any enduance athletes have clen experience?

[one8nine]

i need to drop 20 pounds over the next few monthes to make weight at 189, im around 14% so that wont be a problem but i was wondering about clen

will it destroy my enduance (is it worth it?)

[KAEW44]

My personal clen experience always left me very gassed when using it. It works wonders for cutting but it leaves u gasping for breath if u do hard cardio or compete in sports.

[westcoastbadboy]

KAEW44 is so right, clean is good for cutting weight, but leaves you out of breath while doing hard cardio. I would stick to something less hardcore but go on a good diet and hard cardio on the track and wind sprints etc...

[J.S.N.]

20 lbs over a few months is ridiculously easy to do just eat right.

[Hunter]

Well 189 so you must wrestle and dont forget they instated the new rule and will be doing hydration tests this year so I would drop down before you even start the season and 20 pounds over a few months is easy as hell. I would cut 10 pounds the day of a match sometimes so just eat clean and up your cardio

[zimmy]

clen RUINED my stamina while on it. And no mater how much water or suppliments i took... i got some bad cramping if i sparred more than an hour.

[Dr. Musclehead]

run more sprints and eat right

[zimmy]

sprints won't help much with dropping weight...more than likely just kill any muscle growth..follow cutting guidelines and you should be good.

[humungus88]

I do high intensity cardio, and didn't notice any difference while using 140mcg daily. although I would wait til after cardio to take it.

[one8nine]

run more sprints and eat right

when you wrestle...
you wrestle
you dont run
you dont jog
you dont swim
you dont play football
you wrestle
there is no shape like wrestling shape and nothing but wrestling can prepare you for wrestling

but by the way instead of going 185 this year im going 197 so i am on weight right now

[spencer]

i stopped using clen mate, it fuccked my stamina up big time and i was only on a low dosage.

[spencer]

when you wrestle...
you wrestle
you dont run
you dont jog
you dont swim
you dont play football
you wrestle
there is no shape like wrestling shape and nothing but wrestling can prepare you for wrestling

but by the way instead of going 185 this year im going 197 so i am on weight right now

how do u get fit then if u dont run or swin?? not being nobby with you , just wondering

[MMA]

when you wrestle...
you wrestle
you dont run
you dont jog
you dont swim
you dont play football
you wrestle
there is no shape like wrestling shape and nothing but wrestling can prepare you for wrestling

but by the way instead of going 185 this year im going 197 so i am on weight right now

so true. the fundamentals are so fundamental people forget them. they talk about sport specific exercises, but then talk about a windsprints similarity to explosive activity, instead of simply DOING your explosive activity.

[MMA]

i do all kinds of conditioning....when i can't get to a gym where i can wrestle or spar. but the best piece of training equipment is another human body.

[zimmy]

well said about the wrestling... in jiu jitsu we don't go as hard / fast allll the time like wrestlers do so we have to do alternative exercises so we have the explosiveness when we need it, but i totally agree about wrestlers.

[Minimart]

you can run jogg for so often and then start to sprint for so long and then jogg and sprint aging your not always going 100% and your not alway going half speed thats what i would do i dont just an idea and curit train with weight that work wonders. no joke

[one8nine]

how do u get fit then if u dont run or swin?? not being nobby with you , just wondering

wrestling will do 100x for you what runnign and swimming will do
when you run or swim, the only thing keeping you from winning is a clock

when you wrestle youre face to face with someone who wants the same thing you want and will do whatever he needs to be there, just the same as you, theres someone fighting against you, so in this case not only are you fighting with yourself (enduance wise not giving up keep going when youre tired) but also theres another man trying to make you give up and put you on your back

[one8nine]

you can run jogg for so often and then start to sprint for so long and then jogg and sprint aging your not always going 100% and your not alway going half speed thats what i would do i dont just an idea and curit train with weight that work wonders. no joke

wow thats a great way to train your legs
too bad you work every muscle in your body when you wrestle
that will help endurance though
but when you wrestle you get endurance plus work every muscle plus practice teqnique plus become tougher every day

[MMA]

one8nine nailed it - when you wrestle, you work every athletic attribute that wrestling requires - endurance, strength, speed, skill, explosiveness etc.

there are some other things that will help, but so many people in fightsports forget what the core of your training is about.

[zimmy]

lol...way to get off the original topic :P

[one8nine]

im not worrid about the original topic im going 197 not 185 now.. and im at 205 with 9% currently

[MMA]

lol...way to get off the original topic :P

don't argue with a wrestler, we never quit!

[sonar1234]

I am 34 and cant use ephedrine anymore it give me some colon pain IBS.

I tried clen this year and didnt like it at all, i guess that getting the heart palpitations this time around woke me up.

I threw the stuff away.