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**NACH3** · 05-09-2015, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Can you list today's workout, seems waaaaay too long.

^^^ this how can you lift that long(not very intensely that's for sure) My weight sessions are usually no more than 45-50 min and 50min is pushing it... You can't possibly sustain the type of intensity it takes if your lifting for 90min - meaning your taking lots of time in between sets cery low intensity and definitely not recruiting any type 2b muscle fibers if you are lifting...

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**DrewZ** · 05-09-2015, 02:11 PM

^ x2
The best workouts I ever have are in the 30-45 minute range, I never exceed an hour of resistance training.

**NACH3** · 05-09-2015, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by DrewZ

^ x2
The best workouts I ever have are in the 30-45 minute range, I never exceed an hour of resistance training.

Drew, I ususlly avg say 36-44 min(HIT)... Yours Sounds very similar / & just as intense

**dubrovin1012** · 05-09-2015, 02:40 PM

Cable lats
Free weight machine lats
Free weight machine upper back
X4 each
Cable upper back
Bent over bar pull up
Wide grip pull ups
Dumbell curls
Cable curls
Cable hammer curls
Dumbbell hammer curls
X2 each

Traps X4

During my workout I'm sweating so is pretty intense.

**NACH3** · 05-09-2015, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by dubrovin1012

Cable lats
Free weight machine lats
Free weight machine upper back
X4 each
Cable upper back
Bent over bar pull up
Wide grip pull ups
Dumbell curls
Cable curls
Cable hammer curls
Dumbbell hammer curls
X2 each

Traps X4

During my workout I'm sweating so is pretty intense.

Wayyy to many sets - I can achieve the same thing w/4 exercises in half the sets(1 balls out set into failure then drop sets for beyond failure protocol-force reps negs Rest pauses - I'm still new to this but it's been the best training I've ever did and will only do...

**Buster Brown** · 05-09-2015, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by DrewZ

^ x2 The best workouts I ever have are in the 30-45 minute range, I never exceed an hour of resistance training.

That's debatable guys and by no means written in stone. HIT is effective and a PL style routine requiring more rest can and has for me packed on plenty of size. I think OP has jumped the gun with cycling before he has built a solid base however .

**dubrovin1012** · 05-09-2015, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Wayyy to many sets - I can achieve the same thing w/4 exercises in half the sets(1 balls out set into failure then drop sets for beyond failure protocol-force reps negs Rest pauses - I'm still new to this but it's been the best training I've ever did and will only do...

I do drop sets also. My workout is a mixture of all. From what I get more is better when you on roids.

**NACH3** · 05-09-2015, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

That's debatable guys and by no means written in stone. HIT is effective and a PL style routine requiring more rest can and has for me packed on plenty of size. I think OP has jumped the gun with cycling before he has built a solid base however .

Buster, no one said PL training doesn't work well... Everyone's different and PL routines(although I wasn't at my best) made me very strong as well as to be able to hold more mass(but that's just not my thing now) however I would love to try a real PL routine out and I'm all ears if you want to explain it to me!

OP - all I can say is your program/& diet will dictate your gains whether your doing periodization training, HIT, whatever but I think getting a routine and sticking w/it for 6-9(at most)wks and if the results aren't there it's time to switch it up...

**Buster Brown** · 05-09-2015, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Buster, no one said PL training doesn't work well... Everyone's different and PL routines(although I wasn't at my best) made me very strong as well as to be able to hold more mass(but that's just not my thing now) however I would love to try a real PL routine out and I'm all ears if you want to explain it to me!

OP - all I can say is your program/& diet will dictate your gains whether your doing periodization training, HIT, whatever but I think getting a routine and sticking w/it for 6-9(at most)wks and if the results aren't there it's time to switch it up...

I wasn't implying that anyone said they didn't work. My point was more in reference to the amount of time spent in the gym....that's all which a style that's more PL based would require. Me personally.......I like being a stronger bodybuilder and train in both styles. I also feel that training in that fashion forces you to develop better.......but that's me.

**NACH3** · 05-09-2015, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

I wasn't implying that anyone said they didn't work. My point was more in reference to the amount of time spent in the gym....that's all which a style that's more PL based would require. Me personally.......I like being a stronger bodybuilder and train in both styles. I also feel that training in that fashion forces you to develop better.......but that's me.

I agree w/you... i just didn't want you to think that it's the only way b/c clearly yhere is a great balance between the two... I just was never fortunate enough to train w/or even know a true PL until I came to this site lol! I would love to implement this type of training(or a combo) in the winter time moreso for true bulking! Thx for sharing and like I said I would love to hear from you sometime regarding a good PL routine

**lovbyts** · 06-08-2015, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by dubrovin1012

I'm thin boned. I used to be 115 with Lil bit of muscle. I got up to 145 naturally.
No, he's not my dealer.

You know I have to LOL every time I see a statement like this. Sorry to say but for the most part skeleton bones are pretty much the same size/thickness dependent on age and no bone disease. In all this time only one (1) big boned skeleton has ever been found.
First "Big-Boned" skeleton discovered | Surreal Scoop

Bone size/diameter is based on your overall size/height and has nothing or VERY little to do with weight, fat or muscle mass

**zempey** · 06-08-2015, 05:57 AM

I remember watching one of those celebrity shows about fatties having to lose weight. Some fat fuk was using the big boned excuse. Well they did a bone density measurement against the trainer and fat boy, the trainer was in good shape, not huge but fit. The trainer had significantly more bone density and size compared to fatty, so his excuse went straight out the window. Big boned is no excuse for being fat, laziness and poor self control are.

**dubrovin1012** · 06-08-2015, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

You know I have to LOL every time I see a statement like this. Sorry to say but for the most part skeleton bones are pretty much the same size/thickness dependent on age and no bone disease. In all this time only one (1) big boned skeleton has ever been found.
First "Big-Boned" skeleton discovered | Surreal Scoop

Bone size/diameter is based on your overall size/height and has nothing or VERY little to do with weight, fat or muscle mass

Well I have a small overall size.
My wrist, ankles, everything (except for my dick of course) is allot thinner than average guy.