11 months later - Proving all the haters wrong.... Like I KNEW

[Jangles1]

Exactly.

He doesn't need all that gear to grow.

I support jangles, just I'm saying not many people need all the gear

I will take this into consideration 100 %


The cut I am going to do


Prop 75mg eod
Tren 50mg eod
Mast 150mg eod


That with a solid diet and the clen should be fine and cuts down the ML a fair bit.

[Jangles1]

6. I’m 206

What would your choice cycle be now for a mass bulk then?

You’re obviously seasoned and I would be curious to know what compounds and dose you would go for as well as cycle length.

I think I do get caught in the mind trap that more = more and forget about diminishing returns.

[Jangles1]

What ancillaries are you running with your cycle?

Keep up the good work.

0.5mg Adex on Monday and Thursday
0.5mg Caber on Tuesday and Saturday
hCH 500iu twice a week
RP Liver Support


I’ve done 3 weeks without nothing and found no difference at all, but to be cautious and as I had the meds already I stuck to the protocol.

Honestly, I feel I am rather lucky as I barely get AAS sides.

[Capebuffalo]

What would your choice cycle be now for a mass bulk then?

You’re obviously seasoned and I would be curious to know what compounds and dose you would go for as well as cycle length.

I think I do get caught in the mind trap that more = more and forget about diminishing returns.

Honestly...
2nd cycle I’d run 500mg of Test a week. Kick start it with dbol . Eat like there’s no tomorrow. Train hard and get good rest. You grow during rest. Grow into your dose. Not the opposite. You are not ready for multiple compounds at high doses.

Your diet is what needs your attention.

[AR's King Silabolin]

What would your choice cycle be now for a mass bulk then?

You’re obviously seasoned and I would be curious to know what compounds and dose you would go for as well as cycle length.

I think I do get caught in the mind trap that more = more and forget about diminishing returns.

Remember, the most anabolic compounds are the ones ull find in the grocerystores.

[diesel101]

6. I’m 206

Wow fatty

[Kay kay]

You are doing well.

Start hitting 45° incline db press. Squeeze dont push

You saying squeeze donÂ’t push just made something click in my head. I have good size ,currently just over 220 at 13/14% bf but my chest has always been a bit of a weak point, and that tip you just gave I think will really help me. Thanks OBS

[Kay kay]

I’d suggest 500 test and 400 deca especially because you aren’t worried about shutdown since your blasting and cruising

[charger69]

Honestly...
2nd cycle I’d run 500mg of Test a week. Kick start it with dbol . Eat like there’s no tomorrow. Train hard and get good rest. You grow during rest. Grow into your dose. Not the opposite. You are not ready for multiple compounds at high doses.

Your diet is what needs your attention.

I agree with Cape. My philosophy is you need to first grow out of your dosage. Someone mentioned pre iously that at this rate you would have an ungodly amount your third cycle.
Your second cycle is more than I am using now on my bulk cycle.
I also need to make the comment, and I believe that at some point, someone has made it.... you want to cruise, but this may limit your ability to have kids in the future and you may be setting yourself up for TRT at an early age. The decision is yours, but I just want to remind you that there may be no turning back at some point.

BTW- nice progress. You could still go through PCT and keep your progress with the correct diet. You can see what my opinion is on which way you should go. Weigh the benefits of each and then make a decision.


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[Couchlockd]

I will add this piece of advice.

You got decca in you now.

Tren coming up next.

In all likelihood you'll need trt. Not down the road, but after stopping cycle.

Do this. After this blast. Switch over to test prop ED @ 25 mg. Schedule you a doctor appointment, get a referral to an Endo. 2-3 weeks before your appointment, stop the test cold turkey.

Give him the bloods after 2-3 "sober" (for lack of a better word) and get a script for test.

This will help in many ways. 1, you'll be legal, and have regular blood work to help you out

2) if any thing were to ever happen to you regarding the law, getting locked up for a few weeks or whatever (not saying your a criminal, but things happen beyond our control) you won't be able to ask Johnny law to go get your test from home. If you have a legal prescription, then you can receive test while in custody.

Again just trying to cover your bases.

[Quester]

The conservative advice that is given on this site is appropriate in that it follows medical advice and leads to the most healthful gains by the greatest number of people.
However, each of us is an individual and shouldn't take offense when someone is giving advice not tailored to our outlook doesn't mean that it is correct to judge others poorly for deviating from the established protocols in their own specific cycle.

Truly good Job Jangles but just because you had success in following your own plan doesn't prove anyone else was wrong for providing the advice you received nor that the advice itself was wrong.

[< <Samson> >]

I agree with all of the "grow into" comments

But, how often do we follow -


I know I didn't


Yet, it's so unnecessary to run these mega cycles - it's def duration over high dosing

[Jangles1]

Yeah I am taking the advice 100% in terms of less is more.

I may well just come off after this 12 weeks (4 weeks left) then and then do a 16 week bulk/cut cycle in March.

I do not want to do TRT as I am 31 and in England Doctors do not know about it. You need to go to a specialist to be tested 2/3 times and then a doctor every week to be injected. It is not as acceptable as in the states...

[GearHeaded]

I do not want to do TRT as I am 31 and in England Doctors do not know about it. You need to go to a specialist to be tested 2/3 times and then a doctor every week to be injected. It is not as acceptable as in the states...

your already injecting exogenous hormones and pulling your blood work . not sure what you'd need a doctor for anyway

[Jangles1]

your already injecting exogenous hormones and pulling your blood work . not sure what you'd need a doctor for anyway

Regardless I don't fancy TRT at 31.

I will have a think. Looking into Doctor Skulls Super PCT, it seems to be successful for people that are on for well over a year. But it is a risk.

I will finish the next 4 weeks, have a think, go from there and come back here next summer and update you all!

[Couchlockd]

Yeah I am taking the advice 100% in terms of less is more.

I may well just come off after this 12 weeks (4 weeks left) then and then do a 16 week bulk/cut cycle in March.

I do not want to do TRT as I am 31 and in England Doctors do not know about it. You need to go to a specialist to be tested 2/3 times and then a doctor every week to be injected. It is not as acceptable as in the states...

I was thinking this Bulk and Cut. I know a lot say never bulk and cut, but there are some in the famous Anabolics book, so I feel it would not be much of an issue.



Week 1-8 Bulk

1-8 - Anadrol 50mg ED (dBol never really did much for me tbh, even at 70mg a day)
1-8 - Test P 150mg EOD

Week 8 - 16

1-8 Test P 100mg EOD
1-8 Mast P 150mg EOD
1-8 Tren A 75mg EOD

Do 1 think great or two things half cooked.

You don't look like you need to cut. Hd stick to mire traditional cycles firvthe first few times.

You sure about adrol? It seems that your willing to toss all and everything into you without much thought.

Again I could be wrong , but I'd try more traditional cycles the first few times

[Jangles1]

I just wanted to try Drol as Dbol didn't really do much. Reading various studies show it can be super effective when utilised right.

It is all up in the air anyway. I need to focus on the next 4 weeks and I will go from there !

[< <Samson> >]

Anadrol is nasty shit, but it does work - every Anadrol cycle that I finished I grew a few Lbs. of LBM

[Proteinshake2]

Brah, that's not a transformation ... This is a transformation.
8-month gap between the two photos ... and he claims to be natty ...

[Jangles1]

Brah, that's not a transformation ... This is a transformation.
8-month gap between the two photos ... and he claims to be natty ...

haha thats bad ass. Fair play to him