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[Cman5811]

cialis doesn't increase libido , it increases blood flow by relaxing blood vessels . I doubt you have a problem with blood flow or stiff blood vessels at your age.

libido will come back soon enough once your natty test production gets up and running

You think after using my AI for 2 weeks it’ll come back somewhat? Is the clomid and nolva gonna help bring it back or does it make it worse?

[GearHeaded]

You think after using my AI for 2 weeks it’ll come back somewhat? Is the clomid and nolva gonna help bring it back or does it make it worse?

you likely have two separate issues going on right now that have caused this problem from running test and dbol with no AI

1. - Your estrogen is very elevated and that is causing a host of problems, one of which is effect on libidio (high estrogen is also keeping your natural production of test shut down.

2. - your HPTA is shut down because you were on AAS which suppress your HPTA, so having a suppressed HPTA your body is not producing testosterone and this will directly effect libido .

being you have these two issues you need to hit them both and from both angles.. thats why Obspowerstroke gave you a two fold process to follow to take care of the issues.
get the estrogen down with an AI for two weeks to solve the estrogen issue
get on PCT (clomid and nolva) to help restart your HPTA

[Cman5811]

you likely have two separate issues going on right now that have caused this problem from running test and dbol with no AI

1. - Your estrogen is very elevated and that is causing a host of problems, one of which is effect on libidio (high estrogen is also keeping your natural production of test shut down.

2. - your HPTA is shut down because you were on AAS which suppress your HPTA, so having a suppressed HPTA your body is not producing testosterone and this will directly effect libido .

being you have these two issues you need to hit them both and from both angles.. thats why Obspowerstroke gave you a two fold process to follow to take care of the issues.
get the estrogen down with an AI for two weeks to solve the estrogen issue
get on PCT (clomid and nolva) to help restart your HPTA

Awesome thank you so much.
I was with my girl and my dick wouldn’t get fully erect so we couldn’t have sex. So is that a Libdo problem then I’m assuming?

[GearHeaded]

Awesome thank you so much.
I was with my girl and my dick wouldn’t get fully erect so we couldn’t have sex. So is that a Libdo problem then I’m assuming?

sure thing . yeah at your age its not going to be a blood flow issue, its hard to function when your testosterone is crashed, add on top of that elevated estrogen and your in a world of hurt . but you'll bounce back in no time

[Cman5811]

sure thing . yeah at your age its not going to be a blood flow issue, its hard to function when your testosterone is crashed, add on top of that elevated estrogen and your in a world of hurt . but you'll bounce back in no time

Does the fact I only did 2 weeks of 250 and 1 week of 500 going to make me bounce back faster since it wasn’t like a whole 10 week cycle will I come
Back faster from it?

[GearHeaded]

Does the fact I only did 2 weeks of 250 and 1 week of 500 going to make me bounce back faster since it wasn’t like a whole 10 week cycle will I come
Back faster from it?

yes you will bounce back faster having not been on for that long, but in my opinion it was blasting the D-bol that really did you in and blew up your estrogen, and with that super high estrogen you got shut down even harder.

[Cman5811]

sure thing . yeah at your age its not going to be a blood flow issue, its hard to function when your testosterone is crashed, add on top of that elevated estrogen and your in a world of hurt . but you'll bounce back in no time

I also have like 30 caps left of alpha test which was a test booster from GNC I got awhile ago.. would taking that do anything to speed up the process?

[GearHeaded]

I also have like 30 caps left of alpha test which was a test booster from GNC I got awhile ago.. would taking that do anything to speed up the process?

I'm not familiar with that product so cannot tell you for sure. you already have it, it may not hurt and it might help (things like zinc, magnesium , and some herbs probably found in there may be beneficial for health anyways ).

so won't hurt to take it , but not sure it will actually do anything for turning back on the HPTA or lowering estrogen.

[Cman5811]

I'm not familiar with that product so cannot tell you for sure. you already have it, it may not hurt and it might help (things like zinc, magnesium , and some herbs probably found in there may be beneficial for health anyways ).

so won't hurt to take it , but not sure it will actually do anything for turning back on the HPTA or lowering estrogen.

Also another question. So when my buddy ordered me everything it came with dbol and the 2 AI dbol is red and the other 2 AI are clear and amber right! There was never any writing so idk what could have happened

[Cman5811]

you likely have two separate issues going on right now that have caused this problem from running test and dbol with no AI

1. - Your estrogen is very elevated and that is causing a host of problems, one of which is effect on libidio (high estrogen is also keeping your natural production of test shut down.

2. - your HPTA is shut down because you were on AAS which suppress your HPTA, so having a suppressed HPTA your body is not producing testosterone and this will directly effect libido .

being you have these two issues you need to hit them both and from both angles.. thats why Obspowerstroke gave you a two fold process to follow to take care of the issues.
get the estrogen down with an AI for two weeks to solve the estrogen issue
get on PCT (clomid and nolva) to help restart your HPTA

I think it may be the opposite. I feel like my estrogen maybe has crashed? Would I still do the .25of adex?

[GearHeaded]

I think it may be the opposite. I feel like my estrogen maybe has crashed? Would I still do the .25of adex?

crashed estrogen side effects are nearly identical with excessive estrogen (minus the bloat, plus add in joint pain).
It would be very difficult to crash your E2 if you were running test along with D-bol (d-bol aromatizes a ton) and were not taking much of an AI.

unless your saying you mixed up your D-bol and AI pills and didn't know which was which ??

[Cman5811]

crashed estrogen side effects are nearly identical with excessive estrogen (minus the bloat, plus add in joint pain).
It would be very difficult to crash your E2 if you were running test along with D-bol (d-bol aromatizes a ton) and were not taking much of an AI.

unless your saying you mixed up your D-bol and AI pills and didn't know which was which ??

I really do believe it is crashed estro because i had no side effect of high estro but low my sex drive is lowered idk how it crashed maybe not taking AI. I don’t believe it mixed anything up I should be fine. Should I confuse the armidex every other day at .25mg?

[Cman5811]

Because I just remember taking test e and dbol , and only minimal doses of ai, but I’d my estro was high I’d have puffy nips or other things?

[Obs]

Because I just remember taking test e and dbol, and only minimal doses of ai, but I’d my estro was high I’d have puffy nips or other things?

Not necessarily. Everyone is different. With the coumpounds you were taking you didnt crash your estrogen unless you took a very large dose of AI.
Taking test and dbol and it not aromatizing into estrogen
Would be like drinking water that didn't hydrate.

Did you take anything besides what you have said?
I can just about guarantee your issue is elevated estrogen.

[Cman5811]

Not necessarily. Everyone is different. With the coumpounds you were taking you didnt crash your estrogen unless you took a very large dose of AI.
Taking test and dbol and it not aromatizing into estrogen
Would be like drinking water that didn't hydrate.

Did you take anything besides what you have said?
I can just about guarantee your issue is elevated estrogen.

What’s a very large dose? So I believe I took aromisin 4-5 times probably .75ml and I think I do adex the first time though because I got caught up in exitment and confused about the bottles which I took I think 1ml-1mg of adex. Other than that it was literally test 3 weeks and dbol
Everyday. My buddy said maybe I needed more test because my dbol doseage was different maybe? So in all you think I should just stick to arimdex for 2 weeks .25mg eod still? I just don’t get how my estrogen levels get high from test and dbol. Without having side effects besides Libdo. I appreciate you’re patience and help. Young kid just trying to get his pp back in action

[kelkel]

Many make the mistake of thinking AI is only to prevent gyno. High estrogen can cause nearly any symptom of low T. Depression, loss of libido, ed, moodiness, irritabilty, sensitivity to ol' yeller gettin' shot, and sewing with your grandmother.

also how long do you think itll be to have sex again?

I would recommend some form of sexual activity as often as you can.

Cman if I were you I'd either move or at least lock your doors as there's no doubt in my mind Obs is already in route to your house to personally help you out with the sex issue.

[Obs]

Cman if I were you I'd either move or at least lock your doors as there's no doubt in my mind Obs is already in route to your house to personally help you out with the sex issue.

None for me thanks... I am "sewing" with his grandmother, it's like threading a needle.

[Obs]

What’s a very large dose? So I believe I took aromisin 4-5 times probably .75ml and I think I do adex the first time though because I got caught up in exitment and confused about the bottles which I took I think 1ml-1mg of adex. Other than that it was literally test 3 weeks and dbol
Everyday. My buddy said maybe I needed more test because my dbol doseage was different maybe? So in all you think I should just stick to arimdex for 2 weeks .25mg eod still? I just don’t get how my estrogen levels get high from test and dbol. Without having side effects besides Libdo. I appreciate you’re patience and help. Young kid just trying to get his pp back in action

The purpose of running tha Arimidex for two weeks was to let the AAS finish its deeds in your system and give you a chance to get your estrogen in check before PCT.

Pct is postponed until 2-3 weeks after the last injection/dose depending on what you are running.
The purposecis so that the AAS can leave your system. Being on PCT directly after using AAS would totally cancel out the point of PCT, which is to return to a normal hormonal level and reastart your shutdown system.

One thing I have learned about ED is once you get that "Oh shit what if I can't get it up!?", thought into your head...
You probably won't be getting it up.

You will return to normal soon and probably the majority of your issue is mental. Bloodwork would be wise.

[Obs]

Also .75 mg is a large dose but how often did you take that and for how long?

[Cman5811]

Also .75 mg is a large dose but how often did you take that and for how long?

I took it at the dose one time, MAX two. I’m positive almost one tho, it was first 2 days of cycle. Anyways I’ve kinda already felt my sex drive come
Back, more blood flow to the penis as I’m getting hornier i believe. So I will know now why 2 weeks to start pct I’m gonna continue adex I believe just to get to get my retro in check

[Obs]

I took it at the dose one time, MAX two. I’m positive almost one tho, it was first 2 days of cycle. Anyways I’ve kinda already felt my sex drive come
Back, more blood flow to the penis as I’m getting hornier i believe. So I will know now why 2 weeks to start pct I’m gonna continue adex I believe just to get to get my retro in check

Its high estrogen if anything.

[Cman5811]

Its high estrogen if anything.

I think it’s a mix of mental and high est, I mean mentally I’m horny af so I’ll be fine. You just recommend the .25mg of arimdex then and 2 weeks pct after. Thanks for being so chill with me and all. Getting my test blood work back today too

[Couchlock]

I bet your wishing you'd have listened to this boards initial advice given, huh?

[Obs]

I think it’s a mix of mental and high est, I mean mentally I’m horny af so I’ll be fine. You just recommend the .25mg of arimdex then and 2 weeks pct after. Thanks for being so chill with me and all. Getting my test blood work back today too

No prob.

[Cman5811]

No prob.

Hey man, so had sex last night woo, anyways continuing the .25mg of arimdex, gonna get my test and free test levels back too

[Obs]

Hey man, so had sex last night woo, anyways continuing the .25mg of arimdex, gonna get my test and free test levels back too

Good to hear

[GearHeaded]

Hey man, so had sex last night woo,

was she hot ! and if so do you have before and after videos to prove that this actually happened so that we can better help you in the long run

[Cman5811]

was she hot ! and if so do you have before and after videos to prove that this actually happened so that we can better help you in the long run

haha oh ya she my babe, anyways i took me AI last night before bed, today we went at it again and it didnt happen. Couldnt really get it up. Like why would that happen? I took .25mg of Arimdex and im a bit confused now.

[Cman5811]

Good to hear

haha oh ya she my babe, anyways i took me AI last night before bed, today we went at it again and it didnt happen. Couldnt really get it up. Like why would that happen? I took .25mg of Arimdex and im a bit confused now.

[Obs]

haha oh ya she my babe, anyways i took me AI last night before bed, today we went at it again and it didnt happen. Couldnt really get it up. Like why would that happen? I took .25mg of Arimdex and im a bit confused now.

Mental.
Once you worry you are done.
Give it a couple weeks for the compounds to leave your system and you will be ok when you start pct. After pct the same issue could arise again, don't worry within a couple months you will probably be fine.

[Cman5811]

Mental.
Once you worry you are done.
Give it a couple weeks for the compounds to leave your system and you will be ok when you start pct. After pct the same issue could arise again, don't worry within a couple months you will probably be fine.

do you think i should up the doseage in my arimex? i completely agree i was a rock tonight and then randomly went soft I know libdo is shot sometimes i mean cuz thats just part of it. Would you say to stay at the .25 for now? would increasing it do anything?

[Obs]

do you think i should up the doseage in my arimex? i completely agree i was a rock tonight and then randomly went soft I know libdo is shot sometimes i mean cuz thats just part of it. Would you say to stay at the .25 for now? would increasing it do anything?

Do not increase it. You need bloodwork but if you dont get it then stick to .25 mg.
I had it take six monts after pct (which I half assed) before I had libido at all, once upon a time.

You have knocked your hormones for a loop and following the protocol I gave you will give you the best results you can get without bloods. It takes time for the body to return to stasis. Be patient, good luck again.

[Cman5811]

Do not increase it. You need bloodwork but if you dont get it then stick to .25 mg.
I had it take six monts after pct (which I half assed) before I had libido at all, once upon a time.

You have knocked your hormones for a loop and following the protocol I gave you will give you the best results you can get without bloods. It takes time for the body to return to stasis. Be patient, good luck again.

Okay will do! my only question is im still a bit confused on how my estro was too high when i was taking dbol and test? Like how does that make my estro high?

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Okay will do! my only question is im still a bit confused on how my estro was too high when i was taking dbol and test? Like how does that make my estro high?

your body converts some of testosterone and dbol into estrogen.