gaining muscle on dnp?

**kevin56656** · 10-06-2017, 03:25 PM

okay so before i get any hate. I have run dnp before, i mean i binged eat the fuck out of the kitchen so i didnt lose weight cuz omg dnp gives you crazy ass cravings. So i know what to expect when i run dnp, i know it is a very dangerous drug and hated by alot of peeps, but it;s not as bad as some of you think if you know what you are doing,,,
Anyway my question is. would it be possible to GAIN muscle on dnp while running test? or even tren ?
not looking for raging comments plz, if you;re not gonna be helpful then just dont post...

**austinite** · 10-06-2017, 09:44 PM

Nothing can stop a healthy body from gaining muscle.

**Couchlock** · 10-07-2017, 02:58 AM

^^its hard for a poisoned body to gain muscle also^^

**thisAngelBites** · 10-07-2017, 04:24 AM

DNP gives you cravings because it uncouples the ATP production of your mitochondria. This means that it causes them to leak protons which should have been used to make cellular energy, but instead converted them into heat.

The end product of this is that you are starving the cells in your body of energy, and your hypothalamus takes its job of preventing you from starving your cells to death semi-seriously, so it sends a bunch of chemical signals for you to eat some food, so your cells don't die. Now obviously there's a spectrum between not leaking protons and turning most of your protons into heat so that you cook yourself, which is why some people have died from DNP and others lose weight.

As to whether some testosterone will help you gain muscle while losing fat using DNP, I'm not positive because I don't know of any evidence as a result of people who have tried this in a quantified way, but I would say if you're denying your cells energy because you're turning it into heat, it's not likely you will have the ATP necessary to repair muscle unless you eat enough food to make sufficient ATP, which means you're probably just going to make a lot of heat but not lose weight. So why take the DNP at all?

**tarmyg** · 10-07-2017, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

DNP gives you cravings because it uncouples the ATP production of your mitochondria. This means that it causes them to leak protons which should have been used to make cellular energy, but instead converted them into heat.

The end product of this is that you are starving the cells in your body of energy, and your hypothalamus takes its job of preventing you from starving your cells to death semi-seriously, so it sends a bunch of chemical signals for you to eat some food, so your cells don't die. Now obviously there's a spectrum between not leaking protons and turning most of your protons into heat so that you cook yourself, which is why some people have died from DNP and others lose weight.

As to whether some testosterone will help you gain muscle while losing fat using DNP, I'm not positive because I don't know of any evidence as a result of people who have tried this in a quantified way, but I would say if you're denying your cells energy because you're turning it into heat, it's not likely you will have the ATP necessary to repair muscle unless you eat enough food to make sufficient ATP, which means you're probably just going to make a lot of heat but not lose weight. So why take the DNP at all?

Extremely pleasant surprise to see you post. Welcome back!

**austinite** · 10-07-2017, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

^^its hard for a poisoned body to gain muscle also^^

Agreed.

**Mr. Small** · 10-07-2017, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

^^its hard for a poisoned body to gain muscle also^^

What about dead bodies that overdose on DNP ?

**Couchlock** · 10-07-2017, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Small

What about dead bodies that overdose on DNP?

Yes

Fwiw, I was a fatter than fat BASTARD. I would never poison myself to loose weight.

Exersise hard in a deficit gives permanent weight loss, not the temporary kind that comes from stuff like this. Its just backwards to me.

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**MuscleScience** · 10-07-2017, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

DNP gives you cravings because it uncouples the ATP production of your mitochondria. This means that it causes them to leak protons which should have been used to make cellular energy, but instead converted them into heat.

The end product of this is that you are starving the cells in your body of energy, and your hypothalamus takes its job of preventing you from starving your cells to death semi-seriously, so it sends a bunch of chemical signals for you to eat some food, so your cells don't die. Now obviously there's a spectrum between not leaking protons and turning most of your protons into heat so that you cook yourself, which is why some people have died from DNP and others lose weight.

As to whether some testosterone will help you gain muscle while losing fat using DNP, I'm not positive because I don't know of any evidence as a result of people who have tried this in a quantified way, but I would say if you're denying your cells energy because you're turning it into heat, it's not likely you will have the ATP necessary to repair muscle unless you eat enough food to make sufficient ATP, which means you're probably just going to make a lot of heat but not lose weight. So why take the DNP at all?

Damn! Badass answer!!!

I haven’t heard anyone talk about uncoupled ATP rxn since my cell phys days. That was awesome!

**kevin56656** · 10-08-2017, 06:34 AM

HAH, honestly dnp gets too much of a bad rep, I personally think people that die of dnp SEVERELY overdose it and most likely are dehydrated ( i had a little scare once when on dnp, due to dehydration.) But, i think i'll probably just run a low dose of test maybe 250 mg a week, to preserve muscle since i'm also going to be running t3 with the dnp. should i ditch the trenbolone ? I feel using it might we a waste, also too many drugs all at once lol. DNP heat+tren heat= roasting skin <3 and severe dehyration

**numbere** · 10-08-2017, 06:45 AM

DNP + t3 + test + tren that's a lot of seriously powerful drugs.

How much weight are you trying to lose and in what period of time?

**tarmyg** · 10-08-2017, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by kevin56656

HAH, honestly dnp gets too much of a bad rep, I personally think people that die of dnp SEVERELY overdose it and most likely are dehydrated ( i had a little scare once when on dnp, due to dehydration.) But, i think i'll probably just run a low dose of test maybe 250 mg a week, to preserve muscle since i'm also going to be running t3 with the dnp. should i ditch the trenbolone? I feel using it might we a waste, also too many drugs all at once lol. DNP heat+tren heat= roasting skin <3 and severe dehyration

It's easier to die of DNP due to the simple fact that you are dealing with a very serious compound that, if misdosed inside the capsules, you can overdose on very easily. In order to do this correctly you need access to a scale that measures in mcg which most people do not have. You also need a sterile environment and order pure DNP from a reputable chemical company. All these things makes it very easy for Joe Blow in his garage to misdose, infect and get non-pure DNP, and this will not be his problem, it will be yours.

**marcus300** · 10-08-2017, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by kevin56656

HAH, honestly dnp gets too much of a bad rep, I personally think people that die of dnp SEVERELY overdose it and most likely are dehydrated ( i had a little scare once when on dnp, due to dehydration.) But, i think i'll probably just run a low dose of test maybe 250 mg a week, to preserve muscle since i'm also going to be running t3 with the dnp. should i ditch the trenbolone? I feel using it might we a waste, also too many drugs all at once lol. DNP heat+tren heat= roasting skin <3 and severe dehyration

The LD is to close to any therapeutic dose which when your dealing with a ugl your playing Russian roulette with your life. It's also a poison what microwaves your insides and for the risk vs reward there are far better alternatives out there.

**Couchlock** · 10-08-2017, 10:48 AM

To answer original question, no its not possible to put on muscle whilst on the brink of death

**thisAngelBites** · 10-10-2017, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by kevin56656

HAH, honestly dnp gets too much of a bad rep, I personally think people that die of dnp SEVERELY overdose it and most likely are dehydrated ( i had a little scare once when on dnp, due to dehydration.) But, i think i'll probably just run a low dose of test maybe 250 mg a week, to preserve muscle since i'm also going to be running t3 with the dnp. should i ditch the trenbolone? I feel using it might we a waste, also too many drugs all at once lol. DNP heat+tren heat= roasting skin <3 and severe dehyration

There is a big problem in that DNP has a long half life, which means that while people are taking it every day, it's massively building up in the body, which cannot clear it that fast, and I am pretty sure they are not taking that into account, because people often take drugs based on their sense of things (when it is convenient, or how quickly they want to see results, and all sorts of dumb reasons apart from the one reason they should care about, which is the half-life).

I've seen it written that the half life to DNP is 36 hours (but guess that this is an approximation as I have never seen a study of the actual pharmacokinetics, just comments on bodybuilding sites). But really, it would not be smart to not dose this drug based on clearance rates, and that doesn't even take into account the issue Tarmyg raised about whether one can rely on how well the supplier weighed up the chemical.

I have a lab scale myself, because I am a badass

but not everyone does.

**ghettoboyd** · 10-10-2017, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

There is a big problem in that DNP has a long half life, which means that while people are taking it every day, it's massively building up in the body, which cannot clear it that fast, and I am pretty sure they are not taking that into account, because people often take drugs based on their sense of things (when it is convenient, or how quickly they want to see results, and all sorts of dumb reasons apart from the one reason they should care about, which is the half-life).

I've seen it written that the half life to DNP is 36 hours (but guess that this is an approximation as I have never seen a study of the actual pharmacokinetics, just comments on bodybuilding sites). But really, it would not be smart to not dose this drug based on clearance rates, and that doesn't even take into account the issue Tarmyg raised about whether one can rely on how well the supplier weighed up the chemical.

I have a lab scale myself, because I am a badass

but not everyone does.

nice to see you around.... your are a very valuable asset to this board and anytime I see you post on a thread I open it because I know I'm going to learn something no matter what the subject...rock on with your badass self...

**Couchlock** · 10-10-2017, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

There is a big problem in that DNP has a long half life, which means that while people are taking it every day, it's massively building up in the body, which cannot clear it that fast, and I am pretty sure they are not taking that into account, because people often take drugs based on their sense of things (when it is convenient, or how quickly they want to see results, and all sorts of dumb reasons apart from the one reason they should care about, which is the half-life).

I've seen it written that the half life to DNP is 36 hours (but guess that this is an approximation as I have never seen a study of the actual pharmacokinetics, just comments on bodybuilding sites). But really, it would not be smart to not dose this drug based on clearance rates, and that doesn't even take into account the issue Tarmyg raised about whether one can rely on how well the supplier weighed up the chemical.

I have a lab scale myself, because I am a badass

but not everyone does.

All I know is this, I would be damned if input a substance into my body that Hitler gave to concentration camp inmates to get "more" out of them temporarily, before they died. Think about the fate of those people, and then think how much he cared if he lost them to death....

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**MuscleScience** · 10-10-2017, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

nice to see you around.... your are a very valuable asset to this board and anytime I see you post on a thread I open it because I know I'm going to learn something no matter what the subject...rock on with your badass self...

Co-signed...

**marcus300** · 10-10-2017, 09:16 PM

I'd rather go fishing.
Buy some will power its alot safer

**Obs** · 10-10-2017, 10:43 PM

Cocaine is a much safer alternative.

NO REC DRUG TALK GODDAMMIT POWERSTROKE !!!

**kevin56656** · 10-11-2017, 03:39 PM

lol, assuming i have no will power is rather bad :/ seeing as it takes a lot of will power to even get out of bed when you are on dnp . but i respect everyone's opinion, however. dnp is NOT as lethal as you guys make it out to be. YES there have been deaths. why? because they were stupid and were not prepared/ dosed too high. Yes dnp does build up, i take into account the 36 Hr half life of dnp when adminestering a daily dosage so i calculate the highest concentration there will be on my blood. If this concentration surpasses 1 gram, dnp can be a very deadly compound, at lower dosages however, the worse i have ever experience is sweating and constant heat.

**marcus300** · 10-12-2017, 12:49 AM

Yes it is lethal and very dangerous and to be taking something what you have no idea about is even more dangerous, its a poison and you don't need it there are safer better things out there to do the job than risk death and microwave your insides. Do you know what the LD is? that's lethal dose in humans and how much do you think your ugl is putting in your dnp ? this alone is playing Russian roulette with your life for some fat loss what you will gain back anyway. Learn the risks and learn whats best for the job in hand.
I don't recommend dnp and it looks like everyone else doesn't either maybe we are right and you are wrong!! imho please stop using it.

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