Finasteride - killing 2 birds

[i_SLAM_cougars]

Saw that terminology and instantly thought of this shirt. Cracks me up. Imagine the looks you'd get.....

Where can I buy this?

[kelkel]

Where can I buy this?

https://bobbymusclesapparel.com/

Follow him on IG and he'll usually post up when he's making more. Plus he's quite funny.

[Test Monsterone]

Actually there are some studies that show regrowth after about 6 months or so.

Hopefully on the head... I already have hair growing everywhere else!

[Chrisp83TRT]

Isn't using this counter productive ?

It would clash with using test.
I don't see a point using it.

I've been thinning since I was in my early 20's.


Life sucks ...

I don't know what you're running but if you are on trt, just go with the flow with accepting the hair loss.

With the acne , experiment with body washes.

With the prostate issue, there are ways to reduce that.

Cialis is basically side effect free and I'm sure there are plenty of natural ways to reduce it as well.

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[HoldMyBeer]

Isn't using this counter productive ?

It would clash with using test.
I don't see a point using it.

I've been thinning since I was in my early 20's.


Life sucks ...

I don't know what you're running but if you are on trt, just go with the flow with accepting the hair loss.

With the acne , experiment with body washes.

With the prostate issue, there are ways to reduce that.

Cialis is basically side effect free and I'm sure there are plenty of natural ways to reduce it as well.

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Crispy! What's going on brother? Haven't seen you around in a while.
To my knowledge, test converts into estrogen and dht
Just as an AI blocks the conversion to e2, Fina blocks the conversion to dht
So it doesn't interfere with how test works (in the manner we care about)

[Chrisp83TRT]

Crispy! What's going on brother? Haven't seen you around in a while.
To my knowledge, test converts into estrogen and dht
Just as an AI blocks the conversion to e2, Fina blocks the conversion to dht
So it doesn't interfere with how test works (in the manner we care about)

Hey hold !!!

Yeah life has been kind of a misery right now.. but I'm here.
Miss you guys .


Ahhh gotcha, i thought it interfered with allowing test to shine.

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[Test Monsterone]

Actually I heard the opposite just yesterday from an endo. She said DHT is the most potent/active form of testosterone in the body, so lowering it is like giving yourself low-t, as a natural. Maybe for us it's not so detrimental.

[GearHeaded]

Actually I heard the opposite just yesterday from an endo. She said DHT is the most potent/active form of testosterone in the body, so lowering it is like giving yourself low-t, as a natural. Maybe for us it's not so detrimental.

DHT is an extremely potent 'androgen' . thats what you need to keep in mind. DHT, unlike actual testosterone is NOT anabolic at all and cannot build muscle.. in fact muscle tissue has an enzyme called 3hsd which binds to DHT and renders it inactive in muscle tissue. wheres as Test itself will bind to androgen receptors and up-regulate protein synthesis (muscle building) and so can estrogen . DHT is utterly useless for muscle building and only effects androgen receptors in other tissues (like developing the male penis, facial hair growth etc.).

so when she says "potent" she means potent as an 'androgen' for masculizing effects , not potent for bodybuilding or muscle building effects.
keep. in mind Test is potent equally as both an anabolic as it is an androgen . dht is only the androgen


on a side note- the best way to raise your DHT , if thats what your interested in (I personally prefer mine low as most negative side effects I get while on cycle are DHT related and not estrogen related) is to lower SHBG. everyone thinks SHBG binds up free Test, which it does, but it mainly binds up DHT. if you take something like Proviron or even Var or Primo will lower your SHBG quite a bit and thus raise your DHT.


lots of guys mistakingly think that DHT derived drugs like Var or Winny or mast, are actual "DHTs" and thats why you get DHT based side effects from taking them . but this is not the case. these drugs are not DHT and are not acting as DHT in the body ,, rather whats happening is that these drugs are very potent at lowering SHBG . and DHT is bound up by SHBG and so when you lower it your have more free DHT available. . thats the DHT side effects guys feel when taking these drugs, its just lower SHBG allowing for more DHT in the body and its not the drug itself at all acting as DHT in the body

[GearHeaded]

Crispy! What's going on brother? Haven't seen you around in a while.
To my knowledge, test converts into estrogen and dht
Just as an AI blocks the conversion to e2, Fina blocks the conversion to dht
So it doesn't interfere with how test works (in the manner we care about)

just to expand on this a little further . I'm pretty sure DHT blockers like Fina are acting kind of like a SERM acts and are blocking DHT's conversion at actual receptor sites. so for eg, Fina is binding at hair follicle sites and then blocking DHT from being converted at that actual site and blocking it there.
dht is not quite like estrogen and being produced "remotely", test is being converted to DHT at actual receptor sites themselves.

thats my understanding but I may be wrong as its been a long time since reading up on DHT blockers . I tried them years ago in an attempt to help DHT related acne while on heavy cycles, but then found out that they don't block DHT in sebaceous glands anyhow so they are no good for that


but your right.. a DHT blocker should not negatively effect or interfere with Test itself

[kelkel]

but your right.. a DHT blocker should not negatively effect or interfere with Test itself

Correct. Test levels actually rise a bit when on Fina due to less conversion. Not to an amount that would inspire the use of Fina as an adjunct to a cycle, but it does rise nontheless. I've been on 5 mgs per day Fina for years now with zero issues for BPH. It's impressive when it comes to stopping DHT from rising, even on elevated doses of test. From memory I believe it's been tested up to 600 mgs. Yes, Cialis is a great first step but it's not always enough if you have an actual issue.

my .02

[Quester]

Hehe, I was expecting someone to reply with something like this. Almost all of those things you mentioned happen AFTER birth. So the baby wouldn't be affected. Miscarriage? Postpartum? Birth? C Section? I hardly believe doctors would inject a woman with someone else's blood for anemia... that doesn't make any sense. I'll take my chances. I have to lie about not being born in Eastern Europe in the 80's anyway, because of mad cow disease. Fuckin hell. If a pregnant woman gets in a car accident and requires a blood transfusion, chances are she lost the baby too.

You are a real piece of shit.

[HoldMyBeer]

You are a real piece of shit.

Yeah Q, this guys have been something else since he joined. I'm just waiting for him to really say the wrong thing so he will be banned and we don't have to listen to his shit anymore.

[Test Monsterone]

Really?? How have I been something else? What else have I said to make me such a piece of shit in your mind? Fuck off.

[powerliftmike]

Pregnant women require blood all the time...[examples]Antepartum Hemorrhage

Almost all of those things you mentioned happen AFTER birth. So the baby wouldn't be affected.

Antepartum literally means before birth..

Finasteride and dutasteride are both listed on the banned list for blood donations. I believe the lookback period is 6 months, but could be wrong about that. Technically, non-prescription use of AAS (due to HIV and hepatitis risks) are also banned though. If one uses only sterile needles this one is not much of deal to lie about, but the fina and dutasteride could lead to problems for the recipient.

Yes finaseride is designed to shrink the prostate, apparently via both atrophy and apoptosis. It is hard to believe any meaningful volume reduction would be seen in just a few days especially in the presence of supraphysiological dosages of testosterone . For immediate reduction of urethral side effects alpha blockers are the drugs of choice (e.g. Flomax, Rapaflo).

[buckeyefootball4]

I just ordered some generic finasteride 1mg. The primary goal is to prevent hair loss, and I hope it’s sufficient at that dose. The secondary goal(s) are to reduce DHT, acne, and prostate swelling. I really hope it helps with the back acne. Do any of you use finasteride and see the type of results I’m seeking?

Why would you ever take this shit.

[Test Monsterone]

Why would you ever take this shit.

[buckeyefootball4]

Not good.... Too many negatives...

[kelkel]

Yes finaseride is designed to shrink the prostate, apparently via both atrophy and apoptosis. It is hard to believe any meaningful volume reduction would be seen in just a few days especially in the presence of supraphysiological dosages of testosterone. For immediate reduction of urethral side effects alpha blockers are the drugs of choice (e.g. Flomax, Rapaflo).

I've always combined fina with doxazosin. Works well for me. Re BPH, not for hair loss. Care less about that hair.
You'd be suprised Mike about how well fina controls dht even at supraphysiological levels.
And it's good to see you around.

[kelkel]

Not good.... Too many negatives...

Why would you ever take this shit.

Until you get BPH. Then your thought process changes.

[powerliftmike]

I've always combined fina with doxazosin. Works well for me. Re BPH, not for hair loss. Care less about that hair.
You'd be suprised Mike about how well fina controls dht even at supraphysiological levels.
And it's good to see you around.

Ill look into this with my urologist next time I come in. Good to see you too.

I have had diagnoses of prostatitis and BPH in the past. Even before AAS use and I would have dietary triggers for prostatitis. I know it is hell.