Cholesterol Management

**KurtMiles** · 11-03-2017, 08:35 PM

I have seen this thread lightly touched on in several spots, but there doesn't seem to be much interest or a whole lot of dialogue on it. And I understand it: I didn't give a flying flip about cholesterol until I happened to get my checked during a routine exam and it was pretty high, at least it seems like it.

For some back story, I'm 6'0 about 220, probably around 18-20% BF. That's a little higher than I'd like, but I am in the sixth or seventh week of weekly 500mg Test C and 50mg per day Dianabol , as well as .25mg ADex EOD, which I have read suppresses HDL. I am taking fish oil and NAC, and my diet is fairly clean. I eat a shit load of fiber, because I like how regular it keeps me.

My HDL was 15, LDL was 239.

My question to you AAS vets (3rd cycle for me) is how high is this, really, and what are my management options, outside of RX statins? Is there anything else I could be doing to manage this, orate those levels nothing to be too concerned about and just monitor it when I come off cycle to ensure it returns to more normal levels? Is this just a cost of doing business?

Looking forward to hearing your opinions.

**henryjames** · 11-03-2017, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by KurtMiles

I have seen this thread lightly touched on in several spots, but there doesn't seem to be much interest or a whole lot of dialogue on it. And I understand it: I didn't give a flying flip about cholesterol until I happened to get my checked during a routine exam and it was pretty high, at least it seems like it.

For some back story, I'm 6'0 about 220, probably around 18-20% BF. That's a little higher than I'd like, but I am in the sixth or seventh week of weekly 500mg Test C and 50mg per day Dianabol , as well as .25mg ADex EOD, which I have read suppresses HDL. I am taking fish oil and NAC, and my diet is fairly clean. I eat a shit load of fiber, because I like how regular it keeps me.

My HDL was 15, LDL was 239.

My question to you AAS vets (3rd cycle for me) is how high is this, really, and what are my management options, outside of RX statins? Is there anything else I could be doing to manage this, orate those levels nothing to be too concerned about and just monitor it when I come off cycle to ensure it returns to more normal levels? Is this just a cost of doing business?

Looking forward to hearing your opinions.

Add Niacin into your regimen. Great OTC medication to increase HDL levels.

**kelkel** · 11-04-2017, 11:25 AM

If your HDL is down to 15 now then in reality it was probably low (just not that low) before the cycle as well. Good advice from henry above but be sure to make it Slo-Niacin for best results. You may find this thread of interest as well:

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...xperiment.html

Using Niacin to Improve Cardiovascular Health | Life Extension

**KurtMiles** · 11-05-2017, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

If your HDL is down to 15 now then in reality it was probably low (just not that low) before the cycle as well. Good advice from henry above but be sure to make it Slo-Niacin for best results. You may find this thread of interest as well:

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...xperiment.html

Using Niacin to Improve Cardiovascular Health | Life Extension

Thanks brother. I'm thinking once I come off the DBol in the next few days and add in some niacin, it should get a bit better. I'm getting my mid-cycle bloods done next week as far as T levels go, I'll probably recheck lipids in a few weeks too.

**kelkel** · 11-06-2017, 09:58 AM

I'd suggest Fish Oil as well Kurt.

**petemitchell30** · 11-06-2017, 08:05 PM

I believe that any oral or tren will put your cholesterol in the toilet...at least it does mine. I can mitigate the damage somewhat with sloNiacin and fish oil, but even then my cholesterol is not good.

I tried red yeast rice, but it (I can't remember exactly what is in it that makes it act like, or even if it actually contains a statin) made me feel as if I had the flu so I discontinued it.

I'm to the point now where I just stay away from orals and tren.

**charger69** · 11-07-2017, 08:10 PM

How much fish oil are you taking?

**GearHeaded** · 11-11-2017, 03:36 PM

your first concern was that your total cholesterol is too high (yes anabolics will lower your good HDL cholesterol).. if your really worried about high cholesterol impacting your health negatively , then you need to go back for blood work and request a cholesterol particle size test . particle size and type is the real determining factor on wither your high cholesterol will negatively effect you or contribute to heart disease . this will ease your mind or tell you you have a real concern . best to know for sure so go get the test.

on a side note , a ketogenic diet has been shown to positively effect cholesterol in many people and lower inflammation. If your doc does the new test and thinks you have real problems and wants to put you on statins, then try Keto for 5 weeks first