Tren/Winstrol Anxiety

**Kanger** · 08-21-2015, 09:16 AM

Three weeks ago I completed a 10 week cycle of Andromix 2cc EOD and Winstrol 50 mg ed. also took arimidex .5mg ed and caber .5mg every 3-4 days. After cycle completion I resumed hrt of test C 100 mg per week. One week after the cycle ended I had an anxiety attack with no previous history of anxiety issues. 2 weeks have gone by and I am still having strong anxiety all day long. Just wanted to get thoughts on wether my body needs more time and the symptoms will go away when my body levels stabilize

**numbere** · 08-21-2015, 10:35 AM

Do you know what's causing your anxiety?

**musclestack** · 08-21-2015, 10:44 AM

Did you get blood work done?

Describe your anxiety. During the last 2 weeks of my last cycle, I got very irritable/anxious. I could think of something that happened 10 years ago, and it would piss me off/make me worried. It got a lot better after PCT though.

**Ashop** · 08-21-2015, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by numbere

Do you know what's causing your anxiety?

It doesn't make much sense that it happened AFTER the cycle,,,especially since your still using your TRT.
Sometimes people wont follow a proper PCT and crash afterwards but since your doing TRT a PCT is not needed.
Any issues at home,,,work,,,money,,other stressful life issues that could be a factor???

**tectime** · 08-21-2015, 11:47 AM

Pull some bloods and check your estrogen levels. When mine get even a little elevated I tend to notice anxiety level is also heightened.

**Kanger** · 08-21-2015, 12:01 PM

Have blood work in the mix. Haven't seen results yet.

**Kanger** · 08-21-2015, 12:03 PM

I didnt take my first Test C shot until 1 week after. Maybe the lag between cycle and the long ester didn't get it into my system in time?

**Kanger** · 08-21-2015, 12:05 PM

Do you think I should add in an anti estrogen for a few weeks?

**Kanger** · 08-21-2015, 12:09 PM

Ended up in the er with anxiety attack. anxiety is fears and negative thoughts pouring through my head, sweating, palpitations, Blood pressure shot to 189-116. claustrophobic, sensitive, fear of now having anxiety and not knowing if it will evr go away, etc.

**Back In Black** · 08-21-2015, 12:29 PM

Your test levels probably crashed. You stopped injecting prop then started cyp 1 week after.

Should have ran your TRT cyp all the way through. Once your levels get back up you should be ok.

**Kanger** · 08-21-2015, 12:56 PM

Sounds good. I'll do twice a week injections to stabilize my T. Thanks,

**InternalFire** · 08-21-2015, 01:09 PM

Im no expert but the jump off may have been too sudden? I could imagine be better of tappering down to HRT normal dose at first starting little higher and then even it out to what you used to weekly etc 100mg Test-C... does it sound correct?

by the way, do you use any stims like coffee, preworkouts or any other energy drinks?

**SEOINAGE** · 08-21-2015, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by InsaneMuscle

Im no expert but the jump off may have been too sudden? I could imagine be better of tappering down to HRT normal dose at first starting little higher and then even it out to what you used to weekly etc 100mg Test-C... does it sound correct? by the way, do you use any stims like coffee, preworkouts or any other energy drinks?

Shouldn't be needed, but going from prop to cyp was probably a contributor. Takes time for cyp to build up. I've skipped injections coming off cycle in order to stabilizer at a lower level more quickly, but was using cyp for both.

**SEOINAGE** · 08-21-2015, 01:27 PM

I might add tren and t3 can give me anxiety. This week it's constant all day, I dunno how I handle it and function. But I constantly have these feelings and every couple seconds I think something and then my heart gets going and it intensifies. And every little thing I think about it causing it.

**Kanger** · 08-21-2015, 01:37 PM

thats the same as what I am experiencing. Brutal

**InternalFire** · 08-21-2015, 02:14 PM

Dunno if its appropriate to advice on such thing but its something I found very useful, you may wanna try some nicotine gum, get the 2mg pieces or lesser dose, or you can split these pieces in half, if you're non-smoker already of course, it does wonders for anxiety and depression calming, calms the head pretty well and I'm taking 2mg gum every 3-4 hours and works real well when needed, balances out the head and mind and stupid stuff that would drive me nuts just looks like something I'd have nothing to do with and I can just look at it like from the side with no feelings toward it or with very little emotion to it.

Nicotine alone in these chewing gums does some real wonders for messed up head. However, would suggest never take more than 2mg every 2-3h unless you're good with it, have no sides and so on and never take in the morning until you had your meal about 30-60minutes after the meal, having it too soon may upset stomach, and further more it may not be best idea taking bigger doses right before bed, it raises blood pressure somewhat little bit...
At first I tried splitting 2mg piece in quarters and I didnt feel anything untill whole 2mg piece went trough my teeth, 1mg is equal 1 full cigarette, so its like having 2mg=2cigarettes worth of nicotine, but mind that you dont chew trough it straight away, you chew for a bit then place it behind the teeth between your cheek etc and chew every 20-30 mins for some seconds and hold it there again

you may wanna read on some info on nicotine, I was surprised of the benefits, all links here, have a read:

Smoking and hormones in health and endocrine disorders
Warning: nicotine seriously improves health | UK News | The Observer
How can nicotine be good for me? - HowStuffWorks

Beware - it should be very addictive of something like 95% addiction ratio, so you may get on it and may "not want to come off", and I did consider the addiction thing, and thought if it helps why do I care if I get addicted to it, as long as it works and its negative sides are so minute I couldn't not to try risking the addiction. However, I have had no tolerance to it, been on it for some months and I could have some high dose on bad days like 8-10mg a day total and then following 3-5 days be perfectly without it, it just doesnt happen that I start to crave it, I just notice myself being out of hands/out of control and I just know what I gotta do and it helps me like magic

Of course, I'd strongly advice read the safety papers included in the pack you buy if you decide to try, there's tons "do's" and "not to do" things...

Thought I will share, and maybe it helps at least to some extent

**bigdil511** · 08-21-2015, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Your test levels probably crashed. You stopped injecting prop then started cyp 1 week after. Should have ran your TRT cyp all the way through. Once your levels get back up you should be ok.

This ^^, always keep trt dose if you are running prop, it completely dissipated and you had 0 test and freaked out.