Duchaine's "Steroid Bounce" Myth or Reality?

[Mike Dura]

Dan Duchaine, in his clasic underground book on steroids said that an individual on steroids gets a steroid bounce, that is, increased natural testosteronce produced, because the body becomes used to the extra androgens from the steroid cycle. This steroid bounce, in turn, helps one maintain muscle size after post cycle therapy . Yet, I've also heard that this is not the case. Is this true?

[Power Viking]

I dunno, but I feel more "juicy" even after cycles are long gone. By that I mean that some of the "feel good" feeling stays, some of the increased hornyness stays and shit like that.

[elite2kr]

No what happens is your body increases production of natural hormones till they are renormalised, then stops producing the excess.

[Mike Dura]

That's probably true but I would rather believe in the steroid bounce idea. What your saying suggests that keeping larger means eventually going back on cycles. Steroid bounce is a pretty idea. Killjoy!

No what happens is your body increases production of natural hormones till they are renormalised, then stops producing the excess.

[elite2kr]

That's probably true but I would rather believe in the steroid bounce idea. What your saying suggests that keeping larger means eventually going back on cycles. Steroid bounce is a pretty idea. Killjoy!

Ok lets say steriod bounce is true, cortisol will bounce as well. Cortisol works the opposite of testostrone and pulls protein from the muscle.
Once cortisol and other hormones like sbgh level off to meet testostreone. Equilibrium is achived and there is no more anabolic acvitivy if your on gear then if your not.

[Mike Dura]

Interesting. I'm in the process of learning more about AAS so for now you're talking beyond the scope of my learning. But as I try to follow your reasoning it seems unclear (but like I said, that may be due to my dearth of learning).

Ok lets say steriod bounce is true, cortisol will bounce as well. Cortisol works the opposite of testostrone and pulls protein from the muscle.
Once cortisol and other hormones like sbgh level off to meet testostreone. Equilibrium is achived and there is no more anabolic acvitivy if your on gear then if your not.

[Son Of Khadafi]

Interesting. I'm in the process of learning more about AAS so for now you're talking beyond the scope of my learning. But as I try to follow your reasoning it seems unclear (but like I said, that may be due to my dearth of learning).

Basically just take letro throughout the cycle and clen in PCT and both of those effects will be significantly lessened. And try not to workout longer than 45min-hr, b/c cortisol levels will get too high.

AAS blocks the cortisol from getting to the receptors while your on, but the excess build up and any you produce from then on will not be blocked when you come off them.

[Duke of Earl]

I think you've missed out a critical part which is that the ''steroid bounce'' may happen when you stop using certain steroids - like an overshoot effect.
The only steroid I've seen actual evidence for this happening with is Tbol (can't remember the source)

[JiGGaMaN]

I think you've missed out a critical part which is that the ''steroid bounce'' may happen when you stop using certain steroids - like an overshoot effect.
The only steroid I've seen actual evidence for this happening with is Tbol (can't remember the source)

it is my opinion that dan duchaine was all about justifying doing stupid shit. and him being dead and all only further helps my case on that one.

anyhow, i got a blood test about a week after using Tbol alone and my test was high/normal (this is with no pct, dont ask.)

[Drummerboy]

it makes sense that your body produces more androgen receptors while on. i dont buy into the fact that your body will produce more test as a result. IMO, your body (eventually) will try to get back to its desired state, homeostasis. Im no endocrinologist, but its an interesting theory.