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    The Classic wither to use gear or not!

    Hello, Im new to this forum as you can see. I am going through what every bodybuilder goes through at some point of his life. To start with Im 19 years old (yes probably too young for most people to ask this question and i will definitly be flamed but keep reading) i have been lifting for 4 years and 3 of those years are solid training. I am 5'6 and about 160 Lbs. Im currently taking a PT certificate and i already work as a trainer at a local gym near me. so you can say i know a not bad amount about training and nutrition. My diet consists of 6 to 5 meals a day spread out ofcourse which contains about 200 grams of proteins which is more than enough for me, in additiong to the supplements ofcourse. in addition to that ive participated in a Physique competition and got 4th place over my region and im hopefully running for 1st next time im in. Now to the final part which is growth, i know im not that tall but i did the X-ray test to know wither or not i can still grow but what appeared to be the result is that my plates closed and my growth has stopped, so the growth thing is no longer a problem.
    So to get to the point, I am thinking about taking my first steroid cycle in order to prepare for my next competition and ofcourse to be able to boost my work as a trainer since bigger trainers usually make more money (if they know what they're doing ofcourse), so for my first cycle i am thinkin about taking the classic Test and Deca cycle which will be a 10 weeks cycle which contains 250-Test and a 100-Deca every week, and for PCT i already have Nolvaed on hand and HCG . Supplements wise im going to be taking a weight gainer creatine glutamine amino acids and BCAAs.
    So what i would like to ask is do you think its a good move or not?
    Please keep in mind that your answer should be backed up with solid points, I really don't want to hear you're too young to use gear or some bullshit troll answers please.
    Thanks and sorry for the long post

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    hopefully since you are getting a pt certificate you can understand that cycling before age 25 can fk up your natural hormones for life since they are still developing read the sticky on here about the young and steroids

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    You don't want to hear you are too young but, guess what, you are too young. Don't worry, most people don't want to hear what they need to hear.

    There is more to growth than height. Here is some reading for you

    Explanation of HPTA / Endocrine System & How Steroids Affect You

    BTW, most trainers I know have limited knowledge in terms of nutrition or workout regimes. Not saying you don't but at 19 you have lots to learn. On the plus side you are in the right place. I'd like to see you post your diet in the diet section with details of the results it is giving you and what your goals are.

    Maybe post a pic so we can see how well you are already doing naturally.
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    Also here's a few ongoing cases(unfortunately) of kids your age cycling and the problems theyre having(major ones - life altering)

    ***Cycles going wrong for the young***

    And it seems your PCT protocol is off and when to use hCG is wrong... Read some more and educate yourself - your obviously too young - but take this time to learn everything you can about cycling, diet(we can all do better), training(at 19 you haven't tried most training to know what is really the best way for you) - nows as a good a time as ever to really dial in these phases and continue to learn - are a few lbs of gains worth possibly messing up your HPTA/Endoctine system for life?!?!?!

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    No your too young
    Come back in 5 years dude

    Good luck with the career!

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    Sore joints where you need deca and other medicine to feel good,a mission to get a hardened penis without synthetic aids, gyno and now a sore heart that feels like its not beating correctly.. thats my experience as a current 26 year old with drug use while the body is still developing. The first few years are great then the sides get worse and worse and it gets harder and harder to correct them. Oh and a mate of mine started at 17 and he has something wrong with his liver and now his brain he tells me.
    I accept these sides and do my best to adapt to suit them but when a smoking hot bitchh wants to take you back to her flat for sexual relations and you have to say "sorry sweetheart i left my cialis at home"it can get embarrassing.can you live with sides like that op?
    Enjoy your choice op.

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    Thank you all, I really appreciate the fact that none of you actually flamed unlike many other shitty forums. I have read all of what you posted and they definitely were a good read so thanks for that, as for the decision I did get second thoughts about using gear for now, but to be quite frank with you guys, the thought of getting those massive gains at this age and just moving through out those competitions and crushing them makes me feel that i would do anything to get them. That being said i can not make a decision based on how i feel so until i have enough knowledge and until i am sure of what i want this is definitely going to be on hold.
    Again thank you all, btw i will post my diet soom as i get the chance to write it down since i usually eat what i have but i usually have what i need hahah so yahh.

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    Good decision nice to see you respond in a mature manner rather than most who would say "phuck off im doing it anyway, give me advice now"

    Its hard to stay patient but it will pay off!

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