Inject low volumes more often to reduce PIP?

**McGregor** · 10-25-2018, 01:26 PM

I can’t handle this anymore guys. The pain is intense and doesn’t let me sleep. I will run oral cycles only. Don’t buy Balkan pharmaceuticals. It’s garbage.

**Obs** · 10-25-2018, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by McGregor

I can’t handle this anymore guys. The pain is intense and doesn’t let me sleep. I will run oral cycles only. Don’t buy Balkan pharmaceuticals. It’s garbage.

Probably the dumbest post I have seen on this board. You are shooting pharma grade gear. Find a new hobby.

**McGregor** · 10-25-2018, 01:38 PM

LMAO! PHARMA GRADE? hahaha
It’s just a crappy underground lab. You don’t have to be so naive bro. Can’t I share my own experience or there is no free speech on this forum? Facts:
1 - I can’t walk, it hurts a lot
2 - I cannot sleep because of the extreme pip
3 - I cannot function properly, I miss workouts, i can’t go out with my girlfriend and my friends. Is this why we blast steroids ? To feel like shit?
I want to tell the new users to avoid this crap.

**Obs** · 10-25-2018, 01:38 PM

**McGregor** · 10-25-2018, 01:39 PM

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**Obs** · 10-25-2018, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by McGregor

LMAO! PHARMA GRADE? hahaha
It’s just a crappy underground lab. You don’t have to be so naive bro. Can’t I share my own experience or there is no free speech on this forum? Facts:
1 - I can’t walk, it hurts a lot
2 - I cannot sleep because of the extreme pip
3 - I cannot function properly, I miss workouts, i can’t go out with my girlfriend and my friends. Is this why we blast steroids ? To feel like shit?
I want to tell the new users to avoid this crap.

Yup its part of the game. There are hackers and non hackers. Some live for the pain and grow, others are on here complaining about their 500mg cycle causing all sorts of issues.

**Obs** · 10-25-2018, 01:41 PM

**McGregor** · 10-25-2018, 01:41 PM

What is the problem with not wanting to be hurt all day? Wow I’m speechless. You win bro you are a masochist. Have fun.

**Obs** · 10-25-2018, 01:43 PM

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**Obs** · 10-25-2018, 01:44 PM

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**Obs** · 10-25-2018, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by McGregor

What is the problem with not wanting to be hurt all day? Wow I’m speechless. You win bro you are a masochist. Have fun.

I have the testosterone levels of two angus bulls, masochist probably fits pretty good. If I have a choice between periggo or balkan I will choose balkan every time. Balkan made me and they are not some shitty ugl. They are exactly what they say on the label every time. It is also the only pharma grade tren you will find. They are the best. Shoot less in more groups.

Get ready to pin a dozen times per day. It wont be comfortable. Anyone shooting steroids for comfort needs to finfd something else. Get you some transdermal.

I am running shithouse ugl gear that has real pip in a concentrated blend. Any more than .2ml in any group locks it up. You adapt.

This is the real shit its not for everyone. You may be allergic to a carrier oil or possibly an ester. It is not BP's fault I assure you. I have shot the nastiest ugl shit in my ass with 16ga cattle needles I reused 20 times. I know pip.

**McGregor** · 10-25-2018, 02:10 PM

Okay bro I will try the less oil in more muscle groups. I hope it doesn’t hurt as much. But isn’t Tren illegal?

**GearHeaded** · 10-25-2018, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by McGregor

Okay bro I will try the less oil in more muscle groups. I hope it doesn’t hurt as much. But isn’t Tren illegal?

using testoerone without a doctors prescription is illegal . so is crossing the street without using a cross walk . so is (in most states) driving a black car on a Sunday.

**Obs** · 10-25-2018, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by McGregor

Okay bro I will try the less oil in more muscle groups. I hope it doesn’t hurt as much. But isn’t Tren illegal?

Tren hex is the only tren ever approved for human use. Other than BP all pharmaceutical companies discontinued it as far as I know.

I didn't mean to be a total dick and there is pip with me and BP propionate . Any propionate does not agree with me. I assure you though BP is not shit.
As far as black market roids go they are the best.
There is a reason it costs twice as much. Pip is part of it regardless of what you shoot if you go through enough gear.

Trust is a big thing. The only 100% guaranteed legit primo I can find is balkan. I would kill for some balkan deca right now.

**AlphaMindz** · 10-25-2018, 03:21 PM

I'm almost certain that your PIP is being caused by the way you're injecting and not the gear itself.

I used Balkan for years and never had an issue with them, aside from having orders seized because they're international so I went domestic to ensure I wouldn't lose anymore money on larger orders.

Try having someone do the injection for you. Someone who has a steady hand!

My girl will hit my tri's for me and is terrified of needles and faints at the site of blood lol. Now that's love! But I was impressed by how well she did on her very first time as I simply explained how to do it, and reassure her that it doesn't hurt while she's doing it (even if she's injecting on a nerve I'll just bite my tongue lol although now that she's done it a few times I can say "nope on a nerve babe try again!" and she'll replace and go back in, no sweat.

Try that and see if it makes a difference. I have a feeling it will as I've seen this many times before and often times it's not the gear but the way it's being injected.

**AlphaMindz** · 10-25-2018, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

Tren hex is the only tren ever approved for human use. Other than BP all pharmaceutical companies discontinued it as far as I know.

I didn't mean to be a total dick and there is pip with me and BP propionate . Any propionate does not agree with me. I assure you though BP is not shit.
As far as black market roids go they are the best.
There is a reason it costs twice as much. Pip is part of it regardless of what you shoot if you go through enough gear.

Trust is a big thing. The only 100% guaranteed legit primo I can find is balkan. I would kill for some balkan deca right now.

I wish they'd bring back Parabolan !

**Obs** · 10-25-2018, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaMindz

I wish they'd bring back Parabolan!

You can still get it. Saw some on dark web other day.
Valhalla

Torch it.

**McGregor** · 10-25-2018, 03:48 PM

Isn’t the high BA that is causing the pain? I remember using bunk Tren ace without pip. I was injecting 1.5 ml every day for a week straight without pain. I thought that i’ve Got lucky haha. Also boldenone didn’t hurt even after 5 ccs.

**AlphaMindz** · 10-25-2018, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

You can still get it. Saw some on dark web other day.
Valhalla

Torch it.

Good stuff man something to look into.

**AlphaMindz** · 10-25-2018, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by McGregor

Isn’t the high BA that is causing the pain? I remember using bunk Tren ace without pip. I was injecting 1.5 ml every day for a week straight without pain. I thought that i’ve Got lucky haha. Also boldenone didn’t hurt even after 5 ccs.

Yes could very well be the BA

**McGregor** · 10-26-2018, 07:59 AM

What should i do now? Inject less in more muscle groups more often?

**Capebuffalo** · 10-26-2018, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by McGregor

What should i do now? Inject less in more muscle groups more often?

I would use slin pins and inject everyday.

**McGregor** · 10-26-2018, 09:50 AM

Should i shoot something like 0.5 cc er even less ed?

**Capebuffalo** · 10-26-2018, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by McGregor

Should i shoot something like 0.5 cc er even less ed?

Whatever your total weekly amount is divide by 7. That’s the amount to pin Ed
Everyday will keep your levels even. No up and down.

**McGregor** · 10-26-2018, 10:25 AM

It sucks that my test is in amps not in a bottle.

**Capebuffalo** · 10-26-2018, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by McGregor

It sucks that my test is in amps not in a bottle.

Just preload your pins for 3-4 days. However it works out with the Amps.

**GearHeaded** · 10-26-2018, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by McGregor

It sucks that my test is in amps not in a bottle.

1 amp = 1cc
1 insulin pin = 1cc

just transfer your amps into slin pins. you'll have 1cc in the slin pins there waiting for you daily (or EOD or whatever).. I usually have about 10-15 or so slin pins filled with gear. that way I can just grab one (sometimes 2 or 3), pin, and be on my way in two mins.

**redz** · 10-26-2018, 11:43 AM

Some people must just be hypersensitive or maybe have a low threshold to irritation? I’m confused how this could be so bad maybe you are allergic to the carrier oil.

**McGregor** · 10-26-2018, 11:52 AM

I will have to inject less than 1 cc. 1 cc killed me lol wasn't fun at all. 2 cc destroyed me literally. It has been very painful month .. So i should fill half a cc in 2 syringes and let the one stay for a day?

**GearHeaded** · 10-26-2018, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by McGregor

I will have to inject less than 1 cc. 1 cc killed me lol wasn't fun at all. 2 cc destroyed me literally. It has been very painful month .. So i should fill half a cc in 2 syringes and let the one stay for a day?

heck at that low of an amount , you may want to just give sub q injections a try and see how those go.

I normally never recommend sub q injections, cause really the only reason we even have muscle is so we have somewhere to inject our steroids

**Capebuffalo** · 10-26-2018, 01:01 PM

Well bud I don’t know what to tell you. We’ve broken it down as good as it’s going to get. Pinning aas may not be fore you.

**AlphaMindz** · 10-26-2018, 02:57 PM

You can try doing what MACK did and cut your gear with grape seed oil. I've never heard of long estered test being this painful. I've had PIP like you're describing but not from test as in my case it was from poorly made winstrol .

I've had some PIP from test prop but it wasn't unbearable.

Try cutting your gear with another oil and running it under hot water before injecting as that may help you quite a bit, and next time try a different source as it doesn't sound like they're a good fit for you (although I can attest to the quality of BP but maybe the BA content is a bit high for you..)

**McGregor** · 10-26-2018, 02:59 PM

It used to be less painful before that (even 2 cc injections). I don't know what's happening but i'm going to try 0.5 cc in each cheek.

**McGregor** · 10-28-2018, 09:47 AM

It's been 4-5 days of intense pain. Walking hurts, sitting hurts and i can't even sleep. How much more is this torture going to last?

**Windex** · 10-28-2018, 09:19 PM

Has to be user error or a poor attempt at trolling.

**Obs** · 10-28-2018, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by McGregor

It's been 4-5 days of intense pain. Walking hurts, sitting hurts and i can't even sleep. How much more is this torture going to last?

Stop using it. Find something else to do with your free time.

**lattin1** · 10-29-2018, 05:10 AM

Switch to Test C. It's essentially the same thing as Test E minus the PIP.

**McGregor** · 10-29-2018, 06:23 AM

I’m feeling way better today. I’ve injected half a cc in my left ventroglute. I hope that the daily injections will help.
I’m not trolling guys, it’s never been like that. 4 cc didn’t hurt as much as 1-2 cc’s. I’m probably injecting my right side too much and it doesn’t heal in time.
Is it okay to preload my syringes? Because my test is in amps.

**Obs** · 10-29-2018, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by McGregor

I’m feeling way better today. I’ve injected half a cc in my left ventroglute. I hope that the daily injections will help.
I’m not trolling guys, it’s never been like that. 4 cc didn’t hurt as much as 1-2 cc’s. I’m probably injecting my right side too much and it doesn’t heal in time.
Is it okay to preload my syringes? Because my test is in amps.

Dont preload too many weeks in advance. I never go over three weeks.