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05-08-2015, 05:51 PM #1Associate Member
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I got prami on the way. It might be a week or so. Its my second cycle. I had problems with sensitive nipples in my first cycle also but I was uninformed about arimidex and prami.
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BW is the only way of knowing - we're all just guessing...
Have you been taking .25mgs of dex EOD throughout this cycle?
I know my body but I've not ran d-Bol but if I did I would dose my dex at .5 EOD especially w/the compounds your using(note when you do cease the d-Bol then your aromatization rate will decrease) hence the BW...
Only you can know this through more experience - but BW should always be apart of your ore cycle status mid cycle for any adjustments post pct 8 wks
Edit*** well definitely wait to pull bloods(6 wk mark) but just start your prami li want bed time and titrate up according to how you feel...Last edited by NACH3; 05-08-2015 at 08:30 PM.
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05-08-2015, 09:37 PM #6Associate Member
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Yes I am planning to do bw at 6 weeks but for now I'll take guesses.
I have been taking arimidex since day 1 at .25 eod. I'll start .5 today.
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ThX for all the responses and helping me deal with sides . Always appreciated.
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Dbol is notorious for this. Your just getting started it will settle down. Keep some nolva on hand.
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05-09-2015, 01:33 AM #10
You should drop the tren and d'bol and learn how to control the test before you start adding in any other compounds. You have no idea what is causing your problem and by the time you get bloodwork done your problems may well escalate and set in.
Aren't you on over a gram of test per week on your second cycle?Last edited by Back In Black; 05-09-2015 at 01:38 AM.
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05-09-2015, 07:09 AM #12Originally Posted by dubrovin1012
How much d'bol and tren ?
What amounts did you take on your first cycle?
What's your
Height
Weight
Bodyfat%?NO SOURCES GIVEN
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05-09-2015, 07:37 AM #13Associate Member
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I thought norm was 1200 to 1800
I did 800 on my first
Tren 600
Dbol 25 ed
5'6
160
Around 13-15 bf%
What would be the ideal amount?
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05-09-2015, 07:44 AM #14
You need to take 10 steps back and start over before you hurt yourself. .this link should be the cycle you follow
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html
Whoever has been giving you cycle advice needs kicking squarely in the cvnt.NO SOURCES GIVEN
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how about this
Test 400 mg Mon-thur 800 MG a wk
Tren 200 mg Mon-thur 400 MG a wk
Dbol 25 MG ed
Would that be okay or still to much?
I know it's a little hardcore for 2nd cycle but I think this might be manageable.
I know article says 500 but it is my second cycle.
The guy that gives me advice has been doing roids for a long time which is why I listen but I think he's more old school. He actually suggested me to do 1800mg a week.Last edited by dubrovin1012; 05-09-2015 at 08:12 AM.
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He's an idiot - and what your failing to realize is that w/those additional compounds you can't control your E2 which in return will raise your prolactin and increase the aromatization rate(especially w/d-Bol & Tren - though it doesn't aromatize it certainly is a progestin which will wreck havoc on your breast tissue!
I'm in agreement with BIB drop all except the test and even drop that to 5-600 wkly...Last edited by NACH3; 05-09-2015 at 08:40 AM.
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05-09-2015, 09:20 AM #17
Seen as you took norealnotice of what I gave you to read I suggest you try and help yourself. Read it again twice then post your test only cycle, ancillaries and PCT plan.
You weigh 160lbs you need food not shed loads of gear.
Is your advisor your dealer too?NO SOURCES GIVEN
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Is the guy giving you advice also selling you the compounds? Sounds like he's in it for the money.
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Imho, something is off... Diet? Training program? No way you need all those compounds(seems like everyone thinks in one cycle they will be transformed into whatever they think
If all was on par you'd make great results w/test only at 500mgs wkly
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05-09-2015, 11:11 AM #25Originally Posted by dubrovin1012
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Injuries suck buddy... And most of in this game have some to a degree some are worse than others - but Diet is the key!
If your gonna stick w/those compounds I'd also do .5 e3d or .25 eod til BW is pulled so you can make adjustments - Prami will be of much help as your E2 is not controlled at this time(causing your prolac to elevate as well... I would listen to BIB/Kel and drop those other compounds as its only gonna make your sides much worse... Just my .02
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I would listen to the advice above. I am only on my third cycle and I have done just test up until now. On my next cycle I am adding winny but I am not even thinking of tren until many cycles down the road when I know how my body works. BW is also ideal. But this is all just a repeat of what was said above. Also, always keep nolva on hand.
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3:30 am
1 cup oatmeal with fat free milk
Protein shake 25 grams
Off to work
6:00 am
Verde Chicken with Brown Rice and Vegetables
PROTEIN: 56g | CARBS: 31g | FAT: 8g | CAL: 416
8:00 am snack
It could be a banana, apple or something like that.
9:00 am
Flank Steak with Mashed Sweet Potatoes and Vegetables
PROTEIN: 53.5g | CARBS: 31g | FAT: 12g | CAL: 442
12:00 pm
Chicken Fajitas with Vegetables with Brown Rice
PROTEIN: 50g | CARBS: 27g | FAT: 8g | CAL: 376
3:00 pm
Protein shake 25 grams
Off to the gym
Post workout
Within 15-20 min
Protein shake 25 grams
Post workout meal
Within an hour
Ground Turkey Chili with Pinto and Black Beans with Brown Rice
PROTEIN: 68g | CARBS: 79g | FAT: 9g | CAL: 665
7:00 pm
oatmeal 1 cup with fat free milk
8:00 pm
Sleep
Protein: around 299
Carbs: around 318
Fat: around 60
Meals change but they're within the same range regards to protein, carbs , etc
I want to be at least 180. Maybe go higher. I want to be able to run up hills if I have to, don't want to be too heavy.Last edited by dubrovin1012; 05-09-2015 at 01:24 PM.
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05-09-2015, 01:06 PM #33
And you are bulking? What results has this plan been giving you?
Way too much protein regardless.NO SOURCES GIVEN
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Protein gets stored just like any other macro(C/F/& P) if your not utilizing all your protein it will get stored as fat just like anything else... Until it's burned off! On another note - too much protein can cause proteinuria(which is protein in your urine) as it'll spill over when you consume too much! Just food for thought(as BIB stated its too much) thus causing more to be stored!
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1.5g per lb of LBM(weight) is what I meant...
Last edited by NACH3; 05-09-2015 at 02:00 PM. Reason: Edit / added weight next to LBM lol
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