Seeking advice from the guru's

**firechicken** · 05-10-2019, 10:31 PM

I have run a couple cycles before that were pretty simple to see how I would take and got great results. First was Test / Deca cycle, and second was a Test / Tren cycle. Both were within a about a year and I gained from 160 lbs (I am 6'3'' so I was crazy skinny) and topped out at 209 lbs with decently low BMI. My diet was also terrible, which I have no excuse for, but plan on doing it right this time. Here is the cycle I was thinking about running for 10-12 weeks.

GP Bold (EQ) 200 x 2/wk
Test Enth 200 / EQ 200 x 2/wk
Deca 250 x 2/wk
Aromasin for AI
Followed by PCT of Clo and Nolva

Any suggestions of additions or changes?

**fiddlesticks** · 05-10-2019, 11:14 PM

You dont need a "guru" to tell you that you desperately need to eat way more calories, that bodyweight for the height is way too low. wouldn't worry about any of that shit until that problem is fixed

**Couchlockd** · 05-10-2019, 11:15 PM

50lbs of muscle in a year?

That's damn good not eating right....

**fiddlesticks** · 05-10-2019, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

50lbs of muscle in a year?

That's damn good not eating right....

I just dont know why someone below 220 or so at that height would go on anything besides TRT for mental purposes tbh, the main limiting factor in results at that point has extremely little to do w drugs

**Family_guy** · 05-11-2019, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by firechicken

I have run a couple cycles before that were pretty simple to see how I would take and got great results. First was Test / Deca cycle, and second was a Test / Tren cycle. Both were within a about a year and I gained from 160 lbs (I am 6'3'' so I was crazy skinny) and topped out at 209 lbs with decently low BMI. My diet was also terrible, which I have no excuse for, but plan on doing it right this time. Here is the cycle I was thinking about running for 10-12 weeks.

GP Bold (EQ) 200 x 2/wk
Test Enth 200 / EQ 200 x 2/wk
Deca 250 x 2/wk
Aromasin for AI
Followed by PCT of Clo and Nolva

Any suggestions of additions or changes?

I’m confused as to what the first compound is. What does GP Bold(EQ) mean?

**Couchlockd** · 05-11-2019, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Family_guy

I’m confused as to what the first compound is. What does GP Bold(EQ) mean?

It's a brand 'geneza pharma"

**redz** · 05-11-2019, 01:31 AM

Your diet shouldn’t only be better on cycle. You don’t need all those compounds either.

**firechicken** · 05-11-2019, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

It's a brand 'geneza pharma"

Yessir you are correct. Used their stuff the first 2 cycles and haven't been disappointed.

**firechicken** · 05-11-2019, 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by redz

Your diet shouldn’t only be better on cycle. You don’t need all those compounds either.

I completely agree on the diet. I already know that is step 1. I might as well have left that out since everyone is focusing on it. I only added that in to illustrate the point that I had good results even with poor diet which means my body takes to compounds pretty well. Do you have a better suggestion of what to add or remove from the stack?

**Windex** · 05-11-2019, 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by firechicken

I completely agree on the diet. I already know that is step 1. I might as well have left that out since everyone is focusing on it. I only added that in to illustrate the point that I had good results even with poor diet which means my body takes to compounds pretty well. Do you have a better suggestion of what to add or remove from the stack?

Fix the diet then worry about drugs. Your first two cycles use two of the strongest anabolica (deca and tren ) then your third is going to use EQ. You shot yourself in the foot by using heavy drugs from the beginning.

Going from Tren to EQ is going to feel like selling a ferrari and then buying a walmart bicycle.

**firechicken** · 05-11-2019, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Windex

Fix the diet then worry about drugs. Your first two cycles use two of the strongest anabolica (deca and tren ) then your third is going to use EQ. You shot yourself in the foot by using heavy drugs from the beginning.

Going from Tren to EQ is going to feel like selling a ferrari and then buying a walmart bicycle.

Gotcha. I was just thinking I wanted to try something different. You think it would be best to go back to tren again and maybe stack something else with it?

**Windex** · 05-12-2019, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by firechicken

Gotcha. I was just thinking I wanted to try something different. You think it would be best to go back to tren again and maybe stack something else with it?

Whether or not you included the diet information is still the same because of your stats. 6'3 and 209 lbs means diet is the fundamental problem.

If you actually want too cycle properly this time then prove to yourself you can sustain a nutrition program without drugs for a period of time. After that, just run Test only or TRT + one mild compound.

You also don't have the experience level to bulk on tren to be honest. Trying to bulk with Tren as a novice user is like getting your drivers license then hopping in a Formula F1 car to learn how to drive.

**fiddlesticks** · 05-13-2019, 10:42 AM

Yeah man just worry about food till results slow down which honestly shouldn't be for a very long time. TRT is understandable for mental reasons but anything outside of that except maybe GHRP is just risking huge problems for literally nothing tbh