing your problem and by the time you get bloodwork done your problems may well escalate and set in.

    Aren't you on over a gram of test per week on your second cycle?
    1200 a week
    Got nolva.
    If it gets real bad I'll drop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubrovin1012
    1200 a week Got nolva. If it gets real bad I'll drop it.
    for a second cycle that is ridiculous. It's ridiculous for a 5th or 6th cycle even. No wonder you can't control your E2 and have sore nips.

    How much d'bol and tren ?

    What amounts did you take on your first cycle?

    What's your

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post

    for a second cycle that is ridiculous. It's ridiculous for a 5th or 6th cycle even. No wonder you can't control your E2 and have sore nips.

    How much d'bol and tren ?

    What amounts did you take on your first cycle?

    What's your

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    Bodyfat%?
    I thought norm was 1200 to 1800
    I did 800 on my first

    Tren 600
    Dbol 25 ed

    5'6
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    Around 13-15 bf%

    What would be the ideal amount?

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    You need to take 10 steps back and start over before you hurt yourself. .this link should be the cycle you follow

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

    Whoever has been giving you cycle advice needs kicking squarely in the cvnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    You need to take 10 steps back and start over before you hurt yourself. .this link should be the cycle you follow

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

    Whoever has been giving you cycle advice needs kicking squarely in the cvnt.

    how about this

    Test 400 mg Mon-thur 800 MG a wk
    Tren 200 mg Mon-thur 400 MG a wk
    Dbol 25 MG ed

    Would that be okay or still to much?
    I know it's a little hardcore for 2nd cycle but I think this might be manageable.

    I know article says 500 but it is my second cycle.

    The guy that gives me advice has been doing roids for a long time which is why I listen but I think he's more old school. He actually suggested me to do 1800mg a week.
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    He's an idiot - and what your failing to realize is that w/those additional compounds you can't control your E2 which in return will raise your prolactin and increase the aromatization rate(especially w/d-Bol & Tren - though it doesn't aromatize it certainly is a progestin which will wreck havoc on your breast tissue!

    I'm in agreement with BIB drop all except the test and even drop that to 5-600 wkly...
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    Seen as you took norealnotice of what I gave you to read I suggest you try and help yourself. Read it again twice then post your test only cycle, ancillaries and PCT plan.

    You weigh 160lbs you need food not shed loads of gear.

    Is your advisor your dealer too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    You need to take 10 steps back and start over before you hurt yourself.
    Whoever has been giving you cycle advice needs kicking squarely in the cvnt.

    X2 big time. Ridiculous.
    Op, post a current pic. It will help us determine whether your remotely close to a cycle such as the one you're on.
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    Is the guy giving you advice also selling you the compounds? Sounds like he's in it for the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    He's an idiot - and what your failing to realize is that w/those additional compounds you can't control your E2 which in return will raise your prolactin and increase the aromatization rate(especially w/d-Bol & Tren - though it doesn't aromatize it certainly is a progestin which will wreck havoc on your breast tissue!

    I'm in agreement with BIB drop all except the test and even drop that to 5-600 wkly...
    OK thx.
    I'll give it another week or two with lower dosages and see if my sensitivity increases because at this time it is barely there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RigPig View Post
    Is the guy giving you advice also selling you the compounds? Sounds like he's in it for the money.
    He gets nothing out of it. I buy it from a different guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Seen as you took norealnotice of what I gave you to read I suggest you try and help yourself. Read it again twice then post your test only cycle, ancillaries and PCT plan.

    You weigh 160lbs you need food not shed loads of gear.

    Is your advisor your dealer too?
    I'm thin boned. I used to be 115 with Lil bit of muscle. I got up to 145 naturally.
    No, he's not my dealer.

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    Imho, something is off... Diet? Training program? No way you need all those compounds(seems like everyone thinks in one cycle they will be transformed into whatever they think

    If all was on par you'd make great results w/test only at 500mgs wkly

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubrovin1012
    Yes I am planning to do bw at 6 weeks but for now I'll take guesses. I have been taking arimidex since day 1 at .25 eod. I'll start .5 today.
    I would go with .50 mgs of adex e3d. It doesn't sound like much but you don't need much of an increase. You can always bump it up later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Imho, something is off... Diet? Training program? No way you need all those compounds(seems like everyone thinks in one cycle they will be transformed into whatever they think

    If all was on par you'd make great results w/test only at 500mgs wkly
    I did lose most of my gains from my first cycle. Had shoulder injury and wisdom teeth pulled out so kind of lost motivation.

    My diet was kinda shitty but it's allot better now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown View Post

    I would go with .50 mgs of adex e3d. It doesn't sound like much but you don't need much of an increase. You can always bump it up later.
    Okay I'll try that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubrovin1012 View Post
    I did lose most of my gains from my first cycle. Had shoulder injury and wisdom teeth pulled out so kind of lost motivation.

    My diet was kinda shitty but it's allot better now.
    Injuries suck buddy... And most of in this game have some to a degree some are worse than others - but Diet is the key!

    If your gonna stick w/those compounds I'd also do .5 e3d or .25 eod til BW is pulled so you can make adjustments - Prami will be of much help as your E2 is not controlled at this time(causing your prolac to elevate as well... I would listen to BIB/Kel and drop those other compounds as its only gonna make your sides much worse... Just my .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post

    Injuries suck buddy... And most of in this game have some to a degree some are worse than others - but Diet is the key!

    If your gonna stick w/those compounds I'd also do .5 e3d or .25 eod til BW is pulled so you can make adjustments - Prami will be of much help as your E2 is not controlled at this time... I would listen to BIB/Kel and drop those other compounds as its only gonna make your sides much worse... Just my .02
    Thx allot.

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    I think you are a bit higher than what you think in terms of bodyfat.

    Absolutely no need to run any more than 500mg per week of test only. Hope you will listen to that.

    Oh, and post your diet up let's see what it's like and tell us your goals too.
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    I would listen to the advice above. I am only on my third cycle and I have done just test up until now. On my next cycle I am adding winny but I am not even thinking of tren until many cycles down the road when I know how my body works. BW is also ideal. But this is all just a repeat of what was said above. Also, always keep nolva on hand.

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    3:30 am
    1 cup oatmeal with fat free milk
    Protein shake 25 grams
    Off to work

    6:00 am
    Verde Chicken with Brown Rice and Vegetables
    PROTEIN: 56g | CARBS: 31g | FAT: 8g | CAL: 416

    8:00 am snack
    It could be a banana, apple or something like that.

    9:00 am
    Flank Steak with Mashed Sweet Potatoes and Vegetables
    PROTEIN: 53.5g | CARBS: 31g | FAT: 12g | CAL: 442

    12:00 pm
    Chicken Fajitas with Vegetables with Brown Rice
    PROTEIN: 50g | CARBS: 27g | FAT: 8g | CAL: 376

    3:00 pm
    Protein shake 25 grams
    Off to the gym

    Post workout
    Within 15-20 min
    Protein shake 25 grams

    Post workout meal
    Within an hour
    Ground Turkey Chili with Pinto and Black Beans with Brown Rice
    PROTEIN: 68g | CARBS: 79g | FAT: 9g | CAL: 665

    7:00 pm
    oatmeal 1 cup with fat free milk


    8:00 pm
    Sleep

    Protein: around 299
    Carbs: around 318
    Fat: around 60



    Meals change but they're within the same range regards to protein, carbs , etc

    I want to be at least 180. Maybe go higher. I want to be able to run up hills if I have to, don't want to be too heavy.
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    And you are bulking? What results has this plan been giving you?

    Way too much protein regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    And you are bulking? What results has this plan been giving you?

    Way too much protein regardless.
    Yes I'm bulking.

    I started this meal plan last week wed. But since I started the cycle 2 weeks ago I've gained 6 lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubrovin1012 View Post
    Yes I'm bulking.

    I started this meal plan last week wed. But since I started the cycle 2 weeks ago I've gained 6 lbs
    Protein gets stored just like any other macro(C/F/& P) if your not utilizing all your protein it will get stored as fat just like anything else... Until it's burned off! On another note - too much protein can cause proteinuria(which is protein in your urine) as it'll spill over when you consume too much! Just food for thought(as BIB stated its too much) thus causing more to be stored!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post

    Protein gets stored just like any other macro(C/F/& P) if your not utilizing all your protein it will get stored as fat just like anything else... Until it's burned off! On another note - too much protein can cause proteinuria(which is protein in your urine) as it'll spill over when you consume too much! Just food for thought(as BIB stated its too much) thus causing more to be stored!
    What would be a good amount?
    I work out for about an hour and a half.

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    1.5g per lb of LBM(weight) is what I meant...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubrovin1012 View Post
    What would be a good amount?

    1.5g per lean lb of bodyweight. For you that's about 210g

    I work out for about an hour and a half.

    Doing what? Surely not lifting for that long?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post

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    Today my warm up was 10 minutes on the bike and lifting for 1 and half hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubrovin1012 View Post
    Today my warm up was 10 minutes on the bike and lifting for 1 and half hours.
    Can you list today's workout, seems waaaaay too long.
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