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    Lipid is offline Junior Member
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    coming off..

    Hi Guys.

    Will get straight to it.

    Currently 24 years old, been blast cruising for 4 years, i did use HCG throughout but not the whole time....50-60% and ive also came off entirely 2x with pct and felt fine i believe within that timeframe so its not continuous 4 years use...due to just a change of heart figured id come off and stay off for good before its too late... given my age of 24 do i have a good chance? Never used deca .

    Last shot of 100mg test was 4 weeks ago...been on 200mg test since jan 2018, last blast was end of 2017.

    Plan..
    HCG 1 - 8 500IU Tues/Thurs/Sat
    Wait 5 days
    Clomid 8 - 12 50/50/25/25
    Nolva 8 - 12 20/20/20/20

    What are my chances on recovery?

    Took my first shot of HCG today 500iu
    Currently no libido issues 4 weeks since last 100mg shot...which is good news...mentally im in the shitter though.
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    HCG is surpressive. You shouldn't be using it as part of your PCT.

    Everybody is different, it's not like we can plug your information into a math equation and spit out a percentage chance of recovery. Only bloodwork and overall well being after PCT will tell you the answer. If I had to take an educated guess. 4 years of being shut down is an extremely low chance of recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    HCG is surpressive. You shouldn't be using it as part of your PCT.

    Everybody is different, it's not like we can plug your information into a math equation and spit out a percentage chance of recovery. Only bloodwork and overall well being after PCT will tell you the answer. If I had to take an educated guess. 4 years of being shut down is an extremely low chance of recovery.
    the pct is clomid/nolva HCG is just the prep the balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lipid View Post
    the pct is clomid/nolva HCG is just the prep the balls.
    HCG should not be used unless its on cycle or part of a TRT protocol.

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    You could blast the HCG 1000-2500ius eod for 16 days and then get some bloodwork to try and work out if you have have primary hypogonadism.

    If you don’t want to get the bloodwork you can go straight into your SERMS instead

    Clomid 50mg twice a day for 30 days
    Nolva 20mg per day for 45 days

    8 weeks after the end of PCT definitely get some bloodwork

    Search Michael Scallys current PCT protocol it may have changed from the above.
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    A strong pct "should" get u back 2 "normal"

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    After 4 years on, you'll probably need a lot more than 4 weeks of PCT, and you might have to start off at higher doses

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